Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

ViperXTR · Jul 20, 2016

Still on Windows 7. System is still running fine no issues but also now thinking of going Windows 10. Is it fine to just update or completely remove windows 7 and freshly install Windows 10? (Haven't formatted for a long time and it's a pain to set up everything again)

Toothless · Jul 20, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I think you'll find file transfer speeds are faster. That's one positive.

As a bonus you get to share all your personal info and habits with MS. LOL. Personally don't care tho.

I used that telemetry turnoff thingy that Mussels has. :roll:

Kursah · Jul 20, 2016

ViperXTR said:
Still on Windows 7. System is still running fine no issues but also now thinking of going Windows 10. Is it fine to just update or completely remove windows 7 and freshly install Windows 10? (Haven't formatted for a long time and it's a pain to set up everything again)

Sure you can just update, but I recommend doing a backup first.

Download Macrium Reflect Free, create an image of your current hard drive as-is onto a USB HDD for safe keeping, also create the bootable CD (to allow you to restore later on if you hate 10). Upgrade to 10.

You can also roll back from 10, but I've seen this fail a few times...though I've seen it work fine more times than not.

Or you can get a different HDD to test 10 and just use your current Win 7 product key to install 10 onto the drive as a fresh installation.

Octopuss · Jul 20, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I think you'll find file transfer speeds are faster. That's one positive.

As a bonus you get to share all your personal info and habits with MS. LOL. Personally don't care tho.

I saw an article few months ago somewhere where the person basically did a sort of a benchmark with various identical operations comparing Windows 7, 8.1 and 10, and with like one exception 10 was significantly slower than 7.

Mussels · Jul 20, 2016

at a recent LAN, we noticed from my 64GB USB 3 thumbdrive that all the win10 systems transferred files a lot faster. Win 7 was the slowest, most likely due to lack of integrated USB 3 drivers.

Nobody99 · Jul 20, 2016

Using registry keys for disabling and enabling updates is a really bad solution from Microsoft. Even Linux supports GUI for handling updates.

Frick · Jul 23, 2016

Nobody99 said:
Using registry keys for disabling and enabling updates is a really bad solution from Microsoft. Even Linux supports GUI for handling updates.

The "solution" is making every update automatic.

Anyway, can you activate a Windows 10 clean install with a Windows 7 OEM key?

EDIT: Indeed it does, I just mistook several B's with 8's. I blame my cold.

Frick · Jul 29, 2016

Ah, the settings for updates actually do change on their own. Other MS apps and sharing updates thing was turned on. That is actually quite annoying. I probably don't mind them being turned on by default, but at least notify me if you change settings for me, mkay?

Ahhzz · Aug 19, 2016

Woohoo!!! Windows 10 RULES!!!!!

...you.

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/08/19/windows-10-annoyance-system-apps/

You may have noticed that removed apps appear again on a device running Windows 10 after major updates.

P4-630 · Aug 19, 2016

Ahhzz said:
Woohoo!!! Windows 10 RULES!!!!!

...you.

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/08/19/windows-10-annoyance-system-apps/

You may have noticed that removed apps appear again on a device running Windows 10 after major updates.

Great!

I hope these annoying things won't be there anymore when I upgrade to 10 (in a couple of years)..... :ohwell:

rtwjunkie · Aug 19, 2016

P4-630 said:
Great!

I hope these annoying things won't be there anymore when I upgrade to 10 (in a couple of years).....

No, they will double and triple down on them. :laugh:

Ithanul · Aug 19, 2016

Yeah, I notice that on my lappy that I put W10 edu on. It is annoying as heck....only reason I have it on my lappy is for class work, and at least be familiar with it in case one of my relatives and friends have issue with that OS.

So far not many of them have W10 thankfully. Plus W7 going to be my Dad's last Window OS, he got pretty pissed off with Windows of late. He even dislike W7, and well when he saw W8.....that how I got my current free laptop from him (it had W8 on it previously).

Frick · Aug 20, 2016

1607 breaks webcams

(in short, the bit that connects to the webcam data no longer supports compressed formats, meaning that if Skype tries to use 1080p - which obviously would be way to much for USB2.0 uncompressed - the video freezes. And this information wasn't readily avaliable, that's the worst part)

You know how they restructured the company a while back? Their QA functions got outsourced to consumers. I understand why they want to have everyone on the same version, but for one: QA, and for two (as the article also says): just tell people what you're changing.

P4-630 · Aug 26, 2016

I'm still one of the 7.8%

https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

Drone · Aug 26, 2016

According to AdDuplex majority of W10 users are still on 1511 build and almost nobody cares about rs2 preview builds

P4-630 · Aug 26, 2016

So it seems we do get a new windows version afterall?
Since windows 10 EOL is in 2025....

Nobody99 · Aug 26, 2016

P4-630 said:
So it seems we do get a new windows version afterall?
Since windows 10 EOL is in 2025....

The version released in July 2015 will be obsolete in 2025, newer builds will always be supported. Although I have been asking myself as to how will Microsoft earn money if people won't buy new server editions.

TheinsanegamerN · Aug 26, 2016

I was a huge windows 10 supporter, then the anniversary update came out.

I used to be able to set updates to "update when I restart" but now must select a time. And I cant set "used time" to 24hrs. And they went and changed up the start menu yet again, AND broke my webcam and my family's webcam, so welcome to trying to troubleshoot webcams remotely. What a pain. Users are not, and should not be used as, QA testers.

So glad my desktop stayed minty fresh. My laptop will probably be moved to mint when it gets replaced. And W7 will remain my GoG machine for the near future.

dorsetknob · Aug 26, 2016

Nobody99 said:
Although I have been asking myself as to how will Microsoft earn money if people won't buy new server editions.

Simple
"windows as a Service($$$ = you want this part of the O/S to work PLEASE SUBSCRIBE )

64K · Aug 26, 2016

dorsetknob said:
Simple
"windows as a Service($$$ = you want this part of the O/S to work PLEASE SUBSCRIBE )

A yearly fee is a possibility. They did it with MS Office. They could just do security updates for Win 10 for free but if you wanted the updates with improved or added features then pay for a yearly license.

Nobody99 · Aug 26, 2016

This should make companies reevaluate their choice of an OS for a server, reducing costs has always been important.

dorsetknob · Aug 26, 2016

Even Intel was thinking of this Stratagy
what happened to the planned Download a Microcode Update to unlock extra CPU functionality.
Intel Planned on Releasing
New Cpu's with Certain Parts Disabled but Could be "" UNLOCKED BY A PAID MICROCODE DOWNLOAD ".

Anyone else Remember this

P4-630 · Aug 26, 2016

dorsetknob said:
Even Intel was thinking of this Stratagy
what happened to the planned Download a Microcode Update to unlock extra CPU functionality.
Intel Planned on Releasing
New Cpu's with Certain Parts Disabled but Could be "" UNLOCKED BY A PAID MICROCODE DOWNLOAD ".

Anyone else Remember this

Don't know about that, from the 90s?

Nobody99 · Aug 26, 2016

For clarification my argument was against SaaS. I only remember when Microsoft released an update that actually came from Intel and disabled overclocking on non-K CPUs.

dorsetknob · Aug 26, 2016

P4-630 said:
Don't know about that, from the 90s?

More Recent than the 90's I believe
late 2000 to 2012 ish ( google tells me 2010 )
think it was about unlocking cores and CPU Cache levels and other functions that could be set and then adjusted by micro code updates
P4-630
EDIT for those completely unaware of what i was on about
HAVE A READ HERE
https://www.engadget.com/2010/09/18/intel-wants-to-charge-50-to-unlock-stuff-your-cpu-can-already-d/

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Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

Now that W10 is out, are you a W7/W8 refusenik?

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Wait and see how W10 develops over the next few months

Gotta try it out a bit more

Depends on how good DX12 is and the support it gets

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