No GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Announcement at CES

[Ungari]

Point one: Nvidia didn't troll anyone. We keep doing that in forums and by listening to rumours sites like Videocardz and WCCFTech.
Point two: You held off christmas for this, you're going AMD. So you'll go AMD with what? A RX480? Because Vega is vaporware as we speak. It's not out and it's still some way off, otherwise, they'd have announced it formally. And guess what, wait for Vega because that's when we 'might' see a 1080ti.

Perhaps it's because the RX 490 was supposed to be a Polaris chip, and not Vega.
While the RX 490 has been rumored for way too long without confirmation, whatever tier Radeon used in the Star Wars demo; they are calling that Vega.
While the engine used for Battlefront is not difficult for most cards to run at High settings, it was impressive to see that Vega demo run 4K resolution on Ultra at 60fps.
I have never heard anyone call Vega "vaporware" until now. That is an interesting take on the delays.

 

[Filip Cristian]

It is the 1070 that is only a little improvement. The 1080 easily beats the 980Ti. I'm there with you though. I'm at the plateau for a generation, and don't really want to step down a level. It becomes even harder to climb back up to a flagship later.

Sorry buddy but you got it all wrong. I got 2 980ti Seahawks in SLI hitting 1531 on the boost clock that are wiping the floor with any 1070's in SLI, in both terms of stability as well as overall HIGHEST/LOWEST fps. Not to mention the 1080 has several issues even on water, like voltage drops,leaks and instability on the clock. Nvidia either releases 1080ti or they will lose their 980ti customers as myself to the AMD Vega, of course im no amd fanboy so I won't blindly just purchase the Vega, always will wait for real-time -ingame benchmarks to see which card is best, 1080ti (assuming nvidia will release it as soon as vega's out) or amd's hbm2 vega. I bet on HBM2 simply cuz it can have 32gb of vram that's faster than gddr5x and because it can utilize DX12 for new games.. at its best and that crossfire tends to scale better than SLI, now AMD is known for fucking up drivers.. and optimizations, so I will take that into consideration if I am ever going to buy an AMD card, I have an ASUS ROG SWIFT 278Q 144hz 1ms g-sync 1440p monitor so I wouldn't go amd just easily cuz i'd need to swap out my monitor too.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Sorry buddy but you got it all wrong.

Apparently me....and many professional reviewers. A 980Ti does not "wipe the floor" with a 1070. LOL.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/

I didn't see a single game at 1440p that the regular (non-MSI) 1070 got beat by a 980Ti.

 

[qubit]

Not sure why people are puzzled or upset by this. Until/if AMD can match or exceed 1080, there is zero reason for NVIDIA to release a Ti. They've used that the last couple of gens as a big F#*k you, essentially saying "oh yeah? Top THIS!"

But that situation does not exist. And if it doesn't come to pass that AMD is competing with the 1080, then we won't even see a Ti this gen.

Aww, rtw that really depressed me, especially the bold bit. Please do not speak the truth any more, but only empty platitudes from now on, to preserve my sanity.

I need some professional counselling now.

 

[Prima.Vera]

... FWIW, technically 1080ti is boring. We know it's weaker than Titan X in core count and that Titan X under water hits about 2000Mhz.

Who knows, "IF" VEGA delivers, maybe nVidia will pull another 780Ti again (stronger than the Titanium)/ Just maybe...

 

[rtwjunkie]

Aww, rtw that really depressed me, especially the bold bit. Please do not speak the truth any more, but only empty platitudes from now on, to preserve my sanity.

I need some professional counselling now.

Hey now, I can't appear to flip-flop. It's what I said months ago, and I don't want anyone to say I don't believe in what I say (unlike politicians ).

 

[Filip Cristian]

Hey now, I can't appear to flip-flop. It's what I said months ago, and I don't want anyone to say I don't believe in what I say (unlike politicians ).

You do realize in those benchmarks that a GTX 980Ti is the original 980ti release correct? Dat bici doesn't hit more than 1200 on the boost clock. it can't even compare with my 980ti seahawks. When I get home today I will submit to you my benchmarks with 980ti SLI and single card. My system currently is
MSI Gaming M7 Z170, Intel I7 6700k on a swifttech watercooling aio oc'ed at 5.2 ghz, 64gb of ddr4 platinum corsair ram, 1000 psu from EVGA, MSI Seahawk 980ti x2, Samsung 950 SSD 500gb.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Sorry buddy but you got it all wrong. I got 2 980ti Seahawks in SLI hitting 1531 on the boost clock that are wiping the floor with any 1070's in SLI, in both terms of stability as well as overall HIGHEST/LOWEST fps. Not to mention the 1080 has several issues even on water, like voltage drops,leaks and instability on the clock. Nvidia either releases 1080ti or they will lose their 980ti customers as myself to the AMD Vega, of course im no amd fanboy so I won't blindly just purchase the Vega, always will wait for real-time -ingame benchmarks to see which card is best, 1080ti (assuming nvidia will release it as soon as vega's out) or amd's hbm2 vega. I bet on HBM2 simply cuz it can have 32gb of vram that's faster than gddr5x and because it can utilize DX12 for new games.. at its best and that crossfire tends to scale better than SLI, now AMD is known for fucking up drivers.. and optimizations, so I will take that into consideration if I am ever going to buy an AMD card, I have an ASUS ROG SWIFT 278Q 144hz 1ms g-sync 1440p monitor so I wouldn't go amd just easily cuz i'd need to swap out my monitor too.

The "amd is known for fucking up drivers and optimizations" has not been true since polaris came out, and nvidia is JUST as well known these days for driver issues. It's not 2011 anymore.

Also, why so protective of your setup? just saying, you're a little...fired up over how much tech you have. Gives an odd impression.

 

[kruk]

nVidia isn't releasing the 1080Ti because it would kill the overpriced Titan XP sales and because they are hoping to pull another 980Ti out of the pocket, like they did when Fury arrived. If AMD has really learned their lesson, they should be aiming Vega at Volta and completely ignore Pascal.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

nVidia isn't releasing the 1080Ti because it would kill the overpriced Titan XP sales and because they are hoping to pull another 980Ti out of the pocket, like they did when Fury arrived. If AMD has really learned their lesson, they should be aiming Vega at Volta and completely ignore Pascal.

lets be honest here, this is the same AMD that thought leaving half the GPU market to their competitor without any competition was a good idea.

I dont have faith in AMD's management.

 

[Steevo]

lets be honest here, this is the same AMD that thought leaving half the GPU market to their competitor without any competition was a good idea.

I dont have faith in AMD's management.

Since they can't design chips instantly, the reality is Lisa Su seems to have them on the right track but we don't know how really big or powerful the train really is, just a lot of noise and rumor.

 

[GhostRyder]

Aww, rtw that really depressed me, especially the bold bit. Please do not speak the truth any more, but only empty platitudes from now on, to preserve my sanity.

I need some professional counselling now.

I bet we will see the 1080ti regardless. Its probably already sitting on a shelf waiting, it will either be a response to AMD or they will wait until something like a couple of months and sales die down to release it.

Since they can't design chips instantly, the reality is Lisa Su seems to have them on the right track but we don't know how really big or powerful the train really is, just a lot of noise and rumor.

Yea, Lisa Su seems to know what shes doing with the company as its been way better than it has in years.

 

[kruk]

Since they can't design chips instantly, ...

^^^This. IMHO Vega will be the first chip designed with Koduri in full charge, and that's why I believe it might be something unexpected.

This is from Anandtech:

The timeframe for Raja’s influence depends on what you’re talking about. Raja’s immediate goal is to ensure that AMD has the best GPU architecture/hardware possible. Unfortunately, it will likely take 2 - 3 years to realize this goal - putting the serious fruits of Raja’s labor somewhere around 2015 - 2016. Interestingly enough, that’s roughly the same time horizon for the fruits of Jim Keller’s CPU work at AMD.

 

[Filip Cristian]

The "amd is known for fucking up drivers and optimizations" has not been true since polaris came out, and nvidia is JUST as well known these days for driver issues. It's not 2011 anymore.

Also, why so protective of your setup? just saying, you're a little...fired up over how much tech you have. Gives an odd impression.

I honestly don't know where you see me being protective of my setup.. i'm not protective of it at all (explain that in ur next reply if u have time) reason I mentioned that about AMD is because my old card with them that I had in my wife's computer... basically melted because of AMD's drivers which forced blow fans at 5% or something as such and it caused my card to overheat.

 

[Steevo]

I honestly don't know where you see me being protective of my setup.. i'm not protective of it at all (explain that in ur next reply if u have time) reason I mentioned that about AMD is because my old card with them that I had in my wife's computer... basically melted because of AMD's drivers which forced blow fans at 5% or something as such and it caused my card to overheat.

Nvidia did the same thing a few times. Except their didn't just overheat, they died, and the sheer number of Nvidia Bake threads should tell you something about how great their QC was for many years.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I honestly don't know where you see me being protective of my setup.. i'm not protective of it at all (explain that in ur next reply if u have time) reason I mentioned that about AMD is because my old card with them that I had in my wife's computer... basically melted because of AMD's drivers which forced blow fans at 5% or something as such and it caused my card to overheat.

Steevo has already covered that nvidia has done the exact same thing.

As for you being protective, i think that you writing

You do realize in those benchmarks that a GTX 980Ti is the original 980ti release correct? Dat bici doesn't hit more than 1200 on the boost clock. it can't even compare with my 980ti seahawks. When I get home today I will submit to you my benchmarks with 980ti SLI and single card. My system currently is
MSI Gaming M7 Z170, Intel I7 6700k on a swifttech watercooling aio oc'ed at 5.2 ghz, 64gb of ddr4 platinum corsair ram, 1000 psu from EVGA, MSI Seahawk 980ti x2, Samsung 950 SSD 500gb.

As a response to

Hey now, I can't appear to flip-flop. It's what I said months ago, and I don't want anyone to say I don't believe in what I say (unlike politicians ).

which had NOTHING to do with your 980tis, but was written by the same guy saying the 1070 was not shown up by a 980ti, says enough on its own. The fact that you have to tag your system, with it's OC clock rates, onto a mistyped comment that comes across as a rage comment based on the fact the comment you were replying to had nothing to do with your rig, says it all.

 

[efikkan]

I know many of you are disappointed for the card not launching at CES, but rest assured it's coming very soon. Of course Nvidia could technically have released it already, but that would have been a limited release since the GP102 is still in short supply. We don't know the exact release date, it could be one week from now at a special event or at one of the upcoming events like GDC (Feb 27th). But usually Nvidia have some teasers the days before the release.

I'm impatient to buy one myself, but I'll be going for one of the slightly better versions (like MSI Gaming), so I would probably have to wait some weeks after the release.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Yeah still no competition so why bother, that small GP104 is raking it for them just fine thanks very much.

After all, AMD demoed Vega with DooM again running Vulkan (shock horror), but even then that dipped to 37FPS.

Chalk me up as excited.

 

[Filip Cristian]

Nvidia did the same thing a few times. Except their didn't just overheat, they died, and the sheer number of Nvidia Bake threads should tell you something about how great their QC was for many years.

My bad then, my knowledge on both sides is not as good as yours, obviously . All I meant was that I like to be careful before purchasing a card for myself/ or for anyone I'd be buying it for.

 

[yuijhg]

i guess they dont like money. people with a 980 ti like me were ready to drop $750 on a "1080 ti" but i see no benefit in dropping $650 on a regular 1080 when there is little improvement over the 980 ti.

edit: if AMD drops the rx 490 soon they got my money. screw nvidia.

Even if(when) it's worse than a 1080? You didn't get the rx 480 so I assume performance matters to you.

 

[dbc]

Even if(when) it's worse than a 1080? You didn't get the rx 480 so I assume performance matters to you.

Why would AMD release something with pomp and circumstance if its already been beaten by the 1080? I would assume the rx 490 / vega platform would be on par with a 1080 ti, and even if not quite as good as the 1080 ti i would be getting it out of spite.

 

[Camm]

Yeah still no competition so why bother, that small GP104 is raking it for them just fine thanks very much.

After all, AMD demoed Vega with DooM again running Vulkan (shock horror), but even then that dipped to 37FPS.

Chalk me up as excited.

Your better than that Fluff, you know that run was benchmark was fps capped, and look at the screen it got captured on. That sort of thing will destroy plenty of GPU's momentarily because its an entire framebuffer flush because of the dramatic scene change.

i.e. someone was very fucking lucky to capture that screen.

 

[ddferrari]

lol the amount of ignorant people in the comments. 1080Ti will come as soon as AMD releases Vega. It will sit above Vega and below Titan Pascal. Question is - prices.

You don't "know" anything more than anyone else here- you're speculating just like everyone else. You didn't say anything new either: "It will sit above Vega and below Titan Pascal. Question is - prices." Well DUH.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Apparently me....and many professional reviewers. A 980Ti does not "wipe the floor" with a 1070. LOL.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/

I didn't see a single game at 1440p that the regular (non-MSI) 1070 got beat by a 980Ti.

Boy does this sound reminiscent of another thread recently lol. Well yes we did go through this before and when you throw in OC's that changes things altogether. Especially if you have a ti that hits 1531+ on boost as Filip specifically said then you basically have an even ball game and depending on game YES the 1070 will lose at some resolutions period. The article we linked to in last thread had 1070 vs 980ti OC'd to limits (only 1450 on ti) and it won about 25% of the tests which yes is a minority...but then the "wins" by the 1070 were anywhere from .03 of a frame to often barely a full frame.

That as I said in that forum is a statistical tie...overall margin of "victory" for the 1070 is 3%. That's diddly squat. Yes it is newer gen and much more power efficient and impressively so and expectedly so for new gen and better tech/die shrink etc. Yes ti as we established in last thread does not "wipe the floor" with a 1070 that is true. However purely based on performance fps in games with OC'ing to buy a 1070 to replace a 980 ti would be assinine especially if it cost more money because it would truly be a lateral move with basically no fps improvement whatsoever. ONLY reason I considered it myself is yeah it is much better performance per watt and saving juice is nice, but otherwise not buying that 1070 is superior performing card, period.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Steevo has already covered that nvidia has done the exact same thing.

As for you being protective, i think that you writing

As a response to


which had NOTHING to do with your 980tis, but was written by the same guy saying the 1070 was not shown up by a 980ti, says enough on its own. The fact that you have to tag your system, with it's OC clock rates, onto a mistyped comment that comes across as a rage comment based on the fact the comment you were replying to had nothing to do with your rig, says it all.

Agreed a little protective, some of what he said I don't agree with and think is overstated or wrong, however some of what he said does have merit. Also in fairness yes he "replied" to wrong statement but he was still on prior statements that RTW had said and looks like he misunderstood that quote or simply clicked reply on wrong statement. Saying he was irrelevant due to that is also a misdirection and disingenuous, it's obvious he's still talking about the prior statements about 1070 vs 980ti and that statement yes agreed had nothing to do with it but I think that was just his mistake or he just replied to last thing RTW said lol.