Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[P4-630]

More Recent than the 90's I believe
late 2000 to 2012 ish ( google tells me 2010 )
think it was about unlocking cores and CPU Cache levels and other functions that could be set and then adjusted by micro code updates
P4-630
EDIT for those completely unaware of what i was on about
HAVE A READ HERE
https://www.engadget.com/2010/09/18/intel-wants-to-charge-50-to-unlock-stuff-your-cpu-can-already-d/

"you should know that Intel's just testing it out on this low-end processor in a few select markets for now."

That was in 2010 I read, it probably wasn't a success.

 

[Nobody99]

"you should know that Intel's just testing it out on this low-end processor in a few select markets for now."

That was in 2010 I read, it probably wasn't a success.

A lot of people don't even know that Intel disables cores and features on their CPUs, this is like throwing these facts into their face.

 

[dorsetknob]

That was in 2010 I read, it probably wasn't a success.

Probably to susceptible to Hacking by Clever IT techs and Results either hosted on dubious Servers for Torrent Downloads with updating instructions which would then bypass " Intels UPGRADE" and potential revenue Stream

You want a similar example Socket 771 to socket 755 Xeon upgrades
with a little mod 771 Xeon CPU will fit a Socket 755 Motherboard
But most 775 motherboards require a Microcode injection to Recognize a modded Xeon 771 CPU

Enough of this BACK TO THE OP SUBJECT MATTER we Drifted off subject even if its intresting

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I updated 2 systems out of 5(?). My game tower and laptop went 7->10, my wife's office tower and laptop stayed on 7, and there's a spare Dell desktop in the closet that's still got 8.1, plus some other mothballed systems I haven't touched in months that are running who-knows-what.

Although, with the Windows Update issues I'm having on a clean install on the office tower (new platform), I'm about ready to give Windows the finger. Again. (Was Linux-only for a few years in the 2000s)

 

[TheOne]

A yearly fee is a possibility. They did it with MS Office. They could just do security updates for Win 10 for free but if you wanted the updates with improved or added features then pay for a yearly license.

Windows 10 Enterprise E3 and E5 are supposed to be monthly subscriptions.

 

[yotano211]

I am still on windows 7 pro on the business laptop and 8.1 with a windows 7 shell on the gaming laptop.

 

[Ahhzz]

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft-pays-windows-10-installs-230921512.html

 

[rtwjunkie]

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft-pays-windows-10-installs-230921512.html

Lol, wow, but yeah that seems like a bonafide complaint there. It's a good example of some people really did not understand what Microsoft did.

 

[64K]

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft-pays-windows-10-installs-230921512.html

The response from MS:

“We were saddened to learn of the problem this family faced with our products and we are committed to working directly with our customers to address their needs,” Microsoft told The Register. “We will continue to listen to customer feedback and make improvements based on what we are hearing from our customers.”

wtf?

 

[qubit]

The response from MS:

“We were saddened to learn of the problem this family faced with our products and we are committed to working directly with our customers to address their needs,” Microsoft told The Register. “We will continue to listen to customer feedback and make improvements based on what we are hearing from our customers.”

wtf?

I know, the bullshit stinks.

 

[Ahhzz]

Lol, wow, but yeah that seems like a bonafide complaint there. It's a good example of some people really did not understand what Microsoft did.

I have to admit, I'm surprised some of our crankier clients didn't try the same thing when I had to roll back their machines due to software incompatiblity, etc. I had to charge them for M$'s tactics. I have had more than one try to bill the local ISP on occasion when it turned out to be their equipment, and I had to spend time troubleshooting a down network.

 

[eidairaman1]

Ugh Ive had to do that after a customers personal IT guy disconnected a few ethernet lines for Uverse TV a few years back, after i fixed the mess I told him fire him and get another that knows what he is doing.

 

[AsRock]

The response from MS:

“We were saddened to learn of the problem this family faced with our products and we are committed to working directly with our customers to address their needs,” Microsoft told The Register. “We will continue to listen to customer feedback and make improvements based on what we are hearing from our customers.”

wtf?

So they nothing then lol.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

So they nothing then lol.

Um, what does that mean, exactly?

 

[AsRock]

Meaning nothing changed.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Meaning nothing changed.

Maybe not, but I'm somewhat surprised that the guy got what he asked for without setting foot in court. Not that $650 means much to MS.

 

[Ahhzz]

Maybe not, but I'm somewhat surprised that the guy got what he asked for without setting foot in court. Not that $650 means much to MS.

No court means no precedent.

 

[rtwjunkie]

No court means no precedent.

However, it is still sort of, tho not a legal one. Attorneys will bring that up before a judge and MS counsel in future pretrial negotiations.

 

[HTC]

Micro$hit is SOOOOOOO in need of a good fat juicy lawsuit up their behinds ... perhaps then they actually start thinking and end this charade ...

 

[Atomic77]

Microsoft will do what ever they effin want to do. They are so big now that nobody can stop them.

 

[Nuckles56]

These days I have both win 8.1 (with start 8) and win 10 (with classic shell), and honestly, I prefer the look of windows 8.1 as I dislike the childishness of the the win 10 icons. Overall I don't see that much difference, but I haven't been using 10 for very long.

 

[Drone]

Tomorrow [Oct. 11], Microsoft will begin patching Windows 7, 8.1, Server 2008 R2, Server 2012 & R2

The coming changes are big, welcomed by some, and feared by others. Microsoft's record of releasing faulty patches has more than a few admins wondering if the convenience of patch rollups will be worth the trade-off.

In a blog post, Microsoft officials said the company will be releasing the following:

1. A security-only quality update, which will include all new security fixes for that month, will be published only to Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) and used by Configuration Manager and the Windows Update Catalog.

2. A security monthly quality update (also known as the "monthly rollup") that will contain all new security fixes for a month (the same ones in the security-only quality update), plus fixes from all previous monthly rollups. This one gets published to Windows Update for consumer PCs, WSUS, and the Windows Update Catalog.

3. A preview of the security monthly quality rollup (also known as the "preview rollup") that will contain a preview of new, non-security fixes that will be in the next monthly rollup, plus fixes from all previous monthly rollups. The security-only quality update will be on Patch Tuesday (or "B" week in Microsoft parlance).

http://www.zdnet.com/article/micros...ahead-of-first-monthly-windows-patch-rollups/

 

[Ahhzz]

Tomorrow [Oct. 11], Microsoft will begin patching Windows 7, 8.1, Server 2008 R2, Server 2012 & R2
The coming changes are big, welcomed by some, and feared by others. Microsoft's record of releasing faulty patches has more than a few admins wondering if the convenience of patch rollups will be worth the trade-off...../

So glad all mine have Auto Updates off....

 

[Drone]

So glad all mine have Auto Updates off....

True. Rolling back fucked up updates takes a lot of time and most importantly nerve cells lol
Lately big patches for iOS, Win 7 or 10 are getting really unpredictable. How many times I've heard that testers/insiders complained that patch 'x' can cause an issue for some users yet devs decide to release them anyway and later admit "yeah we know it's fucked, we'll fix it later".

 

[Ithanul]

Yep, that been talked about on another forum I visit.

Ugh.....I'm so not looking forward to dealing with those when updating computers at the Guard unit. Last year was a pain in the rear when one update disliked our W7 32bit machines. Thank goodness it was the ones only used for internet browsing, etc.(aka, Internet Cafe for flight crews) Not the important 100+ ones used for the exercise. It kept nuking out IE and 100% load on one core when it did.