Intel Core "Kaby Lake" Desktop Processors First Wave Detailed

lanlagger · Aug 22, 2016

Move along, nothing to see here a"6" replaced with a "7" and if it overclocks less (as it was the case for 2011-3 "newest" release) then it is a little regression. If one has Sandy or newer and thinks about upgrade with this Kaby lake - then one should not use word "thinks", because thinking requires to gather data, process that and evaluate... and who just throws more money at intel for nothing - does not do either of those.

Prima.Vera · Aug 22, 2016

The Quim Reaper said:
..they'd come with more than 4 cores if they were targeted at enthusiasts you monopoly operating, price gouging douchebags.

Agreed!

LOL, in this rithm, I can keep my 3770K for another 5 years.

noname00 · Aug 22, 2016

lanlagger said:
Move along, nothing to see here a"6" replaced with a "7" and if it overclocks less (as it was the case for 2011-3 "newest" release) then it is a little regression. If one has Sandy or newer and thinks about upgrade with this Kaby lake - then one should not use word "thinks", because thinking requires to gather data, process that and evaluate... and who just throws more money at intel for nothing - does not do either of those.

There are a few more reasons to upgrade from a 2500k or above, most of them being IO related (M.2, USB3.1), other new features that someone might want. But if I had a 2500k, (or even a i5 750/760), I'm prety sure I would not upgrade CPU+motherboard.

Melvis · Aug 22, 2016

I wonder what temps these new chips will run at. One thing that always turns me off Intel chips is the amount of heat they produce. I am impressed at the 4.5GHz Turbo speed though on the 7700k, very nice!

zelnep · Aug 22, 2016

lanlagger said:
Move along, nothing to see here a"6" replaced with a "7" and if it overclocks less (as it was the case for 2011-3 "newest" release) then it is a little regression. If one has Sandy or newer and thinks about upgrade with this Kaby lake - then one should not use word "thinks", because thinking requires to gather data, process that and evaluate... and who just throws more money at intel for nothing - does not do either of those.

agree with this... only thing that made me upgrade my i7-860 to i7-6700K is m.2 nvme in z170 board (and usb 3.1 also did not hurt), but for cpu performance increase - fyou intel, I hope someone did steal my money (thaty I paid for i7-6700k) from your register and I hope the thief left invisible legos in the room!

Nobody99 · Aug 22, 2016

7th generation will have native H.265 10 bit decode which Skylake should already have, I mean what is the point of having iGPU if Intel doesn't ever update its capabilities for decoding which serves better old CPUs than new CPUs. Why do only new CPUs get new software improvements when the older ones are not EOL?

cdawall · Aug 22, 2016

They must be maxing out the process, look at that TDP walking up, Intel is back into the 95w game.

RejZoR · Aug 22, 2016

Intel will have to dramatically change the architecture. They are hiting the clock wall now, they can't up the clock anymore. Smaller processes won't make higher clocks more viable either. They could stack more cores, but considering how long they are dragging the quad core config, I find that VERY unlikely.

Nokiron · Aug 22, 2016

RejZoR said:
Intel will have to dramatically change the architecture. They are hiting the clock wall now, they can't up the clock anymore. Smaller processes won't make higher clocks more viable either. They could stack more cores, but considering how long they are dragging the quad core config, I find that VERY unlikely.

I think it will be a while before the cores starts coming. The first steps are probably more dedicated circuits and accelerators.

Parn · Aug 22, 2016

TheLostSwede said:
Let's see if we get Nvidia grade price gauging on these ones...

They've already been doing that ever since the launch of Skylake. I expect no difference with Kaby Lake at least until AMD officially launches Zen.

alexsubri · Aug 22, 2016

It's like a game of chess, AMD made their move and now Intel made theirs. Still feel like AMD has the upper hand in this scenario. More threads than cores, still not seeing anything evolutionary here on Intels part.

Zen has more cores and threads this time around. Hopefully it will live up to the hype. The stocks sure think so! :pimp:

No more wishful thinking

alucasa · Aug 22, 2016

Oh for ... fu's sake..., bring 6c/12t into mainstream already.

We really need Zen to be successful here. Intel is buttlicking us.

cdawall · Aug 22, 2016

alucasa said:
Oh for ... fu's sake..., bring 6c/12t into mainstream already.

We really need Zen to be successful here. Intel is buttlicking us.

What software uses 6/12? Most software developers still only uses 4 cores...

xorbe · Aug 22, 2016

Is it worth upgrading from 4790K@4.5 DDR3-2400, to a 7700K@4.5 with DDR4? I'm guessing it's not really worth the cost or hassle for a few extra fps in games.

alucasa · Aug 22, 2016

cdawall said:
What software uses 6/12? Most software developers still only uses 4 cores...

I use lots of rendering via Blender. Me no gamer.

cdawall · Aug 22, 2016

xorbe said:
Is it worth upgrading from 4790K@4.5 DDR3-2400, to a 7700K@4.5 with DDR4? I'm guessing it's not really worth the cost or hassle for a few extra fps in games.

Really depends what you are trying to do. Power consumption will be a decent gain.

alucasa said:
I use lots of rendering via Blender. Me no gamer.

X99 with a mainstream style board and 5820K/6800K is roughly the same pricing both of which are mainstream pricing.

alucasa · Aug 22, 2016

cdawall said:
X99 with a mainstream style board and 5820K/6800K is roughly the same pricing both of which are mainstream pricing.

Not in Canada. It costs around 350CAD more. But I am considering going into 5820k. Just waiting on some news on Zen before pulling trigger. I also have an option of going for either 2011-v1 + E5-2670 or X99 + ES 12c/24t for the price of 5820k + x99.

Just waiting on some reliable news on Zen before going for it.

cdawall · Aug 22, 2016

alucasa said:
Not in Canada. It costs around 350CAD more. But I am considering going into 5820k. Just waiting on some news on Zen before pulling trigger. I also have an option of going for either 2011-v1 + E-2670 or X99 + ES 12c/24t for the price of 5820k + x99.

Just waiting on some reliable news on Zen before going for it.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117559&cm_re=6700k-_-19-117-559-_-Product

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402&cm_re=5820k-_-19-117-402-_-Product

where is the 350CAD difference? Getting comparable decent boards are both in the $200CAD range.

thebluebumblebee · Aug 22, 2016

Isn't this a "backwards" announcement? Isn't the real news here that there will be 3 levels of motherboards? Imagine some of the simple and therefore cheap motherboards that we'll see, especially mITX.

alucasa · Aug 22, 2016

cdawall said:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117559&cm_re=6700k-_-19-117-559-_-Product

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402&cm_re=5820k-_-19-117-402-_-Product

where is the 350CAD difference? Getting comparable decent boards are both in the $200CAD range.

100 from CPU.

250 from Mobo. Google my mobo in system spec. It's a cheapass one. I am looking at X99 Asrock Extreme4 mATX. I don't want full ATX.

cdawall · Aug 22, 2016

alucasa said:
100 from CPU.

250 from Mobo. Google my mobo in system spec. It's a cheapass one. I am looking at X99 Asrock Extreme4 mATX. I don't want full ATX.

Ah so you are just comparing based on bargain bin 1151 stuff. Remember there are low watt Xeon 6 cores in the $300CAD range.

thebluebumblebee said:
Isn't this a "backwards" announcement? Isn't the real news here that there will be 3 levels of motherboards? Imagine some of the simple and therefore cheap motherboards that we'll see, especially mITX.

Not much different than what they do now on both AMD and intel. Can't exactly run the 9590 on the $30 760G motherboard they sell due to TDP. I imagine this will be similar, low end boards with 2-4 phase CPU power and high end with god knows how many.

alucasa · Aug 22, 2016

cdawall said:
Ah so you are just comparing based on bargain bin 1151 stuff. Remember there are low watt Xeon 6 cores in the $300CAD range.

Yeah, I don't OC due to using mini-itx and tight case and I don't use fancy high-end stuff to save money. The 350CAD difference was based on my current setup.

I can save 50 by choosing Gigabyte X99 but I avoid Killer NIC and I don't really trust EVGA mobo.

I am still considering my options and really hoping Zen hits the jackpot here, for my own sake instead of fanboy's.

And I need HT.

EarthDog · Aug 22, 2016

Caring1 said:
"Intel is planning to sub-classify LGA1151 into three categories, to ensure people don't try to install higher-powered CPUs on low-power machines."

Maybe AMD should have done this with 70% of their boards using FX processors... haha!

dj-electric · Aug 22, 2016

Yeah. Extremely high 220W, stupidly high 140W and horribly slow 95W.

cdawall · Aug 22, 2016

Dj-ElectriC said:
Yeah. Extremely high 220W, stupidly high 140W and horribly slow 95W.

Intel sounds like they are joining that game they do have that 165w quad core xeon...I would be curious what actual power draw is.

EarthDog said:
Maybe AMD should have done this with 70% of their boards using FX processors... haha!

They should have done it with 100% of their boards or just never released 220w parts.

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Intel Core "Kaby Lake" Desktop Processors First Wave Detailed

lanlagger

Prima.Vera

noname00

Melvis

zelnep

Nobody99

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

RejZoR

Nokiron

Parn

alexsubri

alucasa

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

xorbe

alucasa

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

alucasa

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

thebluebumblebee

alucasa

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

alucasa

EarthDog

dj-electric

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

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