Intel Core i7-7740K and i5-7640K Codenamed "Kaby Lake-X," 112W TDP, No IGP

[GreiverBlade]

one wonder ... soooo the i5-7640K is a "just 100mhz more than the 7600K" it was rumored to get HT but does not, right? (thought the only interesting thing is "no igp" ... but the normal 7600K and 7700K should also feature that ... on a i3 and pentium the igp might come in handy but for many user in i5 and 7 nope ... granted it's "imho" )

if yes ... then my 6600K is not even on the border of being in a early retirement candidate ...
when Ryzen will be out benched and if the price is nice ... who know ... maybe (and i would be able to take advantage of the "flock of 2nd hand buyer" who are "intel is teh best" and get nearly 100% refund on it ... or more )

socket 2066??? pfahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah ... not even interesting ... good job intel, if you do so ... it's a "shot in the foot"

 

[ERazer]

If Ryzen should improvement from my 2600k im switching over

 

[newtekie1]

If you have more money and invest in hedt motherboard why would you want a mainstream CPU in it??
That platform needs more pciex lanes and memory channels then the chips can at this moment provide so half hedt's performance advantage wouldn't be used, pointless imho.

The argument that HEDT motherboards are more expensive doesn't really fly. You can get X99 boards for under $200. That's pretty equivalent to the enthusiast 1151 Z170/Z270 motherboards at this point. There isn't a massive price difference there.

So it would be very appealing for some that want to get a decent motherboard with the HEDT platform, and then upgrade the processor later on.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Well if there best fight back this year involves a full platform swap some might get pushed AMDs way.

The argument that HEDT motherboards are more expensive doesn't really fly. You can get X99 boards for under $200. That's pretty equivalent to the enthusiast 1151 Z170/Z270 motherboards at this point. There isn't a massive price difference there.

So it would be very appealing for some that want to get a decent motherboard with the HEDT platform, and then upgrade the processor later on.

Sounds like a big market that??
It's proper shadey bro.
They should have done a skull canyon style mainstream chip that fits.
Ok so I'd allow an i7 but I5 ,that's little better than a new Pentium , not happening often that imho

 

[xorbe]

How the hell do you manage to increase performance by 2-3% and screw up a chip's total tdp by 30%+ is beyond me

TDP is the thermal design point. The solder allows a higher target. It doesn't promise higher power usage at stock settings.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Ad campaign, of course. Intel has always had a fantastic marketing department.

That said, it's great that they're moving some production back to the USA. That's all Trump really needs to give your company time in the spot light.

They can also just bring over some poor asian bastards and make them work 70 hrs/week for peanuts. This is what they used to do.

 

[mcraygsx]

That took them a while. "The chips also reportedly feature a high-performance thermal interface material (TIM) under the integrated heatspreaders (IHS)."

 

[cdawall]

TDP is the thermal design point. The solder allows a higher target. It doesn't promise higher power usage at stock settings.

The silicone plays a huge roll in stability as does the rest of the power delivery. Quite a few more power pins available in 2066 than 1151.

And its thermal design power? Unless I'm mistaken.

 

[nemesis.ie]

That took them a while. "The chips also reportedly feature a high-performance thermal interface material (TIM) under the integrated heatspreaders (IHS)."

The same was said about Devil's canyon and it was not soldered. I got over 10c temp drop by re-lidding with liquid metal.

Time will tell, if Ryzen is soldered (as is the norm with AMD) and as a result of that and the other stuff it has overclocks well, they may be forced to release soldered models.

 

[Xzibit]

They can also just bring over some poor asian bastards and make them work 70 hrs/week for peanuts. This is what they used to do.

I'm sure there is a Visa for that.

 

[14ccKemiskt]

If the Kaby Lake-X SKUs could get a L4 128M cahce á la 5775C (albeit with a disconnected iGPU) then it should be a killer gaming CPU.

But, this i just wishful thinking I guess...

 

[Aquinus]

If the Kaby Lake-X SKUs could get a L4 128M cahce á la 5775C (albeit with a disconnected iGPU) then it should be a killer gaming CPU.

But, this i just wishful thinking I guess...

Intel CPUs with Iris Pro have that eDRAM cache acting as a last level cache already. The reality is that cache hit rates are already insanely good and that only very specific workloads benefit from the larger cache and it's not like it makes a huge difference. In this day and age, cache and memory throughput is not typically a bottleneck.

The silicone

I think you mean silicon unless you wanted this discussion to take a turn for the worst.

 

[cdawall]

I think you mean silicon unless you wanted this discussion to take a turn for the worst.

Yea for some reason whenever it comes to boobs my phones goes negative LOL

 

[R0H1T]

I'm sure there is a Visa for that.

Pretty sure they'd be detained by ICE

 

[wurschti]

And on the Intel side, ladies and gentlemen, the new guide from Intel "Customer screwing 101"

 

[nemesis.ie]

And on the Intel side, ladies and gentlemen, the new guide from Intel "Customer screwing 101"

It's not a new guide, just another version bump to a very old guide.

 

[wurschti]

It's not a new guide, just another version bump to a very old guide.

True

 

[Slizzo]

The argument that HEDT motherboards are more expensive doesn't really fly. You can get X99 boards for under $200. That's pretty equivalent to the enthusiast 1151 Z170/Z270 motherboards at this point. There isn't a massive price difference there.

So it would be very appealing for some that want to get a decent motherboard with the HEDT platform, and then upgrade the processor later on.

True, I got my X99 board for $159 back in November.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Replace iGP with 2 more cores on the mainstream platform and then we are talking, but its not that simple unfortunately.