If one PCI-E slot is missing, than the other does not work?

[Artas1984]

What happened is my video card got "mortally" stuck in the main PCI-E slot. Pushing the jumper as hard as i could down to release the lock did not remove the video card. It felt as if super glue had been spilled into the PCI-E lane. I was mad, i knew i had to rip off the card and potentially damage something to get it of. And so i ripped the whole plastic bridge that holds the PCI-E lanes..

The computer did not start. I recognized the problem in the fact that the PCI-E lanes were shortcutting each other when not held by a plastic bridge, so i took pliers and ripped of every single PCI-E stick manually!

Now the computer works, but only through integrated graphics. If i try to use the second PCI-E slot for my dedicated video card, the signal is black and that is what is bugging me - why does not video card show any signal placed in the second PCI-E slot? The card is working fine in the other computer.

 

[dorsetknob]

Time to buy new/Replacement Motherboard

Reason=

I was mad, i knew i had to rip off the card and potentially damage something to get it of. And so i ripped the whole plastic bridge that holds the PCI-E lanes..

The computer did not start. I recognized the problem in the fact that the PCI-E lanes were shortcutting each other when not held by a plastic bridge, so i took pliers and ripped of every single PCI-E stick manually!

 

[OneMoar]

what .... pliers and computers don't mix son you likely ripped the traces out

 

[64K]

 

[Artas1984]

He he. I've uploaded my work. You can imagine now how i had to remove every PCI-E stick that was hanging from the lane... That was hard. Next time if something like that happens i will just bring the MB to the shop and ask them to remove. I obviously annihilated my warranty by doing so..

But anyway.. The PC went PRIME 95 with 4 GHz (no voltage) OC for 12 hours after this "incident".

My problem is that the secondary PCI-E lane does not respond. It is easy for all of you to simply adjust "go buy a new MB", but in fact, i'd like to know why the second PCI-E lane does not work if it is fine and the integrated graphics does work?

 

[OneMoar]

you shorted it out you likely burned the PCI-E controller out when you attacked the poor thing like a rabid badger and then attempted to power it up with the pins shorted like a frigging madman


board is done finished junk,

 

[Artas1984]

you shorted it out you likely burned the PCI-E controller out when you attacked the poor thing like a rabid badger and then attempted to power it up with the pins shorted like a frigging idiot

board is done finished junk,

While that might be true (burned PCI-E controller), you somehow missed this part:

But anyway.. The PC went PRIME 95 with 4 GHz (no voltage) OC for 12 hours after this "incident".

It ain't finished anything, that attitude of yours towards the motherboard and calling me idiot is not appreciated. Just try to be polite will you? I did not notice first that the sticks are short-cutting, my fault obviously, no need to be so negative and rude about it.

 

[OneMoar]

While that might be true (burned PCI-E controller), you somehow missed this part:

But anyway.. The PC went PRIME 95 with 4 GHz (no voltage) OC for 12 hours after this "incident".

It ain't finished anything, that attitude of yours towards the motherboard is not appreciated.

the attitude is toward you and your use of pliers on a 200 dollar board because you could't figure out how to release a peg retention clip
it the only other chance is that you didn't do a good enough job removing the busted pins and its still shorted but it looks like you ripped the top layer of copper off in places so now its likely perma-shorted anyway

that board will likely never host anouther pci-e card again gj genius

 

[verycharbroiled]

i did something similar, ripped the plastic socket out leaving the pins.

i used a credit card to bend all the contacts away from each other so they wouldnt short. that was a couple years ago, im typing on it now.

 

[OneMoar]

i did something similar, ripped the plastic socket out leaving the pins.

i used a credit card to bend all the contacts away from each other so they wouldnt short. that was a few years ago, im typing on it now.

THIS is how you handle such a situation NOT frigging pliers

 

[Artas1984]

the attitude is toward you and your use of pliers on a 200 dollar board because you could't figure out how to release a peg retention clip

Yes, exactly. Easy for you to say, you were not in my shoes. I was an idiot not take the problematic MB with the stuck video card to the RMA center in the first place, but i can tell you there was no way in hell to remove the video card - i sure tried it carefully to remove the card first, after frustrating myself for a very long time, my impatience took over and i ripped the socket. But i tried not to take it so seriously, you on the other hand came down with a tone like i ripped your motherboard, not mine...

i did something similar, ripped the plastic socket out leaving the pins.

i used a credit card to bend all the contacts away from each other so they wouldnt short. that was a couple years ago, im typing on it now.

Right choice obviously, i figured it out too late...

 

[R00kie]

I would applaud you, but my hands are full facepalming.

 

[Artas1984]

I would applaud you, but my hands are full facepalming.

Believe me, i am face-palming myself now. It's one of those instances when you are ashamed of your own actions, and know you could have done it the other way...

 

[alucasa]

Try working with mini ITX cases. It's far worse. But I've yet to rip PCI-E out of its roots. You castrated the poor motherboard with bare hands.

What's worse is that you were working with an ATX case which has far more room than ITX cases do...

Pure facepalm, golden, bravo.

Joking aside, I am sorry for your loss.

 

[dorsetknob]

So the board functions in a fashion ( for a while anyway )
What you have done is reduce a $200 Board to one that is worth $10 to $30 on Ebay ( if it Sells no Offense but there will be Some "IDIOT" who will buy it as Spares or repair ).

Functionally it is less than a Budget Brand Board.
Fit only for Desktop Office use/web surfing
Other uses you might Re purpose it for are
Home Server
NAS Server
Media Server.

You should also check the Card that was in that Slot for Damage (Very Carefully unless its already destroyed )

 

[newtekie1]

you shorted it out you likely burned the PCI-E controller out when you attacked the poor thing like a rabid badger and then attempted to power it up with the pins shorted like a frigging madman


board is done finished junk,

If he's lucky it only fried the PCI-E switch on the motherboard. If he's unlucky, it fried the PCI-E controller on the CPU, which is what the PCI-E x16 slots are connected to. If the PCI-E controller on the CPU is fried, then he'll need a new CPU too.

What you have done is reduce a $200 Board to one that is worth $10 to $30 on Ebay

This is a Z97 Gaming 3, no way it is a $200 board. You can go buy a Z97 Gaming 5, a better board, from newegg today for $120.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Ive ripped the locking peg off before, its a lot safer than risking the entire slot.

I dont really see the point of them anyway if the card is pushed in properly and attached to the case with screws.

 

[alucasa]

You guys are killing him.

 

[Artas1984]

If he's lucky it only fried the PCI-E switch on the motherboard. If he's unlucky, it fried the PCI-E controller on the CPU, which is what the PCI-E x16 slots are connected to. If the PCI-E controller on the CPU is fried, then he'll need a new CPU too.

No it's ok. The system is working fine. Big deal. I will "salvage" the board and use it with some Pentium dual core CPU for a home PC for mom to watch movies probably..

Ive ripped the locking peg off before, its a lot safer than risking the entire slot.

I dont really see the point of them anyway if the card is pushed in properly and attached to the case with screws.

I 've done that before too - ripped only the PEG clip. I had a successful RMA after that claiming that the PEG clip was faulty and caused me to brake it...

And yes i agree - i never liked those clips in the first place...

 

[newtekie1]

No it's ok. The system is working fine. Big deal. I will "salvage" the board and use it with some Pentium dual core CPU for a home PC for mom to watch movies probably..

Just because it seems to be working fine, doesn't mean you haven't fried the PCI-E controller built into the CPU. Until you put that CPU in a new motherboard, and test to make sure the PCI-E slots work, you don't know.

You're original question was why the 2nd slot wouldn't work just because the first was missing. And the answer is you very likely fried the PCI-E controller on the CPU, so any computer you put that CPU in will not have functioning PCI-E x16 slots. The PCI-E x16 slots on the motherboard are connect directly to the CPU. That's how it works.

 

[biffzinker]

Ive ripped the locking peg off before, its a lot safer than risking the entire slot.

I dont really see the point of them anyway if the card is pushed in properly and attached to the case with screws.

Same here, I've even purposely broken the plastic side lock off a slot since it was more of a pain in the ass pushing on it to let go of the card.

This type of locking mechanism.

Pci Express Slot

 

[Aquinus]

THIS is how you handle such a situation NOT frigging pliers

The words of reason have spoken. You know how you resolve this situation? By not tearing the GPU out of the freaking slot in the first place.

My very first infraction here was saying something unkind to someone who killed his 3960x by not using a heat sink on it because it didn't come with one. This situation makes me want to say something that will earn me one all over again for the same reason but, this IPA has stopped me.

"Take a hike!"

 

[OneMoar]

there isn't enough beer in the world for this level of fail this early in the afternoon

 

[Aquinus]

there isn't enough beer in the world for this level of fail this early in the afternoon

It's just enough to keep my mouth shut. Deep down there is a lot I want to say.

 

[OneMoar]

It's just enough to keep my mouth shut. Deep down there is a lot I want to say.

something like You _expletive_ ing _expletive_ how _expletive_ can you _expletive_ be ????
or how in the frozen _expletive_ do you even _expletive_ do this