Intel Core "Kaby Lake" Desktop Processors First Wave Detailed

[Audiophizile]

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I apologies, but what is so enthusiastic about those CPUs that are basically the same as the ones launched 5 years ago?!?

Nothing enthusiastic. Slightly better performance with a few new features. Slightly better feature gain than the move to skylake was and probably the same performance gain while using the same amount of power. Nothing revolutionary but a sure 15+% performance increase and good feature increase for people upgrading from a 4-5 year old Intel chip.

 

[cdawall]

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I apologies, but what is so enthusiastic about those CPUs that are basically the same as the ones launched 5 years ago?!?

What's the same? We have more PCI-e lanes, new SATA etc. Want to blame someone? Stop blaming intel and start blaming software developers that are lazy.

Also remember clock for clock these chips vs a first gen are 100% faster if not more.

 

[Audiophizile]

If Zen able to output 90% performance of Skylake Haswell with 50% price of 6-8 cores CPU Intel, AMD is win.

The problem is there is a huge price difference between Intel's 6 and 8 core CPUs. If you want 90% of Intel's 4c/8t performance for half the price of an 8 core Intel you're getting ripped off by ~$200. Same 90% performance of 4c/8t Intel for half the price of Intel's 6c/12t 6900k and you may have a competitive chip. Remember kabylake should be at least a 5% improvement over skylake so really we should be comparing apples to apples with Zens release and putting zen up against that.

 

[TheGuruStud]

What's the same? We have more PCI-e lanes, new SATA etc. Want to blame someone? Stop blaming intel and start blaming software developers that are lazy.

Also remember clock for clock these chips vs a first gen are 100% faster if not more.

You have good jokes.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

..they'd come with more than 4 cores if they were targeted at enthusiasts you monopoly operating, price gouging douchebags.

Tell us how you really feel.

 

[cdawall]

You have good jokes.

What does an i7 920 perform like in comparison clock for clock?

Also why do games for the most part only use 4 cores?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Maybe building a Kaby Lake build this december if it comes out by then.

 

[cdawall]

I won't be I'm going to be quietly sitting praying amd releases something competitive that brings prices down

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I won't be I'm going to be quietly sitting praying amd releases something competitive that brings prices down

Well if you saw my thread about my current rig. its a bit broken right now and i need to buy a cheap board to hold me over.

 

[hapkiman]

With that bump in frequency alone, the optimizations notwithstanding, this may be a bigger step-up over the 6700k than most think.

 

[R-T-B]

What does an i7 920 perform like in comparison clock for clock?

I've tested it. I don't have the numbers handy, but it was nowhere near a 100% increase to Skylake, anyways.

 

[cdawall]

I've tested it. I don't have the numbers handy, but it was nowhere near a 100% increase to Skylake, anyways.

Stock vs stock? The 2.66ghz i7 920 vs a 4.2ghz 6700K, it is a well over 100% performance increase. Even clock for clock core for core especially when you take into account the substantial leaps and bounds intel has made with multithreading there has been a more the 100% increase in performance.

I have all of the generations of chips at work I could in theory plop a comparison out.

 

[R-T-B]

Stock vs stock? The 2.66ghz i7 920 vs a 4.2ghz 6700K, it is a well over 100% performance increase. Even clock for clock core for core especially when you take into account the substantial leaps and bounds intel has made with multithreading there has been a more the 100% increase in performance.

You said:

Also remember clock for clock these chips vs a first gen are 100% faster if not more.

Not Stock vs Stock, obviously. I'm talking singlethreaded IPC. Clock vs clock.

 

[cdawall]

You said:


Not Stock vs Stock, obviously. I'm talking singlethreaded IPC. Clock vs clock.

Even clock for clock core for core especially when you take into account the substantial leaps and bounds intel has made with multithreading there has been a more the 100% increase in performance.

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There are always going to be benchmarks that will show less than 100% scaling on single core IPC, however there are others that do show 100+ % gains. Overall the chips have gained huge bumps in performance. That being said I would not be surprised if we were nearing the end of performance boosts for this design. Intel has gone full AMD, 5ghz Xeons, 22 core Xeons ah how the times have changed

 

[R-T-B]

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There are always going to be benchmarks that will show less than 100% scaling on single core IPC, however there are others that do show 100+ % gains. Overall the chips have gained huge bumps in performance. That being said I would not be surprised if we were nearing the end of performance boosts for this design. Intel has gone full AMD, 5ghz Xeons, 22 core Xeons ah how the times have changed

Admitedly, I'm just going by the simply CPU-Z bench.

 

[EarthDog]

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There are always going to be benchmarks that will show less than 100% scaling on single core IPC, however there are others that do show 100+ % gains. Overall the chips have gained huge bumps in performance. That being said I would not be surprised if we were nearing the end of performance boosts for this design. Intel has gone full AMD, 5ghz Xeons, 22 core Xeons ah how the times have changed

Intel has always been there.

 

[cdawall]

Intel has always been there.

Not like this...this is full retard mode