Intel Readies Skylake-X As its Next High-end Desktop Platform

[the54thvoid]

I dont get the point of Kaby Lake-X.

I'm thinking you'll get the point if Intel release a standard i7 7700 chip in Jan 2017. No X = no unlocked multiplier. Makes Kaby Lake - X an easier sell.

If they do that, it's a new low blow. They're entitled to do so as a business but right now I am sorely crossing my fingers for Zen. Though I'm not too hopeful.

 

[Kaapstad]

If it has not got any extra cores then I am not interested.

10 core 6950Xs are really nice to use and I can not see any reason to upgrade from them.

I don't want to mess around with a new different platform that only has 10 cores max and a shedload of bugs like Haswell E had when it first launched just for an extra couple of percent extra performance.

 

[alucasa]

I am waiting for Broadwell 22c/44t cpu to drop its price to 2683v3 level.

 

[evernessince]

Let's be honest, these are the least interesting Intel releases probably ever. Intel has left the door wide open for Zen. If Zen has performance better than my 5820k, I'm going to upgrade just to spite Intel.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Let's be honest, these are the least interesting Intel releases probably ever. Intel has left the door wide open for Zen. If Zen has performance better than my 5820k, I'm going to upgrade just to spite Intel.

Spite votes have ended, the election is over

 

[alucasa]

Spite votes have ended, the election is over

And the aftermath is exactly like your avatar.

 

[Kaapstad]

Let's be honest, these are the least interesting Intel releases probably ever. Intel has left the door wide open for Zen. If Zen has performance better than my 5820k, I'm going to upgrade just to spite Intel.

Intel needs competition as the last really interesting family of CPUs was Sandy Bridge and SB E. At least these gave a big jump in performance over their predecessors.

 

[Roph]

Still 28 lanes on some chips, and you can bet your ass that the 44 lane ones will sell at even higher a price premium over the 28 lane chips than 40 lane variants of current chips do over 28 lane ones

The sole reason they chose 28 lanes is because people want 32 for dual gpu's

assholes

It's not like the bandwidth is needed for dual GPUs. Look at TPU's own PCIe bandwidth tests.

 

[efikkan]

LGA 2011/2011-3/2066 is where the real progress happens. Anyone owning a SB or newer have no reason to upgrade except for wanting more cores, so socket 115x is no significant upgrade.

Currently there are one CPU with good pricing in this segment; i7-6800K, which is a way better buy than i7-6700K. There are several cheap Xeons (with low clocks) as well, for those needing many cores but don't need high clocks.

I've been rocking a i7-3930K in my workstation for years, and it has been a tremendously good choice over the quad-cores. I'm looking forward to getting a octa-core, but they are still too pricey. I'm really hoping that AMD will finally provide some competition to lower those prices. A Skylake-X octa-core at $~550-600 would be an instant buy.

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I've observed the table in the article states 13.75 MB of cache for Skylake-X, I guess they mean it will start at 13.75 MB for the hex-core, in the following pattern (like Broadwell-E):
6-core: 6x256kB L2 + 13.5 MB L3 = 15 MB total (not counting L1)
8-core: 8x256kB L2 + 18 MB L3 = 20 MB total
10-core: 10x256kB L2 + 22.5 MB L3 = 25 MB total
One of the nice features of this platform is the much larger shared L3 cache, which not only is bigger "per core", but will also provide some benefit when some threads are more memory reliant.

 

[xorbe]

you are trying to be AMUSING ??

Some of us are fine with 4.4-4.6 GHz quad core oc, but the stupid paste is sky rocketing temps. We just want the soldered cap back, that's all.

 

[Aquinus]

I'm thinking you'll get the point if Intel release a standard i7 7700 chip in Jan 2017. No X = no unlocked multiplier. Makes Kaby Lake - X an easier sell.

My non-k 3820 has a partially unlocked multiplier and I've been satisfied with it and there is always the 125Mhz bclk strap when it's not. If I could get a non-gimped CPU (with all of its PCI-E lanes and DRAM channels intact,) but, gave up some ability to overclock compared to a version which was the opposite (overclocks well but, is a gimped CPU,) it would make it a far harder choice IMHO. I probably would even opt for that if given the option at the same or similar price. Overclocking isn't the only consideration I have when building or upgrading a machine.

 

[Scrizz]

Don't forget, LGA1366 also had 980X which was a 6 core with 12 threads. That was also back in 2009-ish?

and the 970. which was soo nice

 

[GAR]

If I was AMD, I would come in and take advantage of Intels lack of progress..... from broadwell-e to skylake-e, the performance difference will be so small. CMON AMD im rooting for you!!!!

 

[EarthDog]

Another freaking socket?

s2011 has been around for years now...since 2011 in fact (X79 Sandybridge E and Ivybridge E), while s2011 v3 (haswell E and Broadwell E) came about in 2014. 3 years and two generations of CPUs isn't bad...

 

[Dave65]

Considering the new platform, this could be the CPU that enthusiasts have been asking for - a quad core CPU with a soldered IHS.

you got to be kidding?

 

[qubit]

Good to see the HEDT variant coming out and I hope that it leads to better gaming performance.

I don't like the way the KL version is being deliberately hamstrung compared to Skylake, leading to a dilemma. This seems like a cynical move to sell the older platform, which should be obsolete by now and especially a year down the line.

 

[Prima.Vera]

So X is the new K ?

 

[thesmokingman]

s2011 has been around for years now...since 2011 in fact (X79 Sandybridge E and Ivybridge E), while s2011 v3 (haswell E and Broadwell E) came about in 2014. 3 years and two generations of CPUs isn't bad...

They're not giving you anything new to move to a new socket, its like a cash grab.

 

[wizyy]

Did Intel get performance numbers for Zen and now preparing a match or a better performer? Like Nvidia seems to do? I may be jumping to conclusion that AMD has too many leaks...

 

[TheLostSwede]

So to me this looks like a way for Intel to try and push some users to the HEDT platform by offering a "lower cost" CPU option to those that don't have $500+ to spend on a CPU at the same time as they're buying a new system (or at least motherboard and RAM). It gives them an upgrade path to go to a higher-end CPU down the road.

However, I expected at least 20 PCIe lanes on the 4 core part, 16 for the GPU plus four for NVMe or an Optane drive, but alas...

As we know, the HEDT platforms tend to have a longer lifespan than their consumer platforms, so this does make some sort of sense in that way. Is it going to sell? Who knows, but I'm sure some people will buy into it, as it looks like you're getting something a bit more "exclusive", as you get an HEDT motherboard which generally tend to be quite feature rich. However, with the 4 core part being limited in terms of PCIe lanes, you might not being able to use some of the available features...

It almost seems like Intel is experimenting to see if this market space is willing to buy into something new, but Intel clearly hasn't committed properly by providing a gimped chip that not many people are going to be interested in, as it'll most likely cost more than the i7-7700k.

 

[Vayra86]

Fucking rats.

That will be all.

 

[Parn]

a whopping 22 PCI-Express gen 3.0 downstream lanes?

Well Z170 already offers 20 lanes and Z270 is going to offer 22. So X290 (assuming this is going to be the final product name) offering 22 lanes is nothing to write home about.

 

[lorraine walsh]

Now high end is definitely the way to go.

 

[dyonoctis]

I've gotta ask: do you think that it will be possible for the cpu market to look like this : (100$ = 4 cores; 200$= 8 cores 400$=16 cores) in one or two years ? Because even if i'm eagerly waiting for zen I really doubt that amd will be super aggressive on the price if zen is as good as they are painted it to be. I'm feeling like we are going to stay in that nasty system until the end of the silicon chips.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

cha-ching. Thats the sound of AMD stocks going up. Assuming Zen does as speculated.