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Logitech G403 Prodigy RGB Mouse - User Review

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First thing that stands out here has a G700s upgrade is that while its smaller its a better fit, despite my large caveman hands. Somehow this shape lets me use claw grip or palm grip, and switch between them easily while gaming without even noticing. (i use claw for fast movements/RTS and palm for sniping, basically)

This mouse comes in wired and wireless versions, i bought the wireless. Since my phone camera isnt the best, i'll use googled images for most of these.



Cordless version uses generic micro USB, but comes with a very strange winged cable and a 'micro to normal USB' adaptor for some reason, in place of a traditional USB extension lead.





The weirdest part about this mouse is the little door for the optional 10g weight - it feels like this is where the battery belongs, but its just a MAGNETIC! door that can be pushed open to fit this tiny weight. I find this a little strange, as a single 10g option hardly feels customisable and would barely be noticed by anyone.
What i did notice was the incredibly overpowered magnets, which i fear could be detrimental to a laptops hard drive, if stored closely together

Lets demonstrate by sticking my giant heavy screwdriver onto the tiny little magnet, and FLAILING WILDLY!




The RGB lighting is pretty gimmicky as is pretty much all RGB hardware (exception of keyboards, where it serves a purpose). The Logitech software is pretty good at letting you save per game profiles on the PC, or upto 3 profiles on the mouse (switching via the button below the scroll wheel) and all profiles have seperate RGB settings - so you could have it turn on for a game, and off while at the desktop or vice versa.
(see screenshot down below the bold text for a demo of this, didnt want to show it twice)

LED's are really bright when viewed straight on, but the mouse scroll wheel LED dims very quickly on an angle. Seems a little strange, but probably done to not blind other gamers nearby. You can colour and disable the LED's seperately, and the software shows extended battery life for doing so (adds about 4 hours to disable the G logo lighting, for example)


The mouse does power down after a brief while when the PC is asleep or turned off, and at default settings goes into a rainbow 'demo mode' at full brightness. This may cause gay unicorns to burst through the window and have a dance rave, the undocumented fix is to set all three profiles on the mouse the same with your preference for lighting - it seems having them disabled loads the 'default' demo lighting settings when the PC is off.

TL;DR: If your logitech mouse RGB lighting goes back to default on sleep, hibernate or turning the PC off, enable all 3 profiles, tweak them all to your lighting preferences, and then disable them again.



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Pros:
*Lightweight, works for multiple grip types
*RGB lighting can be tweaked or outright disabled
*Long battery life (average 3 days, with very good idle when PC is off), with detailed battery estimates in optional software
*Settings can be saved to the mouse - software only needed for setup.

Cons:
Software can be a little odd (such as disabled profiles being loaded when the PC was asleep)
Built in low level format tool rather scary for a laptop gamer.

Score: 4.5/5

-9001/5 if you're paranoid about that supermagnet. In theory it should be easy to buy replacement mice feet, void your warranty and remove the magnet but logitech really should have thought ahead about people throwing this in a bag with a laptop, or with a portable 2.5" hard drive


 

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What i did notice was the incredibly overpowered magnets, which i fear could be detrimental to a laptops hard drive, if stored closely together
Hard drives are heavily shielded for this not to be a worry. There are probably stronger magnets in the drive's motor. If floppy disks were still used, that might be a problem.

My problem with that mouse is it is contoured. While I am right handed, I use my mouse in my left hand.
Pros:
*Long battery life (average 3 days, with very good idle when PC is off),
:eek: How is 3 days considered long? That's a show stopper there for me. I have several wireless Microsoft and Logitech mice here and I typically get 6 months before I have to replace or recharge the batteries.

That's not a "Pro". That's a serious "Con"!
 

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Hard drives are heavily shielded for this not to be a worry. There are probably stronger magnets in the drive's motor. If floppy disks were still used, that might be a problem.

My problem with that mouse is it is contoured. While I am right handed, I use my mouse in my left hand.

:eek: How is 3 days considered long? That's a show stopper there for me. I have several wireless Microsoft and Logitech mice here and I typically get 6 months before I have to replace or recharge the batteries.

That's not a "Pro". That's a serious "Con"!

i've corrupted a hard drive with a magnetic phone case before, this is much stronger than that magnet. G900 is the ambidextrous version of the mouse.

as for battery life, its 3 days of *use* - mice that give longer life, also tend to be far worse for gaming.
 
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Logitech G403 Wireless

First thing that stands out here has a G700s upgrade is that while its smaller its a better fit, despite my large caveman hands. Somehow this shape lets me use claw grip or palm grip, and switch between them easily while gaming without even noticing. (i use claw for fast movements/RTS and palm for sniping, basically)

This mouse comes in wired and wireless versions, i bought the wireless. Since my phone camera isnt the best, i'll use googled images for most of these.



Cordless version uses generic micro USB, but comes with a very strange winged cable and a 'micro to normal USB' adaptor for some reason, in place of a traditional USB extension lead.





The weirdest part about this mouse is the little door for the optional 10g weight - it feels like this is where the battery belongs, but its just a MAGNETIC! door that can be pushed open to fit this tiny weight. I find this a little strange, as a single 10g option hardly feels customisable and would barely be noticed by anyone.
What i did notice was the incredibly overpowered magnets, which i fear could be detrimental to a laptops hard drive, if stored closely together

Lets demonstrate by sticking my giant heavy screwdriver onto the tiny little magnet, and FLAILING WILDLY!




The RGB lighting is pretty gimmicky as is pretty much all RGB hardware (exception of keyboards, where it serves a purpose). The Logitech software is pretty good at letting you save per game profiles on the PC, or upto 3 profiles on the mouse (switching via the button below the scroll wheel) and all profiles have seperate RGB settings - so you could have it turn on for a game, and off while at the desktop or vice versa.
(see screenshot down below the bold text for a demo of this, didnt want to show it twice)

LED's are really bright when viewed straight on, but the mouse scroll wheel LED dims very quickly on an angle. Seems a little strange, but probably done to not blind other gamers nearby. You can colour and disable the LED's seperately, and the software shows extended battery life for doing so (adds about 4 hours to disable the G logo lighting, for example)


The mouse does power down after a brief while when the PC is asleep or turned off, and at default settings goes into a rainbow 'demo mode' at full brightness. This may cause gay unicorns to burst through the window and have a dance rave, the undocumented fix is to set all three profiles on the mouse the same with your preference for lighting - it seems having them disabled loads the 'default' demo lighting settings when the PC is off.

TL;DR: If your logitech mouse RGB lighting goes back to default on sleep, hibernate or turning the PC off, enable all 3 profiles, tweak them all to your lighting preferences, and then disable them again.



Mussels scoring system:

Pros:
*Lightweight, works for multiple grip types
*RGB lighting can be tweaked or outright disabled
*Long battery life (average 3 days, with very good idle when PC is off), with detailed battery estimates in optional software
*Settings can be saved to the mouse - software only needed for setup.

Cons:
Software can be a little odd (such as disabled profiles being loaded when the PC was asleep)
Built in low level format tool rather scary for a laptop gamer.

Score: 4.5/5

-9001/5 if you're paranoid about that supermagnet. In theory it should be easy to buy replacement mice feet, void your warranty and remove the magnet but logitech really should have thought ahead about people throwing this in a bag with a laptop, or with a portable 2.5" hard drive
1st off :laugh: gay unicorns

2nd is it wireless or not? I'm in the market for a new smaller wireless mouse for my daughter but I see the battery life window that you posted in that pic but I also see a detachable U.S.B Cable

Sorry I'm on iPhone and that post is about 15 screens long for me right now

Nevermind, i answered my own question once i got home.not that it matters,

to anyone else wondering, there is 2 types, Both Wired, and Wired/Wireless, the former is around $50usd, and the latter is around $80 usd, releases on the 7th of Jan.
 
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1st off :laugh: gay unicorns

2nd is it wireless or not? I'm in the market for a new smaller wireless mouse for my daughter but I see the battery life window that you posted in that pic but I also see a detachable U.S.B Cable

Sorry I'm on iPhone and that post is about 15 screens long for me right now

Nevermind, i answered my own question once i got home.not that it matters,

to anyone else wondering, there is 2 types, Both Wired, and Wired/Wireless, the former is around $50usd, and the latter is around $80 usd, releases on the 7th of Jan.

There is two models of the mouse, one wireless one 'hybrid' (wireless, but works in wired when plugged in to charge)

I put my PC to sleep and when it defaulted back to the rainbow it lit up the whole room rather brightly at 1am.
 
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Logitech makes good mice (and that mouse wheel tilt to go back/forward thing is genius) but they really need to fix their double-clicking issues.

Also, if it is what I think it is, that strange 'micro to normal USB' adaptor is for use with smartphones/tablets via USB OTG.
 

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Logitech makes good mice (and that mouse wheel tilt to go back/forward thing is genius) but they really need to fix their double-clicking issues.

Also, if it is what I think it is, that strange 'micro to normal USB' adaptor is for use with smartphones/tablets via USB OTG.

its not an OTG adaptor, its so you can use their strange stock cable (modified to not fit any other device for no good reason) and connect the wireless receiver to it.

The idea is to encourage peopele to run the USB cable from your PC to your mousepad, and alternate between using it to charge the mouse and run wired, and then plug the adaptor back in for wireless thats really close to the mouse.

Everyone i know with a cordless logitech leaves the adaptor in 24/7, and uses a micro USB charger from their phone.
 
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Nice review ?, did i miss the part if the battery is fixed or not ?.
 

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Nice review ?, did i miss the part if the battery is fixed or not ?.

battery is internal, and not meant to be user-serviced.

speaking of battery i just hit 'yellow' on the mouse wheel, showing that i have 15 hours of use left. doing days better than my G700s already.

For context: At 4PM i had 17 hours of usage left, at midnight i have 15 hours left. I've been at the PC for more than 4 hours, on and off.
Logitech are showing 'worst case' battery life, while the mouse delivers more.
 
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i've corrupted a hard drive with a magnetic phone case before,
Then I would suggest the drive's housing was otherwise compromised because it is a myth that a tiny magnet like that (no matter how powerful) can affect the data on a hard drive. As I noted, there are several magnets already inside the drive - in the drive motor and the stepper motor for the R/W head (and that's a super magnet, BTW).

But knowing you won't believe me:
Can I erase sensitive data on an old hard drive with [rare Earth super] Neodymium Magnets?
With the hard drive running, we were not able to disrupt the contents of the drive at all. 100% of the files were completely intact and accurate.
Can a Magnet Zap a Hard Drive as Depicted on Breaking Bad
Good "Science Fiction"
Will a magnet destroy your smartphone or hard drive? We ask the experts
They placed large magnets either side of a running hard drive until mechanical rubbing sounds were audible, indicating the magnets were bending parts inside. Despite this, the files on the drive remained 100-percent intact.

Larger magnets were also used with the drive powered down, but when it was turned back on, the files were still completely unaffected.

...most companies nowadays shred hard drives to physically destroy them, because magnets cannot be relied upon to wipe data.

as for battery life, its 3 days of *use* - mice that give longer life, also tend to be far worse for gaming.

Run times has nothing to do with being worse or better for gaming. There's just no technical correlation there. If a wireless mouse has a longer run time and is worse for gaming, it is worse for gaming only because it has lousy tracking or some other characteristic not conducive to good gaming.

I note other wireless Logitech gaming mice, like the Logitech G602 which received good reviews, gets 250 hours in performance mode (1440 in endurance mode). And has a 3 year warranty instead of 2.
 

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Update: mouse has finally gone to 1 hour remaining. 4 days of gaming works out well for me on a gaming wireless mouse.

~45 minutes of charging, and she's back for another 33 hours of gaming. I can handle 1-2 charges a week.
 
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Everyone i know with a cordless logitech leaves the adaptor in 24/7, and uses a micro USB charger from their phone.

As a G700s and G900 owner, i can confirm
 
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Mussels

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That's pretty quick. :)

5 minutes of charging should last a few hours of gaming, so its quick enough to top up between rounds of a game in a worst case scenario without becoming a PC slave race wired pleb :p
 

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Whats the charge rate 1500ma ?.

Would of been nice to see it come with a base for the kind of price. Shame it not for lefty's too :p.
 
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Whats the charge rate 1500ma ?.

Would of been nice to see it come with a base for the kind of price. Shame it not for lefty's too :p.

Mouse is labelled for 500ma input.
G900 is for lefties, and i do not get the purpose of the docks, seems like a total gimmick.
 

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Meh G900 is even more expensive lol, i have the G700s and the SS Sensei wireless and the dock is so much better than the plug in a cable crap and hope it don't fall some were.

I see not having a dock just being cheap.

500ma ( of course it is silly me ) nice they differently of that over the G700\S but i guess a good part of that is down to using a optical lens.
 
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