NVIDIA to make even more FE cards - could overall prices rise?

[qubit]

I don't like this move by NVIDIA since it could end up leading to higher prices overall (yet again) if they're too successful with this strategy. Seems like there are a lot of people who don't know the difference between a crappy FE card with a noisy and inadequate cooler and a cheaper, but superior AIB card and NVIDIA is milking them for all they've got.

Something pretty interesting has been happening lately, NVIDIA’s interest in its own line of Founders Edition graphics cards has been steadily rising and it has plans to continue producing them in 2017 going forward. This will of course mean that NVIDIA will be competing with its very own add-in-board partners for the market share of GeForce graphics cards. The Pascal Founders Edition variants of the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 were more expensive than the custom variants but still managed to be wildly successful.

http://wccftech.com/nvidias-founders-edition-graphics-grow-competing-aibs-2017

 

[RCoon]

NVidia has been strategically raising the overall price of GPUs for years now. The fact that "entry level" is now classified as anything sub $250 should worry people about the state of the market.
AMD are no better, they're simply following suit to cash in, as any company would.

 

[the54thvoid]

Yup. Both bad.

So very much rests on Vega. Performance and price. I'm tired of Nvidia.

At least I can buy a Kabylake CPU cheaper than a Skylake one. That's at least a positive thing, no matter how much flack Intel get.

 

[Ruru]

1. Produce a reference card
2. Name it with a cool-sounding name and stick a higher price tag
3. Profit

 

[Recon-UK]

Yeah i'm actually not going intel or Nvidia for my next purchases, as it's blatantly obvious where they are both headed, though being fair there is a shortcoming of actual competition. But still... my wallet speaks louder than your ugly metal coolers.

 

[natr0n]

Ngreedia

 

[the54thvoid]

Ngreedia

Not really. It's a business. I don't like their pricing at all but it's entirely logical. Cars, Smartphones, Athletic clothing are all the same -charging over the odds for products because they can.

Hell, look at Nike trainers. Produced in Vietnam, sold for vast profit. But that's business.

I won't defend the pricing but calling a business greedy is like calling a cow a bovine.

 

[jboydgolfer]

anyone who paid more than $300 for ANY 1070 (ex), is feeding this machine. its a damn GPU people! its not gonna suddenly be any different than ANY other previous version GPU. Ive been watching bolognaheads RUN to buy the newest item AS soon as they release for a long time . its All these things, and more that feeds this beast, If you read the OP of this thread and didnt like it...dont be grumpy now that your baby is growing up, you should be happy, just like all the people who keep pre-ordering BF titles from Dice/EA.

^^^^^@54thVoid is right, they do it until BUYERS dont allow it any more. It's the nature of the beast

Lets ALL strike!! rise against the system!!!!!

 

[dorsetknob]

Its like Cherry bombing a urinal and sitting down (waiting for the bang and getting covered in Shit)
you either upgrade or you expect your current cards performance to degrade over Time as Nvidia Tweak Driver performance and or..........................

PS
Hey @qubit change thread title
Remove this word its inappropriate
"could "

 

[Xzibit]

Its a business move and probably is motivated by the shrinking PC market. This way they have more $$ of the shrinking pie. What happens if one of their AIBs decided to close shop because of the continuing shrinking pie. This way they have a channel to the customer in place if that happens Didnt a Euro or Asia AIB close for them last year.

This started with the Titan, no AIBs being able to modify. Expanded with Founders Edition.

 

[AsRock]

You sure it's just nVidia ?, was only a few days ago i was hearing that importing is going be less profitable there for making the actual item in the US would look more attractive, although this could be just for car manufactures.

 

[the54thvoid]

Its a business move and probably is motivated by the shrinking PC market. This way they have more $$ of the shrinking pie. What happens if one of their AIBs decided to close shop because of the continuing shrinking pie. This way they have a channel to the customer in place if that happens Didnt a Euro or Asia AIB close for them last year.

This started with the Titan, no AIBs being able to modify. Expanded with Founders Edition.

And that Titan nonsense (yes I bought an OG) was the start of no tinkering, locked voltages and jumping through warranty voiding hoops to mod them.

 

[dorsetknob]

You sure it's just nVidia

Ducky want manufactures to Relocate manafactureing Sites Back to the good old USA

Rumour has it Nvidia will Resurect 3DFX to be made in the USA again ( from Meheco )
They gonna Call the first Production line
3DFX Founders Edition VR

Ps its only a Rumour

 

[AsRock]

Well it would put cost up, if they stay up ( they normally do ) we will have to see.

 

[qubit]

PS
Hey @qubit change thread title
Remove this word its inappropriate
"could

I get where you're coming from, but we don't know for sure that this will happen so have to be careful not to state it as a fact.

I do like your latest avatar.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

From what is reported in the link theres no proof that they will raise the price they will merely take some of the market away from their business partners so, with a larger volume of sales NVid could actually reduce prices.

 

[qubit]

From what is reported in the link theres no proof that they will raise the price they will merely take some of the market away from their business partners so, with a larger volume of sales NVid could actually reduce prices.

Yup, it's my speculation, based on the strategy being a little too successful.

 

[Komshija]

Nvidia made excellent marketing and brainwashed people into buying their pricey cards. Yet, they come up with "Founders" editions, which are usually slower clocked and pricier than AIB cards that are usually released a few weeks later.

 

[qubit]

Nvidia made excellent marketing and brainwashed people into buying their pricey cards.

You really shouldn't make blanket statements like that. Some of us actually buy them because they perform better than the competition.

 

[kruk]

I have no problems with people buying the FE cards - some people just deserve to be ripped off, why deny them this experience?

However, I have a problem with the performance/price charts, especially here on TPU. If a GPU maker decided to release a FE edition of the card and you benchmark it, there should be only a single performance/price result for the benchmarked card. Adding a xxx @ yyy $ bar is misleading if you didn't benchmark the non FE card.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Dick move from their suppliers pov but yeah I get it Nvidia wanna go full blue chip but other potential co ops are always watching ,they should have been a bit more reasonable ,done them as ltd edition first thousand (10000)or something.

 

[jaggerwild]

We going on strike?

 

[erocker]

Nvidia can do what they want with little to no competition. Don't like it, don't buy it.

 

[qubit]

Nvidia can do what they want with little to no competition. Don't like it, don't buy it.

Exactly. AMD's upcoming products are looking good though (both CPU & GPU) so I hope these rectify the situation.

 

[GhostRyder]

Or how Titan XP (I know the others were similar in this regard) is now locked Nvidia only and only comes in the FE edition.