NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Specifications Leaked, Inbound for Holiday 2016?

[MustSeeMelons]

The pricing makes me sick.. Can we please boycott Nvidia?

 

[Fluffmeister]

Heh. Such drama over products no one is forced to buy.

 

[$ReaPeR$]

Yeah I am guessing $800 - $900. Due to GDDR5 it might actually cost the same to make as the 1080 since it has GDDR5X. So I wouldn't be surprised if they priced it at $800 to get people to pay more for the 1080 Ti.

Same as before - the 980 and Titan X prices were placed to get people to buy the 980 Ti.

well, yes indeed. with no competition they are raping the consumer with every chance they get.

The pricing makes me sick.. Can we please boycott Nvidia?

LOL, i said the same thing some time ago. hell will freeze over before people do that, sadly.

 

[the54thvoid]

The pricing makes me sick.. Can we please boycott Nvidia?

It's not a boycott. You simply don't buy the products they price so high - it's called financial sense. If I had a lot more money, I would have already bought a Titan XP and a Broadwell 10 core chip. I can afford but the margin of cost is encroaching silly levels at the top end.

Heh. Such drama over products no one is forced to buy.

Yeah. I don't like the pricing one bit, it does annoy me but ultimately, it's a product I don't need and hence, I 'll save my cash for now. That and the fact we KNOW a higher functioning Vega card will do very well in appropriate scenarios so Nvidia will release Volta as soon as possible and that WILL have the DX12 hardware. I won't lie - I am again waiting for AMD's next card (which I have been doing for some years now) but I have a bad feeling it wont be the card I buy next because it wont be the best card to buy. Just like before.

 

[Parn]

The prices are getting ridiculous.

Sincerely hope AMD delivers Vega on time and its performance on par with the hype.

 

[Ungari]

Don't have high hopes for Vega as well.

Why not?
Polaris pushed forward the performance envelope at the low to mid range market and is ready for the new APIs.
Vega will only be better as it is geared for high end enthusiast market.

 

[64K]

I agree with the members that simply say don't buy the 1080 Ti if you feel the price is too high. As far as most companies are concerned "money talks and bullshit walks" so speak the language that companies understand and just don't buy it. It's not even a question of if it's affordable or not. It will be affordable to a lot of people but is it worth the $$$ to you or would a 1080 be enough for what you want as far as eye-candy and what FPS you are comfortable with at your resolution assuming you want an upgrade right now.

I've already decided that I have enough GPU for my gaming needs for now and wait on Volta and Navi and by then we should have a better idea what will be required for the average DX12 game.

 

[ratirt]

Well the only truth is that games are developing way more faster in terms of details and performance demands but can't say similar for GPU's developing fast enough to deliver proper performance in a reasonable price range :/ Too bad

I agree with the members that simply say don't buy the 1080 Ti if you feel the price is too high. As far as most companies are concerned "money talks and bullshit walks" so speak the language that companies understand and just don't buy it. It's not even a question of if it's affordable or not. It will be affordable to a lot of people but is it worth the $$$ to you or would a 1080 be enough for what you want as far as eye-candy and what FPS you are comfortable with at your resolution assuming you want an upgrade right now.

I've already decided that I have enough GPU for my gaming needs for now and wait on Volta and Navi and by then we should have a better idea what will be required for the average DX12 game.

Your comfortable resolution? None of the cards is able to deliver 60fps in all the games at 4k I f that's somebody's comfy res. Not talking about chess master since that most will manage. Games are developing so fast while cards don't. Buying titan xp for 1200$ or 1080 or TI makes no sense for me. Those are already down 60FPS in new games. What about those to come? even worse.
Blame it on 4k possibility or bad performance of cards. At least what I see, AMD marks their products at a price range affordable for most users. Hope Vega will kill Nvidia in some point with their attitude. Even though I've never had an AMD card i'd love to try it and maybe save some cash. GO AMD

 

[64K]

Your comfortable resolution? None of the cards is able to deliver 60fps in all the games at 4k I f that's somebody's comfy res.

True. There are a small handful of games that even a single Titan X can't max at 4K with average 60 FPS whether from being very demanding or poorly optimized and there will probably be a few more before Volta and Navi. When you look at maxing every single game at 4K 60 FPS it's time to look at SLI/Crossfire.

Like I said in my post that you quoted the " FPS that you are comfortable with."

 

[ratirt]

I don't think SLI/Xfire is a solution over here. Most new games take no benefit from SLI nor Xfire. actually in some titles the performance is worse than on a single GPU. Besides we could see the approach of multi GPU back in the days and there were always problems with it. I don't think that moving for multi gpu is a great idea. Besides nobody knows if future games will support Multi GPU. Coding game for Multi GPU takes time and money and companies producing games will try to avoid spending additional money for that. especially if they know that multi GPU users is rather a few % of the Video card market. Also getting a 2x1080 for 4k games is rather stupid. Not mentioning most players can't afford it or simply won't buy it anyway. So companies are going to skip multi GPU coding. What I really see valuable is API like Vulcan. That really kicks things up a notch in FPS count

 

[MustSeeMelons]

It's not a boycott. You simply don't buy the products they price so high - it's called financial sense. If I had a lot more money, I would have already bought a Titan XP and a Broadwell 10 core chip. I can afford but the margin of cost is encroaching silly levels at the top end.

If enough people start doing it, it will be. If i had money for a Titan XP I'd still not by it, way too much for a GPU..

 

[Vlada011]

I will never even think to buy NVIDIA before AMD show up their cards.
If they repeat same as HD7970 >R9-290X after Fury X they will beat both and TITAN and GTX1080.
Because of that waiting AMD to show their improvements and than we will see.
I give you warranty if AMD launch card with 16GB and HBM2 10% slower than TITAN X many people will change sides.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Heh. Such drama over products no one is forced to buy.

I really hate those type of comments. Seriously!

Dude, at first glance sure, nobody is putting a gun to your head and say buy the card. However, if you have a top monitor with 1440p or 4K resolution and you want to play latest games on full details, are you still telling me that nobody forces to buy?!? WTF? You have to buy it, because there is no frickin' alternative. Not unless you want to fully use that monitor...

 

[Ungari]

I will never even think to buy NVIDIA before AMD show up their cards.

Are you the same Vlad from EVGA Forums?
If so, you are my favorite poster over there!

 

[Fluffmeister]

I really hate those type of comments. Seriously!

Dude, at first glance sure, nobody is putting a gun to your head and say buy the card. However, if you have a top monitor with 1440p or 4K resolution and you want to play latest games on full details, are you still telling me that nobody forces to buy?!? WTF? You have to buy it, because there is no frickin' alternative. Not unless you want to fully use that monitor...

No one is forced to by a "top monitor" either. Fact is nVidia have the fastest cards on the market and again they have no competition at the moment.

It's also a free market, don,'t like it?

Tough

 

[Prima.Vera]

No one is forced to by a "top monitor" either. Fact is nVidia have the fastest cards on the market and again they have no competition at the moment.

It's also a free market, don,'t like it?

Tough

True enough, however even if is a free market, if is no competition, then what do you do? You are forced to buy in the end whatever product there is on that time if you really need it, right?
Imagine a world where you only have 1 big car producer. What do you do if you want to go to work? Take the local bus for a 2 hour ride to the office, or buy the expensive car for a 15 mins ride? See? Nobody is forcing you to buy the car. You can always take the slower solution....

 

[Captain_Tom]

Price point of $850. Right where I thought it would be and more than I'm willing to spend on a graphics card.

Judging by the TITAN X Pascal review on TPU, the performance gain won't be all that much either, especially as it's gonna be slower than the TXP.

I would totally pay $1000 for a graphics card if it was 2x stronger than the $400 dollar cards, and would remain the champion for 1.5 years. However that has never happened. (Closest to this being reality is when the $600 7970 managed to be the halo card for over a year straight).

Vega may be able to do it though. AMD tends to only release a flagship every 1.5 years, and if they go buck-wild I could see the top Vega being a 6144-SP, 8-16GB HBM2 monster. We will see though, and I wouldn't get my hopes up for anything anymore.

 

[Fluffmeister]

True enough, however even if is a free market, if is no competition, then what do you do? You are forced to buy in the end whatever product there is on that time if you really need it, right?
Imagine a world where you only have 1 big car producer. What do you do if you want to go to work? Take the local bus for a 2 hour ride to the office, or buy the expensive car for a 15 mins ride? See? Nobody is forcing you to buy the car. You can always take the slower solution....

Imagine a world where people have more disposable income than you, and they can afford to get to work on time.

 

[Captain_Tom]

Imagine a world where people have more disposable income than you, and they can afford to get to work on time.

You are completely missing the point of what he is saying. He isn't saying no one has enough money!

He is saying that if you gain control over a part of the market you can essentially force people to pay more money as long as there is an illusion of choice.


That is exactly what Nvidia is doing right now. They are pricing their x60 and x80 cards terribly so that people are encouraged to pay more for the x70 and x80 Ti parts. The sad thing is: they are really just x60 and x80 parts called something stronger!!! Classically Nvidia would make the first 256-bit card their x60 part, and their next highest part either the x60 Ti or x70. But instead they are calling (What would be) the 1060 a 1070 so that you are willing to pay an extra $150 for it, and they are about to convince people to pay $800 for what would be a 1080!!!


Then the Titan line is just one big hilarious joke where they add maybe 5-10% more junk and call it a "Titan". These "Titans" of gaming still get beaten by AMD's cards within 6 months of their release, and yet people pay $1100+ for em. The saddest thing of all is that Nvidia could likely produce a $2000/16GB HBM/6000-SP/350w monster right now, but it is cheaper to just sell something less than half as strong for over half the price. After all, people seem to only care about the name...

 

[dalekdukesboy]

bottom line?

you want a 1080? get a 1070 and OC it later ... it's sufficient for now (up to 1440p ) for me it translate into a ~400chf price reduction

you want a 1080Ti? get a 1080 and OC it later ... it's sufficient for now (up to 4k if not too hardcore on settings ... come on ... FXAA/MSAA/TXAA are not needed for it ) it would have been a ~200chf price reduction

you want a Titan X Pascal? think again .... or get a 1080 and OC it ... or wait the 1080Ti and OC it but the price reduction would not be really worth it ... IF ..., a big IF, the MSRP would be respected ... pfahahahaha, at MSRP that would be a ~200chf price reduction (out of MSRP : 50 to 100chf price reduction i bet ... )


nah ... 800$ MSRP maybe ... but 1000+ price ... pfahahaha (country dependent ... ofc )
TXP are 1400-1500chf where i am (1541.17$ opposed to 1200$ ) unless nvidia store ...[/QUOTE]I


I like what you say, but I can sum it up much more succinctly if with much less details; If you have any graphics card but particularly if you have a gtx 908ti or any gtx 900 series....skip this generation...done! Great cards, but wait till AMD can compete, drive prices down, and one more generation goes by and Nvidia gives us price, performance, AND efficiency, whereas this generation you have about 1.5 of those things at this point..

 

[Captain_Tom]

bottom line?


I like what you say, but I can sum it up much more succinctly if with much less details; If you have any graphics card but particularly if you have a gtx 908ti or any gtx 900 series....skip this generation...done! Great cards, but wait till AMD can compete, drive prices down, and one more generation goes by and Nvidia gives us price, performance, AND efficiency, whereas this generation you have about 1.5 of those things at this point..

Want the performance of what the $1200 Titan X will give you in a year? Buy a Fury X.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

huh? Fury X? Either I misunderstand you entirely or you're joking.

 

[qubit]

huh? Fury X? Either I misunderstand you entirely or you're joking.

AMD cards conquer all according to our captain.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Um...yeah. I think he's smoking something unless he's talking about the old Titans from previous generation then MAYBE he'd be close. Otherwise he's thinking if you put a fury x under ice and it clocks 200% beyond normal maybe it could have a prayer of reaching the ridiculously priced Titan. But love it or hate it the titan is fastest card on the planet for the moment and it doesn't have a competitor...except overclocking 1080's lol.

 

[Captain_Tom]

Um...yeah. I think he's smoking something unless he's talking about the old Titans from previous generation then MAYBE he'd be close. Otherwise he's thinking if you put a fury x under ice and it clocks 200% beyond normal maybe it could have a prayer of reaching the ridiculously priced Titan. But love it or hate it the titan is fastest card on the planet for the moment and it doesn't have a competitor...except overclocking 1080's lol.

Dude it's already close to the 1080 in Vulkan/DX12, and lol it smokes the old Titans.


Call me crazy all you want - but the 7970 is stronger than the original Titan, and thus it isn't insane to think it's possible the Fury X will come close to the new Titan in a while. Seems to happen to all of Nvidia's cards.