AMD's Zen Rumored for January 17th Launch; 8 Cores With 16 Threads for $300

[Primalz]

http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=i7+6850k&spos=3

i7 6850K here in Australia is $700
If that AMD SR7 8C/16T is same perf as the i7 for say $500 AUD im getting it.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

Did you guys who post about how amd used to price gouge actually build pc's back then?

And i'm not sure which era you mean, the one where i paid £55 for a barton xp, the one where i paid £70ish for a s939 3500, or the time i got an opteron 165 (my first dual core!) for about £90

Because you could overclock all of them to as fast as the top silly price chip (which they price matched to intels expensive units, pretty fair as they were faster)

The people that ran that AMD are long gone. Now we have the people who (re)launched the FX series to a resounding thunk after screaming at the top of their lungs how they were going to wreck faces, launched the 7970 at extreme pricing (because they could) that collapsed the very moment nVidia realized AMD had made their mid-range suddenly marketable as high end (which led to the creation of the Titan and Ti series as the High End then became the Ultra High End), and the R9 290, a card so spectacular in its failure to hit clockspeeds that they decided to market extreme heat is conducted faster because it's so extreme (along with an adjusted temperature target that was silly to allow) because they couldn't argue anything else. Oh, and then they knocked the price down because their card had to hit those silly temperatures to even approach the competition's performance. Along the way, they threw out buzzwords and copycat initiatives to try and one-up the only company that could see them in their rear-view mirror: nvidia.

And even then they couldn't ever quite catch them. At every turn, nVidia seems to be so far ahead of them it's ridiculous. Not quite as far as Intel is ahead of AMD, but it turns out that when you're trying to compete against two of the richest, cleverest, and well-run tech companies in the world you better be a wunderkind yourself. Alas, AMD lost most of its talent after years of staff layoffs and reorganizations. Sure, they rented a few big names on the cheap, but even they are mostly gone now.

Sorry. This ain't your grandpa's AMD. It ain't yer dad's AMD. It ain't even your older brother's AMD. This is the new AMD. And they have not proven themselves to be worthy of the legacy you speak of. They need a big win because they haven't had any in so long even the AMD fanboys buy Intel CPU's.

 

[Grings]

even the AMD fanboys buy Intel CPU's.

and nvidia gpu's

 

[Melvis]

Not a chance, they know from the FX-9590 that people will not pay Intel prices for an AMD CPU.

300 sounds about right for this.

What? Thats because the FX-9590 wasnt as fast as the intel's

Remember the FX-57/60's? Enough said!

 

[Ungari]

The people that ran that AMD are long gone. Now we have the people who (re)launched the FX series to a resounding thunk after screaming at the top of their lungs how they were going to wreck faces, launched the 7970 at extreme pricing (because they could) that collapsed the very moment nVidia realized AMD had made their mid-range suddenly marketable as high end (which led to the creation of the Titan and Ti series as the High End then became the Ultra High End), and the R9 290, a card so spectacular in its failure to hit clockspeeds that they decided to market extreme heat is conducted faster because it's so extreme (along with an adjusted temperature target that was silly to allow) because they couldn't argue anything else. Oh, and then they knocked the price down because their card had to hit those silly temperatures to even approach the competition's performance. Along the way, they threw out buzzwords and copycat initiatives to try and one-up the only company that could see them in their rear-view mirror: nvidia.

And even then they couldn't ever quite catch them. At every turn, nVidia seems to be so far ahead of them it's ridiculous. Not quite as far as Intel is ahead of AMD, but it turns out that when you're trying to compete against two of the richest, cleverest, and well-run tech companies in the world you better be a wunderkind yourself. Alas, AMD lost most of its talent after years of staff layoffs and reorganizations. Sure, they rented a few big names on the cheap, but even they are mostly gone now.

Sorry. This ain't your grandpa's AMD. It ain't yer dad's AMD. It ain't even your older brother's AMD. This is the new AMD. And they have not proven themselves to be worthy of the legacy you speak of. They need a big win because they haven't had any in so long even the AMD fanboys buy Intel CPU's.

You have people like Scott Wasson and other top talent working at Team Red now.

 

[Rockarola]

This, I believe, is the gist of the situation. Intel's pricing as it is gives them huge margins on each processor sold. That, and the fact that they already produce processors with more than 6 cores, means that Intel can, in a relative time-frame, strengthen their lineup by moving it a little down the scale and accommodating 6-core and even 8-core CPUs at the same pricing as AMD, should the need arise.

If AMDs product are competitive there will be only one winner...the consumers.
The CPU market, at the present, is a monopoly, because AMD is a competitor in theory only.
If AMD comes up with a competitive product, in any price range, Intel will have to adjust price and/or performance...either way we'll win.

They would release after Xmas. Who skips the holiday season? Oh wait amd a day late and dollar short as usual. Oh well hopefully it's super competitive and slams 6900k prices into the ground.

How many times have you had a CPU as a Christmas present? (any number above zero will make me wildly jealous...and a little suspicious)

 

[Jism]

If that CPU matches a 1000$ CPU of intel and is being offered as 300$ AMD has a winner. Simular as the RX480 which got sold out for WEEKS.

Both business and consumer market are the ones profitting from AMD's actions. I'd like to upgrade my Vishera platform as well in the future (2 more months) and run a kick-ass AMD platform which does EVERYTHING.

Exciting times. Cant wait for Vega with HBM2 as well.

 

[cdawall]

How many times have you had a CPU as a Christmas present? (any number above zero will make me wildly jealous...and a little suspicious)

I'm in the tech world I have gotten a whole pc once as a gift. (my first pc) that being said I have built dozens for gifts in fact I already did on Xmas gift pc this year. It's not uncommon.

 

[TheGuruStud]

I'm in the tech world I have gotten a whole pc once as a gift. (my first pc) that being said I have built dozens for gifts in fact I already did on Xmas gift pc this year. It's not uncommon.

It's uncommon if I'm not getting paid.
Gifts? I don't even know what that means XD

 

[efikkan]

I'd hate to burst everyone's bubble, but aren't we jumping to conclusions about value for the money here? The vendors always cherry-pick the benchmarks making their product look as good as possible, so when AMD picks a benchmark where Zen will be comparable, it means Zen will be up to the performance level of Intel. That leaves the question; how far off will the typical performance be? 5%? 10%? 20%? That will be the question determining the value of Zen.

 

[FYFI13]

5GHz on LN2? Sorry if anyone else posted this already, i didn't go through all 3 pages of comments. Anyways, that's at least sad.

 

[basco]

i hear you FYFI13

 

[cyneater]

8 cores 16 threads only if it scaled to 2 sockets it would be nice ..

 

[suraswami]

Hopefully motherboard manufacturers don't screw up this time!!

 

[sutyi]

and nvidia gpu's

AMD Fan Boy or not, firstly we are gamers here I think. I've been rocking pretty much only AMD CPUs after parting with my Tualatin core Pentium III wayback in the day, right up to the pretty underwhelming FX series.

We are looking at the best bang for our buck and when the opposition has that we usually don't hesitate to buy from them.

I probably would have an RX 480 8GB in my rig right now, but I've bought a month old GTX 1060 off from a collegue of mine at a pretty good discount.

I think if AMD Zen will be competitive, a 6C/12T or even a 8C/16T could be a nice upgrade path for many gamers. One can only hope.

 

[AsRock]

Oh AMD please pull it off this time! I need change already and the pricing is right too imo..

But at that pricing makes me worried.

 

[Frick]

I'm in the tech world I have gotten a whole pc once as a gift. (my first pc) that being said I have built dozens for gifts in fact I already did on Xmas gift pc this year. It's not uncommon.

Yeah but you were the dude who said the GDDR5 GT730's only were like $30 a pop because you forgot how normal people had it and worked and purchased things. I wouldn't trust you (or the dave from Canada) with money or anything related to it if my life depended on it.

 

[cdawall]

Yeah but you were the dude who said the GDDR5 GT730's only were like $30 a pop because you forgot how normal people had it and worked and purchased things. I wouldn't trust you (or the dave from Canada) with money or anything related to it if my life depended on it.

Yea don't use my pricing to build things I am a terrible person for that

 

[ensabrenoir]

What? Thats because the FX-9590 wasnt as fast as the intel's

Remember the FX-57/60's? Enough said!

..........actually ......no and im trying really hard........

 

[hapkiman]

As I've said before, I am cautiously optimistic about Zen. AMD really disappointed me when I was running a Phenom II x6 1100T rig and was waiting for Bulldozer. They made BD sound like it was going to be unbelievable. Well, it was. Unbelievably average, and my 1100T was able to OC much better and beat it in almost anything I did. I really hope they get it right this time with Zen, because it looks like Kaby Lake will be pretty sweet.

 

[sutyi]

..........actually ......no and im trying really hard........

If memory serves me right those were unlocked Athlon 64's, no?

 

[Grings]

unlocked multipliers

which were completely unnecessary as you could overclock higher on fsb

 

[eidairaman1]

As I've said before, I am cautiously optimistic about Zen. AMD really disappointed me when I was running a Phenom II x6 1100T rig and was waiting for Bulldozer. They made BD sound like it was going to be unbelievable. Well, it was. Unbelievably average, and my 1100T was able to OC much better and beat it in almost anything I did. I really hope they get it right this time with Zen, because it looks like Kaby Lake will be pretty sweet.

Vishera fixed many flaws of BD, pretty good part, mine wasnt cherry picked either.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Looking forward to reviews as and when it does appear, I've been sitting on this i7 920/X58 combo for so long now, if this performs and at an extremely competitive price then I'll happily jump ship.

 

[Melvis]

..........actually ......no and im trying really hard........

If memory serves me right those were unlocked Athlon 64's, no?

They were AMD's top tier CPU's from 2005 and they cost $1000+ each back then. Yes they were unlocked.