Crytek's Woes Not Finished - Renowned Developer Not Paying Wages Again

Batou1986 · Dec 14, 2016

>According to Kotaku :laugh:

kn00tcn · Dec 14, 2016

Ungari said:
Semantics? He chose Crytek's game engine and licensed support.

interfacing with an engine & modifying it yourself is quite unrelated to what the company of that engine does to its people or own game projects, how is that semantics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CryEngine_games if this chart is correct (version 4 specifically), it's fairly safe to assume evolve & everybody's gone to the rapture had no real issues with the engine, they launched on multiple platforms, they werent broken

Ungari · Dec 15, 2016

kn00tcn said:
interfacing with an engine & modifying it yourself is quite unrelated to what the company of that engine does to its people or own game projects, how is that semantics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CryEngine_games if this chart is correct (version 4 specifically), it's fairly safe to assume evolve & everybody's gone to the rapture had no real issues with the engine, they launched on multiple platforms, they werent broken

It was argumentative and puerile semantics to point out the difference between Crytek and the Cryengine.

rtwjunkie · Dec 15, 2016

Ungari said:
It was argumentative and puerile semantics to point out the difference between Crytek and the Cryengine.

No it's not argumentative at all to point out the difference. To say they are using Crytek has an entirely different meaning than using their engine, which is called Cryengine, and signifies two entirely different levels of involvement: balls-deep with Crytek, or none, with Cryengine.

OneMoar · Dec 15, 2016

everybody that made crytek crytek left after the first round of no wages
just stop crytek just stop

eidairaman1 · Dec 15, 2016

DeathtoGnomes said:
"immature ecosystem" is an understatement. I agree tho I think it its pretty stupid to push out 2 games instead of just one and keep a few eggs in the basket.

If a companies management sucks, they wind up bankrupt. Sears is headed for that path.

Solaris17 · Dec 16, 2016

Am I the only one legitimately dumbfounded they have these issues to begin with? Crytek games regardless of what individuals may think of them have all been AAA hits. how the f@#$ are they broke?

OneMoar · Dec 16, 2016

Solaris17 said:
Am I the only one legitimately dumbfounded they have these issues to begin with? Crytek games regardless of what individuals may think of them have all been AAA hits. how the f@#$ are they broke?

because they sunk a lot of money into that abomination that was gface/warface and free2play non-sense
and it was a turd from launch

kn00tcn · Dec 16, 2016

Ungari said:
It was argumentative and puerile semantics to point out the difference between Crytek and the Cryengine.

what? i JUST explained it very clearly

once they have the engine, they have it! it doesnt matter if crytek shuts down or doesnt answer their emails, they are not required to talk to the company at all, they have the source code of a whole engine

Solaris17 said:
Am I the only one legitimately dumbfounded they have these issues to begin with? Crytek games regardless of what individuals may think of them have all been AAA hits. how the f@#$ are they broke?

that's funny, yesterday i was on an article about famous celebrities (musicians/actors/etc) that are homeless

why do past hits matter? the games cost millions to make, so they need high price sales to pay that off... but then how will you fund the next project? with every release is the chance of failure... when bizarre launched their last game, activision shut the entire studio down since there was no new project even though that studio is one of the most highly regarded ones, EA did similar when they shut down the saboteur devs on the day of its launch while it had a bug that crashed for anyone NOT using crossfire (eventually fixed in a 'beta' patch a few days later)

OneMoar said:
because they sunk a lot of money into that abomination that was gface/warface and free2play non-sense
and it was a turd from launch

i tried warface for a few hours, really started enjoying it but it could be better if it felt better, there are also some sort of long term fans for it & it keeps getting free content updates

do you have some kind of vendetta against f2p? isnt warface one of the most successful games? i'm not going to blindly blame a format for anything, good games come in free/paid/subscription formats the same as bad games, management & marketing also have an effect

Solaris17 · Dec 16, 2016

kn00tcn said:
that's funny, yesterday i was on an article about famous celebrities (musicians/actors/etc) that are homeless

Not sure how thats funny. Not even sure how that remark is relevant. It may have been that way at first, but this isnt some subsidary. They MADE the engine they make the games off of.

Ungari · Dec 16, 2016

kn00tcn said:
what? i JUST explained it very clearly

once they have the engine, they have it! it doesnt matter if crytek shuts down or doesnt answer their emails, they are not required to talk to the company at all, they have the source code of a whole engine

My comment was not directed towards you.

kn00tcn · Dec 16, 2016

Solaris17 said:
Not sure how thats funny. Not even sure how that remark is relevant. It may have been that way at first, but this isnt some subsidary. They MADE the engine they make the games off of.

i'm using the word 'funny' similar to your 'dumbfounded'

basically saying, successful celebs have gone homeless the same way successful (or well received) game studios have failed

rtwjunkie · Dec 16, 2016

Ungari said:
My comment was not directed towards you.

He knows that. He's telling you the same thing I am. To say Crytek is the problem with SC is to say they are deeply involved.

In point of fact, they merely licensed their Cryengine game engine. No involvement. So no, not semantics. You can't say Crytek is part of SC troubles. The closes tyou can come is the game engine used (Cryengine), without any involvement by Crytek.

OneMoar · Dec 16, 2016

warface is a awful game its mediocre and generic and what really killed it was the graphics coming from crytek a lot of people expected it to look like crysis and what we got with a low-effort render that looks like a DX9 title from 5 years ago

and the whole gface platform is just plain crap ulgy clunky didn't work very well when it worked
in short NOPE

Frick · Dec 16, 2016

ShurikN said:
Why? Apart from graphics all of the Crysis games were mediocre at best. A 4th Crysis game wouldn't save them.

IMO, they very much were not. Havent played the third though. The first was arguably great, even. At least on the hardest difficulty.

bug · Dec 16, 2016

Ungari said:
The base of Star Citizen is a modified Crytek engine.
There are many developers who have stated that they should have chosen Unreal.

And if they chose Unreal, several developers would have wanted Crytek.
The grass is always greener on the other side

GC_PaNzerFIN · Dec 17, 2016

Can't afford to pay wages.
Makes more free to play games.
Still can't afford to pay wages.

Who could have guessed?

64K · Dec 20, 2016

More bad news from Crytek. They are closing their studios in Hungary, Bulgaria, South Korea, China, and Turkey.
They will still keep their Frankfurt and Kiev studios running though.

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/cryte...ore-strengths-of-developing-innovative-games/

Ungari · Dec 20, 2016

64K said:
More bad news from Crytek. They are closing their studios in Hungary, Bulgaria, South Korea, China, and Turkey.
They will still keep their Frankfurt and Kiev studios running though.

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/cryte...ore-strengths-of-developing-innovative-games/

Don't worry, I understand they can outsource all their work to RSI/CIG as they aren't busy developing any projects.

bug · Dec 20, 2016

64K said:
More bad news from Crytek. They are closing their studios in Hungary, Bulgaria, South Korea, China, and Turkey.
They will still keep their Frankfurt and Kiev studios running though.

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/cryte...ore-strengths-of-developing-innovative-games/

What's "developing innovative games" supposed to mean?

64K · Dec 21, 2016

bug said:
What's "developing innovative games" supposed to mean?

Well, I ran it through Google PR Translator and it came back "We're up shit creek without a paddle."

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