Intel Core i7-7700K vs 6700K: 22 Games, RX 480 & GTX 1080

[Solaris17]

Great review. Not excited for the generation at all.

 

[Jo3yization]

I just signed up to ask why this article was done in percentages as opposed to raw FPS results??

The percentage values are a very obscure way of showing a performance difference when "3%" at 1080p vs "5%" at 4K are two completely different things.

The conclusion even makes a point to state "There are games in which the GeForce GTX 1080 benefits by as much as 5% from an i7-7700K overclocked to 4.90 GHz. In "Mafia III", you get a performance gain of 5.8% at 4K resolution." - At 4.5ghz the 6700k is at 5.4% & 7700k at 6.1%, a 0.7% difference??? Hang on a second.

The test setup in this MAFIA III review shows the gtx 1080 + 6700k@4.5ghz performing at roughly 32fps. So lets just use that as our baseline seeing as no FPS results are given in the article & add 0.7%;; we get 0.224fps. 2% would be 0.64fps. - So.. Very insignificant.

But the article seems to be trying to portray some benefit to the 7700k, at least going by the mafia III 4K performance that seemed to be worth mentioning in the last paragraph but then goes on to state that there really isn't any significant difference worth mentioning which is kindof contradictory lol. Or am I missing something. The mafia III 4K res 4.5ghz 7700k result is also better than the 4.9ghz result too. /confused

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Good to see my ivy i5 will have another 3-4 years left in it.

 

[ensabrenoir]

.....honestly thats Intel's real problem..........their chips are too good. You could easily stay on one from 3 to 5 years.

 

[ShurikN]

Instead of zero percent ipc increase I'll think of it as a zero percent ipc decrease ... but the stock clocks are sweet for those who run bios defaults

Actually I've read an article, before the release of Kaby (twas like a preview), where on same clocks in synthetics/real world/games, 7700k has an IPC gain of -0.4%.
Thats right, negative gains.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

Gains from Skylake are rather.... tiny...

 

[eidairaman1]

.....honestly thats Intel's real problem..........their chips are too good. You could easily stay on one from 3 to 5 years.

they are sandbagging

 

[RealNeil]

Thanks for the good review. Waiting for a little longer is looking like the right thing to do now.

they are sandbagging

Yeah, I think so too.

 

[eidairaman1]

Thanks for the good review. Waiting for a little longer is looking like the right thing to do now.



Yeah, I think so too.

Your Rig is Perfectly Fine, Same with Mine lol

 

[GhostRyder]

I am speechless... Well at least one good thing comes with the Kaby Lake chips, the unlocked i3.

 

[bubbleawsome]

So now we get tick-tock-ᶜᶫᶦᶜᵏ I guess?

 

[Nergal]

Pure marketing. Intel just wanted something "new" to compete with AMD.
Since it´s speed is about the same as the previous generation, most likely, that is the speed AMD will hit too.
Else they would have put more juice into it.

Intel´s logic:
1) I also need to release something at the same time AMD does.
2) It doesn´t need to be more powerfull. People will prefer Intel if the speed is the same anyway.

 

[Chaitanya]

How is virtually 0% considered nominal?

Dont forget these CPUs come with higher clock speeds out of the box compared to 6th gen CPUs. So on same clock speeds both have 0% improvement but at higher clocks only nominal improvement.

 

[btarunr]

Horrendous. That is all. To actually release this chip is a seriously ridiculous marketing move.

Hey - last year we sold you a ham and cheese sandwich. Well, we've made some improvements and now we're selling you a cheese and ham sandwich.

Call of Duty: Core Processor.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

socket 1366 ........FTW.

My (nearly) 7 year old X5670 runs with 6 cores and 12 threads @ 4.5ghz. Aaaaaaaand it only cost 60 quid.



Cinebench R15

7700k @4.5............998
X5670 @4,5..........1035

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/01/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-review/

My X5670

http://hwbot.org/submission/3095126_capslockstuck_cinebench___r15_xeon_x5670_1035_cb/


@W1zzard
can you run the CPUZ bench with 6700k and 7700k please.

 

[W1zzard]

can you run the CPUZ bench with 6700k and 7700k please.

The test setup has been dismantled. I'm rebenching all cards with new hardware, latest drivers and new games now

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

The test setup has been dismantled. I'm rebenching all cards with new hardware, latest drivers and new games now

sounds like great fun....you should make vids.

 

[EarthDog]

There won't be a difference at the same clocks.

 

[geon2k2]

ohhh my 6600K will stay for a while ... unless i decide to go i7 ... and even there, "if" the 7700K is at "a la" intel pricing and make the 6700K drop a little ... the 6700K would be a slightly better choice "if"

that Skylake is basically brand new. I'm thinking my Haswell which is almost 4 years old by now, will last me for a while longer
Not to mention the guys which still have the 2500K released 6 years ago (Jan 2011 !!!) and which is still a decent CPU for games, while it was also a monster overclock-er.

 

[W1zzard]

There won't be a difference at the same clocks.

I really liked your review at overclock.com

 

[Drinnan]

.....honestly thats Intel's real problem..........their chips are too good. You could easily stay on one from 3 to 5 years.

Only 3-5?
I managed 8 years with my Q6600 @ 3ghz until I upgraded to the 6700k in April.
Even then, my main reason for upgrading was the wife bought me fallout 4 and my mobo only had 4gb ddr2. Wasn't worth spending a lot of money trying to get low density 2x4gb ddr2 sticks that would work on my mobo.

Anyway back to the point, I was worried that the 7th gen would bring much higher clock speeds but seeing as my 6700k runs daily on 4.6ghz I'm okay with my choice, temps are still low in Scotland here. Got my rad plumbed outside in the shade and when the sun goes down I'm idling at 5C

 

[EarthDog]

socket 1366 ........FTW.

My (nearly) 7 year old X5670 runs with 6 cores and 12 threads @ 4.5ghz. Aaaaaaaand it only cost 60 quid.



Cinebench R15

7700k @4.5............998
X5670 @4,5..........1035

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/01/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-review/

My X5670

http://hwbot.org/submission/3095126_capslockstuck_cinebench___r15_xeon_x5670_1035_cb/

Is it really fair to compare a 7 year old CPU's price today, versus a brand new one? If you want to play that game. This is a $300 processor versus a $1400+ Xeon when both are new.

And those results are great if you play Cinebench/Render. Otherwise... that IPC is lacking (by like what, 35%+?) and the glass ceiling in games are real with midrange cards on up.

I mean that's nice to see such a small dataset and smile about the CPU you have, but the big picture is decidedly different in anything that uses 8 threads or less... and again, apples and oranges.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Is it really fair to compare a 7 year old CPU's price today, versus a brand new one? If you want to play that game. This is a $300 processor versus a $1400+ when both are new.

And that's great if you play Cinebench/Render. Otherwise... that IPC is lacking and the glass ceiling in games are real.

I mean that's nice to see such a small dataset and cheer, but the big picture is decidedly different in anything that uses 8 threads or less.

I know........it makes me smile though...


Heres a better comparison

X5670

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-7700k-processor-review-desktop-kaby-lake,10.html

 

[yogurt_21]

cpu is about the lowest on my upgrade priorities. Still new chipsets typically drive down costs of old ones (typically, skylake didn't really drop the prices of z97 chipsets) so hopefully that happens this time and I can upgrade to a better mobo/memory set along with a new gpu this summer. That is unless that doesn't happen and z97 is still in high demand at which point I will be quite upset.

 

[Diverge]

Well after using a 2500K for like 5 years, it looks like I'll be getting something similar out of 6700K. So a new GPU every year, and new CPU every 5 years...