Vega Not Before 2017: AMD to Investors

[rtwjunkie]

As for HBM2, AMD has priority order out of multiple fabs, I fully expect HBM2 to be AMD's game for 2017.

Actually AMD only has priority out of one fab: Hynix.

 

[R-T-B]

950's spiked over quite badly.

Thanks. That's one of those cards I don't pay much attention to.

 

[Audiophizile]

It's possible they'll use R9 Fury X foundation, shrink it down to 14nm and update the GCN to Polaris version if not even newer (there were speculations about GCN 4.0). Considering how well Fury X is holding up even against GTX 1080 in Vulkan and DX12, AMD isn't really worrying too hard about it. I mean, I'm sure Fury X owners have a big grin on their face, knowing their cards will hold up quite decently even in the future despite initial slight disappointment. Something NVIDIA owners of GTX 900 can just forget about...

Even in the 1 single vulkan game the fury x is 15-20% behind. Let's not count every other game in the world where the 1080 is 30-50% faster. That's not competition.

That's the point, (well, my point), I have a 60hz refresh monitor and if I had DX12, I don't need the game to play faster. DX12 benefits GCN because GCN 'needs' to be better.
AMD ought to be better than they are. DX12 gets them there.

Does dx12 or vulkan get them there? From everything I've seen dx12 gives AMD a small bump where vulkan is what makes them look good. Dx12 by itself makes the 480 on par with a 1060 instead of slightly behind. Vulkan makes it pull away from the 1060.

 

[RejZoR]

Even in the 1 single vulkan game the fury x is 15-20% behind. Let's not count every other game in the world where the 1080 is 30-50% faster. That's not competition.

You're comparing cards that are one generation apart, are you aware of that?

 

[Octopuss]

I guess I will buy second hand 390x while I wait. No big deal, I only play at 1920x1200 and don't plan to change it anytime soon.

 

[Audiophizile]

You're comparing cards that are one generation apart, are you aware of that?

You realize that you said it was holding up well to the 1080...

 

[RejZoR]

You realize that you said it was holding up well to the 1080...

For a last gen, it is.

 

[Audiophizile]

For a last gen, it is.

A 980ti is holding up better unless you only have doom in your library.

 

[RejZoR]

Now you're saying like Doom is the only game where AMD has a clear edge...

 

[Audiophizile]

Now you're saying like Doom is the only game where AMD has a clear edge...

You may be able to count hitman. It still doesn't see the performance improvement of vulkan/doom.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Now you 2 are verging on a private conversation, if so take it there please, not here..... thank you.

 

[chr0nos]

What I meant with the OC capabilities is that we are getting "bad" chips, in the sense that they are already at the limit of what it can reach, possibly cherry picked and the rest get downgraded to RX460/RX470.

I dont know how to explain it clearly but just look at previous generations a see how much you can push them (Nividia/AMD), it could be terrible yields from the newer node, so thats why there are not much RX480.

 

[Divide Overflow]

First half of 2017?
This had better be out the first quarter of 2017.

 

[Assimilator]

950's spiked over quite badly.

Some 950s spiked over.

And the spec allows for spikes. It doesn't allow for continuous overdraw.

 

[Krzych]

They better come out with Vega at the very beginning of the year because everybody has his patience limit, early 2017 is kinda okay, but if they will maintain their "wait for eternity" thing in 2017 then I will go green again. If Nvidia even releases 1080 Ti before Vega....

 

[Fluffmeister]

First half of 2017?
This had better be out the first quarter of 2017.

Either way it's rather late however people want to slice it, at least Zen will finally appear in early in 2017.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...xt-gen-vega-confirms-zen-on-track-for-q1-2017

With GP102 already on the market too, the gap in performance is as wide as it's ever been, nVidia are no doubt all about Volta at this stage too, and with Pascals apparent competition still half a year away at least.