Chinas stealth fighter to go on show.

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

China's domestic-built J-20 stealth fighter will make its public debut at an air show in Zhuhai City next week, with air-force pilots flying the new-generation warcraft, a military spokesperson said Friday.

General characteristics

• Crew: one (pilot)
• Length: 20 m (66.8 ft)
• Wingspan: 13 m (44.2 ft)
• Height: 4.45 m (14 ft 7 in)
• Wing area: 78 m2 (840 sq ft)
• Empty weight: 19,391 kg (42,750 lb)
• Gross weight: 32,092 kg (70,750 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 36,288 kg (80,001 lb) upper estimate[2]
• Fuel capacity: 11,340 kg (25,000 lb)
• Powerplant: 2 × Shenyang WS-10G (prototype), AL-31F (prototype) or Xian WS-15 (production) afterburningturbofans, 76.18 kN (17,125 lbf) thrust each dry, 122.3 or 179.9 kN (27,500 or 40,450 lbf) with afterburner
• Maximum speed: 2,100 km/h (1,305 mph; 1,134 kn)
• Wing loading: 410 kg/m2 (84 lb/sq ft)
• Thrust/weight: 1.06 (prototype with interim engines)

Armament

• PL-10 SRAAM[92]

• PL-12 Medium Range AAM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-20

 

[dorsetknob]

Latest Result of the PRC Industrial/Millitary hacking espionage Dept eh
it looks so Familiar

Like they mixed the F18 Hornets Blueprints with some Saab ones

 

[Recon-UK]

If WW3 happens all i am going to say is i don't think domesticity is going to help.

Meanwhile i stole all of the lead from your roof tiling to build my nuke shelter

 

[Nuckles56]

And you forgot the large amount of f-22 raptor as well dorsetknob

 

[dorsetknob]

If WW3 happens

Factualy speaking world war 2 has yet to happen

1914 The Great War Starts ( now Called World War 1 ).
1918 Armistice Declared Fighting stops (But not the WAR )
1939 the Great War Resumes ( that armistice broken from 1918 ) Germany Resumes Fighting WW1
1945 Germany Surrenders THE GREAT WAR or !st WORLD WAR ENDS .

lots of People think Germany Surrendered in 1918 thus ending world war one NOT TRUE
an Armistice is not a surrender its just a legal Cession of fighting ( as Celebrated on 11 November as Armistice Day )

 

[Recon-UK]

Factualy speaking world war 2 has yet to happen

1914 The Great War Starts ( now Called World War 1 ).
1918 Armistice Declared Fighting stops (But not the WAR )
1939 the Great War Resumes ( that armistice broken from 1918 )
1945 Germany Surrenders THE GREAT WAR or !st WORLD WAR ENDS .

lots of People think Germany Surrendered in 1918 thus ending world war one NOT TRUE
an Armistice is not a surrender its just a legal Cession of fighting

Oh boy don't start that one lol

 

[dorsetknob]

Meanwhile i stole all of the lead from your roof tiling to build my nuke shelter

Oh boy don't start that one lol

Oops you seem to be Stocking up on the Pb going to use the left overs for Reloads for rounds

Me i am a walking poison Gas Generator I specialize in the Silent but deadly Gas Attack ( not subject to the Geneva convention )

 

[64K]

True European Nationalism hit the curb thanks to the Third Reich.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

True European Nationalism hit the curb thanks to the Third Reich.

Should of taken the second left at the lights instead of the third reich. Nasty traffic jam that was

 

[jboydgolfer]

Looks like a lengthened F 22

Looks like only aam , no gau

 

[cdawall]

Factualy speaking world war 2 has yet to happen

1914 The Great War Starts ( now Called World War 1 ).
1918 Armistice Declared Fighting stops (But not the WAR )
1939 the Great War Resumes ( that armistice broken from 1918 ) Germany Resumes Fighting WW1
1945 Germany Surrenders THE GREAT WAR or !st WORLD WAR ENDS .

lots of People think Germany Surrendered in 1918 thus ending world war one NOT TRUE
an Armistice is not a surrender its just a legal Cession of fighting ( as Celebrated on 11 November as Armistice Day )

You just say that so America can't call themselves back to back world war champs.

 

[dorsetknob]

You just say that so America can't call themselves back to back world war champs.

No its the Truth if you do not believe me google Armistice then compare it to Surrender

armistice
ˈɑːmɪstɪs/
noun
noun: armistice; plural noun: armistices
an agreement made by opposing sides in a war to stop fighting for a certain time; a truce.
"the Italian government signed an armistice with the Allies"
synonyms: truce, ceasefire, suspension of hostilities, cessation of hostilities, peace; More

http://www.tenfactsabout.co.uk/0002armistice.htm

Fact Five
The Armistice was designed to end the fighting of World War One, and the terms of it would make it impossible for Germany to restart the war, at least in the short term. They were ordered to give up 2,500 heavy guns, 2,500 field guns, 25,000 machine guns, 1,700 aeroplanes and all submarines they possessed (they were originally asked to give up more submarines than they actually had!). They were also asked to give up several warships and disarm all of the ones that they were allowed to keep.

Fact Six
If Germany broke any of the terms of the Armistice, such as not evacuating areas they were ordered to evacuate, not handing over weapons or prisoners of war in the timescales given or causing damage to any individual or their property, fighting would begin again with 48 hours notice.
surrender
səˈrɛndə/
verb
verb: surrender; 3rd person present: surrenders; past tense: surrendered; past participle: surrendered; gerund or present participle: surrendering

1. 1.
   stop resisting to an enemy or opponent and submit to their authority.
   "over 140 rebels surrendered to the authorities"
   synonyms: capitulate, give in, give (oneself) up, yield, concede, submit, climb down, give way, defer, acquiesce, back down, cave in, relent, succumb, quit, crumble; More
   be beaten, be overcome, be overwhelmed, fall victim;
   lay down one's arms, raise/show the white flag, throw in the towel/sponge, accept defeat, concede defeat
   "the government surrendered to the Allied forces"
   antonyms: resist, withstand
   • (in sport) lose (a point, game, or advantage) to an opponent.
     "she surrendered only twenty games in her five qualifying matches"
   • give in to (a powerful emotion or influence).
     "the president has surrendered to panic and is making things worse"
2. 2.
   give up or hand over (a person, right, or possession), typically on compulsion or demand.
   "in 1815 Denmark surrendered Norway to Sweden"
   synonyms: give up, relinquish, renounce, forgo, forswear, cede, abdicate, waive, forfeit, sacrifice; More
   
   

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Looks like a lengthened F 22

Looks like only aam , no gau

IMO id say it looks more like a cross between an F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon (Or Saab Gripen)

 

[rtwjunkie]

Latest Result of the PRC Industrial/Millitary hacking espionage Dept eh
it looks so Familiar

Like they mixed the F18 Hornets Blueprints with some Saab ones

My first thought....It definitely had some Swedish fighter influence!

 

[slozomby]

I think the plane you all are looking for is the typhoon 3

and the J-10

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yeah, looks like a Typhoon/Raptor hybrid. The fins on the back of it look...diminutive...so I suspect it doesn't have very good close-quarters aerial combat performance (yawing to make the main gun line up with a target). I also suspect the Raptor has better stealth characteristics because, for example, that antenna sticking out the front of it. The engines also look small and the stats back it up: Raptor has 116 kN worth of dry thrust compared to 76 kN. Advantage goes to the Chinese, I'm sure, in that their aircraft is much cheaper to produce.

 

[slozomby]

I also suspect the Raptor has better stealth characteristics because, for example, that antenna sticking out the front of it.

that "antenna" on the front of the j20 looks like a retractable fueling port.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It's not thick enough for fuel. Additionally, it's in a really bad place for aerial refueling. It's likely some kind of radio either to receive or transmit signals (communication, detection, or ECM).

 

[64K]

Factualy speaking world war 2 has yet to happen

1914 The Great War Starts ( now Called World War 1 ).
1918 Armistice Declared Fighting stops (But not the WAR )
1939 the Great War Resumes ( that armistice broken from 1918 ) Germany Resumes Fighting WW1
1945 Germany Surrenders THE GREAT WAR or !st WORLD WAR ENDS .

lots of People think Germany Surrendered in 1918 thus ending world war one NOT TRUE
an Armistice is not a surrender its just a legal Cession of fighting ( as Celebrated on 11 November as Armistice Day )

That's true. Very little was settled at the pause of the Great War (the war to end all wars) and the War Reparations forced on Germany by the Allies ensured that we would all fight the Germans again.

 

[droopyRO]

From what i know the J-20 is for domestic use only and the J-31 is for domestic and export, kind of like F22 vs F35.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Congress banned the export of F22. Japan was due to buy it but the US got twitchy about potential leaks of technology.



Song Zhongping, a former officer in Beijing’s strategic missile force, revealed the export ban of J 20 in a December interview with China’s Phoenix TV news program.

“The export of advanced Chinese military technology is prohibited,” Song said. “This is in order to keep J-20’s fifth-generation technology out of hostile hands.”
Song described the J-20 restriction as directly connected to the F-22 prohibition.

“If one day the United States decides to export the F-22, China might consider lifting its ban, as well,” he said.

His reasoning seems to be that if America’s allies possessed F-22s, China’s allies would need J-20s to balance them. And with the F-22 proliferating, its secrets would proliferate, too—obviating any need to similarly limit the spread of the J-20’s presumably similar technology.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

The F-22 is USA's tool to kill the F-35 it is selling should the need arise. When the 6th generation fighters debut, USA will likely permit the selling of the F-22.

I'm almost certain sixth generation will be a pilotless robot.

 

[droopyRO]

I'm almost certain sixth generation will be a pilotless robot.

I don`t remember where i read(it was a study on future air power) that very advanced missiles, sensor fusion together with data links will make even B-2 bombers air to air platforms.

 

[cdawall]

I don`t remember where i read(it was a study on future air power) that very advanced missiles, sensor fusion together with data links will make even B-2 bombers air to air platforms.

You would be surprised how close everything built after the 70's is to being able to fly without a pilot. . .

 

[droopyRO]

Flying is one thing, fighting and taking decisions are totally different, that is why you need a pilot.