Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

Ahhzz · Oct 10, 2016

Drone said:
True. Rolling back fucked up updates takes a lot of time and most importantly nerve cells lol
Lately big patches for iOS, Win 7 or 10 are getting really unpredictable. How many times I've heard that testers/insiders complained that patch 'x' can cause an issue for some users yet devs decide to release them anyway and later admit "yeah we know it's fucked, we'll fix it later".

Had to bill a client 2 1/2 hours last week due to a video card update on a Win10 all-in-one that wouldn't roll back, and whatever it corrupted, I couldn't get it booting out of safe mode except by using the generic M$ drivers for video... Doesn't need high frame rates for her job, so I left it like that without trying to manually stripping whatever got missed.
Then there was the patch a few months ago that completely screwed up the html intro page on Creative Solutions products, shutting down 3 of our accountant office-clients until we figured out what had happened...

dorsetknob · Oct 10, 2016

Win 10 Good for Buisness

Ahhzz said:

Had to bill a client 2 1/2 hours last week due to a video card update on a Win10 all-in-one that wouldn't roll back, and whatever it corrupted,

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Not so Good for the Client

Drone · Nov 1, 2016

MS ends sales for PCs with Windows 7/8.1 preinstalled (oem)

Ahhzz · Nov 2, 2016

Aw, fucknuts

Aquinus · Nov 2, 2016

Considering MS managed to screw up my Windows installation twice since I've upgraded to 10, I can say there is a damn good reason why I'm not running Windows anymore. I like Windows 10 itself and how it performs. As an OS, I really do like it. What I hate is this uncontrolled upgrade bullshit that seems to continuously break my machine. It's great when it works but, every time there is a "major" update, it's like upgrading to Vista all over again.

Windows 10 is a combination of all the thing we love and hate about Windows.

Mussels · Nov 2, 2016

i just disable windows updates (via my sig, as i keep saying) and have zero issues. i only ever do major upgrades via the ISO method.

Octopuss · Jan 9, 2017

http://news.softpedia.com/news/wind...ude-drivers-from-windows-updates-511642.shtml

http://news.softpedia.com/news/micr...part-of-aero-glass-in-windows-10-511646.shtml

I might give the damn system another shot in a year or so if this really happens.

P4-630 · Jan 9, 2017

Octopuss said:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/wind...ude-drivers-from-windows-updates-511642.shtml

http://news.softpedia.com/news/micr...part-of-aero-glass-in-windows-10-511646.shtml

I might give the damn system another shot in a year or so if this really happens.

If it's true, thats good news then.
I will probably wait a little longer before getting w10 because I still hear people complaining that windows 10 gets borked after some larger update, once M$ has fixed this I might give it a shot.

Still waiting at least a year from now though.

eidairaman1 · Jan 9, 2017

P4-630 said:
If it's true, thats good news then.
I will probably wait a little longer before getting w10 because I still hear people complaining that windows 10 gets borked after some larger update, once M$ has fixed this I might give it a shot.

Still waiting at least a year from now though.

the slow down on Windows update results from the WUD client in SP1, askwoody.com has the best solution for that issue. I'm still on W7 and in matter of fact just put 7 on a 754 Rig with 3GB ram- runs good for what it is lol.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jan 9, 2017

P4-630 said:
If it's true, thats good news then.
I will probably wait a little longer before getting w10 because I still hear people complaining that windows 10 gets borked after some larger update, once M$ has fixed this I might give it a shot.

Still waiting at least a year from now though.

Since a day 1 install I've had no issues with 10 that I did not cause and no update has broken my pc, fingers crossed, it's on all day everyday flat out too.
I had issues BIOS flashing GPUs then getting it working ,and I swapped from a r9 380 to these 480s that also was a pain for some driver related reason or I suspect my top pciex has seen too much abuse.

eidairaman1 · Jan 9, 2017

theoneandonlymrk said:
Since a day 1 install I've had no issues with 10 that I did not cause and no update has broken my pc, fingers crossed, it's on all day everyday flat out too.
I had issues BIOS flashing GPUs then getting it working ,and I swapped from a r9 380 to these 480s that also was a pain for some driver related reason or I suspect my top pciex has seen too much abuse.

I'd still do a fresh OS install and a Backup.

RealNeil · Jan 9, 2017

The last time that I used Win-10 with a build, it worked great for a week. Then, one of its updates installed and rebooted the PC.
It never booted after that. I tried everything to get it back, but nothing worked.

It was an i7-4770K with 16GB of RAM installed on an ASUS H81 board.
I was using a 480GB Kingston HyperX Savage SSD and it was all in an InWin 901 case (750W Gold PSU) with Push/Pull Corsair water cooling for the CPU.

I don't need this kind of crap in my life. All of you young Bucks can play with it.

nomdeplume · Jan 9, 2017

It was inevitable I find this thread after mildly sassing Bill_Bright over Windows when he was already worked up. The only use I've found for W10 is serving media on a computer without network access. The upgrades to music and video quality are amazing even on an outdated machine.

TheGuruStud · Jan 9, 2017

I still have THREE major mem leaks on shit10. I had four, but fixed one by uninstalling shitel RST driver. This never happened on 8. Same hardware and same drivers (aside from being win10 ver). PC has been on for 3 days and already 12GBs has leaked.

I had to use 4 (count em) tools to totally disable all the bullshit that comes with 10 LOL. As you can't trust hosts file to block M$, I also have it blocked in the router.

Kursah · Jan 9, 2017

No complaints on my end, if 10 breaks I can usually fix it and can do so far more success than any previous version of Windows. That's huge in my book on a professional level.

Crazy on the memory leaks, were they all drivers responsible for the leaks?

If so, were they all Intel drivers?

Beyond Chrome and a few select games my memory usage isn't shabby on any personal or managed system. The way 10 handles memory is actually quite good in my experience, and even improves on 8.1's ability of doing a fine job with memory management. But different situations for different systems for sure.

That's a lotta tools to disable all the stuff that comes with 10 lol.

Jetster · Jan 9, 2017

I can't complain. 7 just seams boring now. No memory leaks at all. The only complaint I had was the start menu and icons. But its not a deal breaker. And when you install you can deselect most of the intrusive crap

Kursah · Jan 9, 2017

Yep, and a trick to the start menu is to start typing what you want to use and it'll usually pull it right up. That works for many folks into using 10 faster rather than fumbling around.

Though ClassicStart is still free and can give you a Windows 7-style start menu in about 30 seconds from download to install, at least when installed from Ninite.com.

TheGuruStud · Jan 9, 2017

Kursah said:
No complaints on my end, if 10 breaks I can usually fix it and can do so far more success than any previous version of Windows. That's huge in my book on a professional level.

Crazy on the memory leaks, were they all drivers responsible for the leaks?

If so, were they all Intel drivers?

Beyond Chrome and a few select games my memory usage isn't shabby on any personal or managed system. The way 10 handles memory is actually quite good in my experience, and even improves on 8.1's ability of doing a fine job with memory management. But different situations for different systems for sure.

That's a lotta tools to disable all the stuff that comes with 10 lol.

At least two of the three remaining are. I suspect they really screwed up WDM.

Kursah · Jan 10, 2017

I think this is an isolated case but maybe there's a WDM issue here...though if that were the case, I feel we'd see far more issues with it and really, I haven't.

I haven't seen memory leaks that bad from drivers on 10, at least more than one crappy driver on a single system. I say that because I have over 10 physical systems I've deployed at home ranging from second gen to sixth gen Intel Core platforms, an AMD APU platform, and then I have my virtual lab as well (doesn't really count in the driver department since there's less variation here and I use Hyper-V). On a professional level, I've deployed 10 on 100's of systems (maybe even add an extra 0 by now LOL), on Core2 systems, Athlon X2 systems, all the way up to brand new systems.

Not all were painless, not all were perfect...but there were quite a few that surprised me at how well they accepted 10. I do gotta say some older systems responded better to upgrading from 7 than a fresh install, and vice versa for new systems. Especially now that some new systems and hardware have no official Win 7 support.

Which system are you having these issues on?

TheGuruStud · Jan 10, 2017

Kursah said:
I think this is an isolated case but maybe there's a WDM issue here...though if that were the case, I feel we'd see far more issues with it and really, I haven't.

I haven't seen memory leaks that bad from drivers on 10, at least more than one crappy driver on a single system. I say that because I have over 10 physical systems I've deployed at home ranging from second gen to sixth gen Intel Core platforms, an AMD APU platform, and then I have my virtual lab as well (doesn't really count in the driver department since there's less variation here and I use Hyper-V). On a professional level, I've deployed 10 on 100's of systems (maybe even add an extra 0 by now LOL), on Core2 systems, Athlon X2 systems, all the way up to brand new systems.

Not all were painless, not all were perfect...but there were quite a few that surprised me at how well they accepted 10. I do gotta say some older systems responded better to upgrading from 7 than a fresh install, and vice versa for new systems. Especially now that some new systems and hardware have no official Win 7 support.

Which system are you having these issues on?

Intel RST is very common. Idk about creative crap.

Kursah · Jan 10, 2017

Sure but RST causing memory leak issues on 10, I haven't seen it or at least it's rare enough I don't recall a specific occurrence where it caused any hell and consumed a bunch of available memory. Hence asking for details from you about which system, is it the one in your system specs? Not?

What version of RST are you deploying?
What is this "creative crap" you speak of? Just the standard sound card software suite?
Creative sound cards?
Creative USB sound card/amp?

TheGuruStud · Jan 10, 2017

Kursah said:
Sure but RST causing memory leak issues on 10, I haven't seen it or at least it's rare enough I don't recall a specific occurrence where it caused any hell and consumed a bunch of available memory. Hence asking for details from you about which system, is it the one in your system specs? Not?

What version of RST are you deploying?
What is this "creative crap" you speak of? Just the standard sound card software suite?
Creative sound cards?
Creative USB sound card/amp?

Asrock Z97M, 980ti, x-fi Ti.

The versions never mattered. It leaked since day one. I tried all the potential fixes. Device manager uninstall took care of it lol.

The only leak I ever had on 8 was killer ethernet crap, which was easily remedied as it wasn't the driver, but the service.

Creative is known for junk drivers, but even modded can't fix this haha. Display and audio WDM keep getting updated. Even nvidia has fallen on a release to this crap.

Kursah · Jan 10, 2017

Ya I dealt with the Killer Ethernet driver mess with Win 8/8.1 as well, thank goodness for the Qualcom driver workaround!

Dang I have a couple systems I built for friends with that board, one is on 10, one is on 8.1. Both are solid. Though not sure I installed RST on either TBH. Not often I use that utility anymore. Not often I use onboard Intel RAID...and my current laptop, an Acer Predator 15, with a 256GB M.2 SSD and a 1TB HDD, the BIOS for the Intel chipset was set default to RAID, and RST does not come pre-installed. So if you're not running an actual RAID, or using a small SSD as a cache then really it isn't like you need RST in the first place.

My boy's PC's (in sig) have H97M's, though iirc I didn't install RST on either of them but will check...haven't had a memory leak issue on them either though. So odds are I didn't.

Been a while since I've dealt with Creative's drivers...but last I recall, while they were a little bulky size-wise on the drive...they weren't too horrid on RAM. I may have to fire up my Auzen X-Fi Forte and see what the deal is. I run an Aune T1 so the Windows audio device drivers do the deed.

Frick · Jan 10, 2017

TheGuruStud said:
Creative is known for junk drivers, but even modded can't fix this haha. Display and audio WDM keep getting updated. Even nvidia has fallen on a release to this crap.

I have an X-Fi card and nothing weird is going on about it...

I didn't read the articles above, but the sad thing about how will be able to stop driver updating is how it does not apply to Home users (yet, anyway). Which is kind of bollocks to me, because it is the moms and pops on cheap laptops who are fudged by the updates.

Vario · Jan 10, 2017

You can pry Windows 7 Pro from my cold dead hands. :pimp:

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Mouse	Logitech G602
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