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[VLB]

I think this could be the problem. Google the CPUs and chipset and look at the Intel pages on them, which should list compatibility. It's quite possible that CPUs which fit the same socket won't work with a different chipset.

Also check the mobo maker's website for the latest BIOS and update it, if possible.

And finally, yes, it's quite possible that you've been sold two duff CPUs unfortunately, especially if they're off eBay from a private seller.

Thank you for the response. I have visited the official ASRock support site a while back but they stopped updating it a while ago. This board has had many unofficially supported CPU’s and custom BIOSes since ASRock abandoned it.

 

[VLB]

If I recall correctly, the q6700 should work on that board. Hopefully you've visted the OP where lemonadesoda nicely organized all the BIOS?

I thought so too. It’s been a while since I’ve read all the way through this thread, but it has been a great source of info about this board. I remember others mentioned success running the q6700 but I forget if it was the G0 model.

 

[VLB]

Have you tried with bios 1.70. I found that 1.71 and 1.72 (the unofficial ones) tend to be somewhat finicky, although I never had a problem booting with them.

Mine runs with a QX6800 with bios 1.70. I tried overclocking but couldn't get more than 3.2Ghz somewhat stable so I decided to keept things stock at the end in order to better preserve the board (they are a pain to get a hold of nowadays).

Very interesting. I've been running the 1.72 for the past 3 or so years. I remember I had 1.70 installed at one point but it did not identify the e5800 correctly, though it still worked. I will try some other BIOSes when I get home.

 

[dorsetknob]

PLEASE IF YOUR REPLYING TO MORE THAN ONE PERSON USE THE EDIT/MULTI POST BUTTONS

 

[TRWOV]

Very interesting. I've been running the 1.72 for the past 3 or so years. I remember I had 1.70 installed at one point but it did not identify the e5800 correctly, though it still worked. I will try some other BIOSes when I get home.

1.70 worked fine with my Q6700, QX6700 and QX6800. E5800 is a newer core (Wolfdale) so that one might need 1.72 but with the Q6700 1.70 is fine.

 

[VLB]

Well now it’s looking like my board may have died all together.

After I swapped in my trusty e5800 and returned the mode jumper to “normal” the video returns, but only POSTs as far as the “Dual Channel Memory Mode Enabled” line and stays there. I can still CTRL-ALT-DEL at this point to reboot, but it gets stuck in the same spot.

I’ve tried with just one RAM stick and POST to the same line, except it reads “Single Channel” instead. I tried disconnecting all drives, taking the CMOS battery out, swapping in an old P4 CPU, an older video card but all the same result. Unless the problem is with my PSU, which I haven't switched, I fear I may have killed my board.

 

[TRWOV]

what happens if you try to boot with no RAM?

 

[VLB]

what happens if you try to boot with no RAM?

I get three intervals of 4 quick beeps from the PC speaker, pause for about 2 seconds, and then it repeats. The power LED stays constant and no video card activity.

 

[Azrael5]

I'm using this mainboard just now I've problems when 4 dimms are used: the system hangs issuing 2 single followed by 5 beeps. No problems alternating 2 dimms no problems when 3 dimms are plugged.

EDIT: solved moving the dimms from the several slots.

Further problem: USB bootable... I get J message and the lightning cursor without any possibility to access the USB dos data or the possibility to boot the operating system installed into it. Is there a solution?

 

[TRWOV]

I'm using this mainboard just now I've problems when 4 dimms are used: the system hangs issuing 2 single followed by 5 beeps. No problems alternating 2 dimms no problems when 3 dimms are plugged.

EDIT: solved moving the dimms from the several slots.

Further problem: USB bootable... I get J message and the lightning cursor without any possibility to access the USB dos data or the possibility to boot the operating system installed into it. Is there a solution?

I've never been able to boot anything from USB on mine except external floppy/DVD drives. I guess USB stick booting just doesn't work, I also get the blank screen with a cursor and that's it.

@VLB, I just asked to know if the RAM slots were good. I would try cleaning them with a toothbrush and isopropil alcohol (rubbing alcohol) and also clean the RAM contacts as well. Also, I had to do a lot of RAM swapping on mine too as Azrael5 just said.

 

[Azrael5]

Well to know, thanks for the reply. Ok now another question: I've enabled the bios option "bypass access" which runs a special feature provided by asrock unable to understand what really it does, except that it hides other ram options as SPD. So what is the best choice to do for perfomance intent, to enable bypass access, or enable SPD?!

 

[TRWOV]

There's not a lot of information about it. The manual just states

"Bypass Access:

This technology can provide users with the function of increasing the system performance. The default value is [Disabled]. It will only work when you use FSB800 CPU and DDR400 DRAM at the same time; otherwise, this option will be hidden."

I don't recall exactly what it did on mine but I think it just forced 1T command rate.

I know that "Flexibility" forces memory to run at 3:2 (266Mhz) CL 2.5 and is often a necessity when using FSB1066 CPUs. If you have CL2.5 memory I would use SPD.

 

[Azrael5]

There's not a lot of information about it. The manual just states

"Bypass Access:

This technology can provide users with the function of increasing the system performance. The default value is [Disabled]. It will only work when you use FSB800 CPU and DDR400 DRAM at the same time; otherwise, this option will be hidden."

I don't recall exactly what it did on mine but I think it just forced 1T command rate.

I know that "Flexibility" forces memory to run at 3:2 (266Mhz) CL 2.5 and is often a necessity when using FSB1066 CPUs. If you have CL2.5 memory I would use SPD.

Interesting, however this function, I mean bypass access increase the timings of ram 2 or 3 values in confront of SPD timings... so I don't know if this feature affects other benefits of the whole system as the chipset timings (chipset).

 

[Azrael5]

ultra dma 6 doesn't work on this motherboard. bios specific sata page shows usltra dma mode 6 available while post page shows ultra dma mode 5 enabled for the sata hard drive.

 

[eidairaman1]

ultra dma 6 doesn't work on this motherboard. bios specific sata page shows usltra dma mode 6 available while post page shows ultra dma mode 5 enabled for the sata hard drive.

That means the drive only goes up to 5. The board has max of 6.

 

[rtwjunkie]

That means the drive only goes up to 5. The board has max of 6.

Correct. The most I ever saw was 5 for this board.

 

[Azrael5]

That means the drive only goes up to 5. The board has max of 6.

IT's not the drive it's the bios or the chipset limitation ICH5.

 

[Azrael5]

By the way, I can set UDMA 6 mode in the bios page but after rebooting POST shows only UDMA 5 that's strange.

 

[Azrael5]

My HDD is the WD caviar blue sataII (300MB/s).

 

[qubit]

By the way, I can set UDMA 6 mode in the bios page but after rebooting POST shows only UDMA 5 that's strange.

Perhaps the drive only supports UDMA 5? Google the specs of the drive.

 

[Azrael5]

Perhaps the drive only supports UDMA 5? Google the specs of the drive.

No, I had it operative in another motherboard getting UDMA 6 enabled besides it is the WD CAVIAR BLUE 500GB SATA II I've plugged the cap into the 5-6 jumper so to match the sata I specification.

 

[rtwjunkie]

You are NOT going to get a drive to actually operate at UDMA 6 on this board. I tried a lot of them. The real expert is @TRWOV , maybe he can illuminate it a little more.

 

[qubit]

You are NOT going to get a drive to actually operate at UDMA 6 on this board. I tried a lot of them. The real expert is @TRWOV , maybe he can illuminate it a little more.

^^Azrael, there's your answer. No point in trying any more as it's completely futile.

No, I had it operative in another motherboard getting UDMA 6 enabled besides it is the WD CAVIAR BLUE 500GB SATA II I've plugged the cap into the 5-6 jumper so to match the sata I specification.

 

[Azrael5]

You are NOT going to get a drive to actually operate at UDMA 6 on this board. I tried a lot of them. The real expert is @TRWOV , maybe he can illuminate it a little more.

Exactly. I've just tried without the cap into the pins but the hard drive misses the UDMA 6 (I've also charged the optimal default config into the BIOS in vain). Perhaps I should CLEAR the CMOS.

 

[qubit]

Perhaps I should CLEAR the CMOS.

So you're still hoping, despite having it explained otherwise to you?