AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Leaked Benchmarks Analyzed, Faster Than Intel’s Fastest 6 Core

[Xzibit]

No, they never said so. But, if everything was alright they could have launched full product lineup at same time.

With that kind of thinking no tech company is alright

Intel
Nvidia

They never launch their full line-up at once

Reality awaits because your pattern is concerning.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I heard the opposite, they hardly can go over 4GHz + issues with higher clocked RAM.

Maybe with the X1800 model that's clocked higher, but I have a hard time believing they'd all be OCing lemons when yields and wattage is so good.

 

[the54thvoid]

I heard the opposite, they hardly can go over 4GHz + issues with higher clocked RAM.
There might be reason why AMD pushed back release of Ryzen 5/3.

One of the overclocking reviews for Kabylake has that exact issue. OC is fine as long as RAM speed is lowered.

 

[okidna]

I heard the opposite, they hardly can go over 4GHz + issues with higher clocked RAM.
There might be reason why AMD pushed back release of Ryzen 5/3.

 

[FYFI13]

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Interesting, all AM4 motherboards i saw state 2666MHz is max supported speed. Including top dogs for nearly 300 pounds.

 

[Xzibit]

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Some of the kits AMD sent out include 3200mhz memory.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

No, they never said so. But, if everything was alright they could have launched full product lineup at same time.

Your completely wrong there, binning takes time. For everyone.
Fudzilla is running a post worth noting, 5.2ghz all 8 -16 cores active and new cinebench world record , I read it was on ln2 and at 1.85 core V but yesterday the article disappeared off wccf I think, well I read it yesterday then could not find it again until today.

 

[FYFI13]

Your completely wrong there, binning takes time. For everyone.
Fudzilla is running a post worth noting, 5.2ghz all 8 -16 cores active and new cinebench world record , I read it was on ln2 and at 1.85 core V but yesterday the article disappeared off wccf I think, well I read it yesterday then could not find it again until today.

5.2GHz and 1.85V on LN2? That sounds terrible, even keeping in mind it's an 8 core CPU. So, on air cooling 4.3GHz at best?

And Intel usually manages to launch almost full CPU lineup at same time. At least few CPUs from each category (Celeron, Pentium, i3, i5, i7).

 

[Alduin]

5.2GHz and 1.85V on LN2? That sounds terrible, even keeping in mind it's an 8 core CPU. So, on air cooling 4.3GHz at best?

And Intel usually manages to launch almost full CPU lineup at same time. At least few CPUs from each category (Celeron, Pentium, i3, i5, i7).

For 8 cores it is hard to reach high frequencies
Intel i7 6900k with 140w TDP Could barely reach 4GHz
And both are 14nmFinfet
I think this is a good record for Ryzen

 

[FYFI13]

For 8 cores it is hard to reach high frequencies
Intel i7 6900k with 140w TDP Could barely reach 4GHz
And both are 14nmFinfet
I think this is a good record for Ryzen

False. I7 6900K easily can hit 4.3GHz @1.3V, 4.4GHz close to 1.4V. Depends on chip.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Interesting, all AM4 motherboards i saw state 2666MHz is max supported speed. Including top dogs for nearly 300 pounds.

Gigabyte - Support for DDR4 3200(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2667/2400/2133 MHz memory modules
Biostar - G.SKILL F4-3600C17D-8GVK 4G DDR4 3600
MSI - Supports DDR4 1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 3200(OC)+ Mhz
Asus - 4 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR4 3200(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2666/2400/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory

The only company that doesn't list any kind of extra memory speeds is ASRock.

Is it as good as Intel? No. But keep in mind that it's still early days and the UEFI is most likely not fine tuned yet, so I'm expecting we'll see higher speeds in a few months. Even when a new Intel platform launches, the memory speed announcements are quite conservative.

 

[FYFI13]

@TheLostSwede Oh, my bad. I have only checked what scan.co.uk has to offer and all of them (according to their description) can do 2666MHz at best. Hopefully it's a typo from their end.

Edit. Typo it is:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asu...-m2-(pcie-sata)-realtek-lan-usb-31-a-microatx

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B350M-A/specifications/

 

[TheLostSwede]

Not a typo, that's the official memory speed support from AMD if you want to run four DIMMs. Overclocking speeds are limited to two DIMMs. I think Scan just played it safe to start with.

 

[EarthDog]

5.2GHz and 1.85V on LN2? That sounds terrible, even keeping in mind it's an 8 core CPU. So, on air cooling 4.3GHz at best?

.

Exactly. The thing uses XFR to hit 4.1 GHz... and that's on one core also (full core boost is 3.7Ghz). Running all cores past 4ghz will be a struggle on some air solutions. I don't see much past 4.4ghz on custom water.

 

[Komshija]

Ryzen could be a big success. If Ryzen 5 1600X (which will sale for about 20$ higher price than i5 7600K) after some more tests will be able to beat much more expensive i7 6800K, it'll be a market sensation. According to a few current tests, it destroys not only i5 7600K, but also i7 7700K and i7 6800K in CPU-Z multi thread, while retaining single thread performance of an i7 6800K. I assume that Intel will lower prices for their CPU's, because i5 7640K and i7 7740K look like funny and desperate moves.

 

[cdawall]

Exactly. The thing uses XFR to hit 4.1 GHz... and that's on one core also (full core boost is 3.7Ghz). Running all cores past 4ghz will be a struggle on some air solutions. I don't see much past 4.4ghz on custom water.

Depending on motherboard heavily. They are drawing a wee bit of juice from the vrms

 

[EarthDog]

Yes, of course... this is assuming you have a sufficient board to drive it.

Keep those back of socket coolers and spot VRM cooling handy...................

 

[kruk]

I heard the opposite, they hardly can go over 4GHz + issues with higher clocked RAM.
There might be reason why AMD pushed back release of Ryzen 5/3.

Don't worry too much about RAM speed, fixes are incoming: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...ou-need-to-know.18770248/page-3#post-30533843

 

[cdawall]

Yes, of course... this is assuming you have a sufficient board to drive it.

Keep those back of socket coolers and spot VRM cooling handy...................

Feels like an old story over again.

 

[Vayra86]

Exactly. The thing uses XFR to hit 4.1 GHz... and that's on one core also (full core boost is 3.7Ghz). Running all cores past 4ghz will be a struggle on some air solutions. I don't see much past 4.4ghz on custom water.

Precisely the reason indeed to stay away from the 8c/16t for gaming. It's not rocket science, it's been the dominant idea in the past decade and for as long as there is a platform above the quad core mainstream that consistently clocks lower.

The real question here, or at least to me, is therefore the OC capability not of the R7's but of the R5's and lower part of the product stack. If AMD can put out a 6c/12t that hits 4.5 on air at the aforementioned price points... that's one killer cpu.

The 'easily achievable' clock on air is the one thing that's really going to be the key factor in determining whether the AMD product is inferior or not. If you need water to achieve a clock that Intel CPUs can already hit on a 20 dollar air cooler, then that automatically adds a price/effort/risk premium to the AMD cpu in a like-for-like comparison, add some silicon lottery uncertainty on top and it's all too easy going back to Intel again. In that light, I completely understand why the R5 is 'waiting it out' for Q2. Let the dust settle and give them time to get better yields, allowing XFR to stretch its legs, while the super-eager AMD fans buy into the top tier of the product stack like they would've done anyway.

Summer's also a great time to build systems imo. You get realistic temps and set everything for worst case room temperatures right off the bat. I can see some upgrading plans materializing here ^^

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

5.2GHz and 1.85V on LN2? That sounds terrible, even keeping in mind it's an 8 core CPU. So, on air cooling 4.3GHz at best?

And Intel usually manages to launch almost full CPU lineup at same time. At least few CPUs from each category (Celeron, Pentium, i3, i5, i7).

Id agree its not amazing but it still got a world record cinebench score and its not too shabby for attempt 1 stepping 1 well 2 maybe and im not so sure your getting binning,, they(intel) have many cores being binned into the same range so yeah sort of ,plus they sell old and new shit at the same time Hedt for example so they have it easier then they would with 1 new chip.

Exactly. The thing uses XFR to hit 4.1 GHz... and that's on one core also (full core boost is 3.7Ghz). Running all cores past 4ghz will be a struggle on some air solutions. I don't see much past 4.4ghz on custom water.

it would still be very potent for its price , and its possible the quad and six core variants might have a bit more thermal and power headroom to run a bit quicker but its clear yet again, but as with intel, A Decent cooler Is required.

im ready but even with custard i cant throw down on one , damn quaterly bills , ill try and buy one bit so no one buy memory this weekend please , i dont want prices inflating.

 

[Vayra86]

Id agree its not amazing but it still got a world record cinebench score and its not too shabby for attempt 1 stepping 1 well 2 maybe


it would still be very potent for its price , and its possible the quad and six core variants might have a bit more thermal and power headroom to run a bit quicker but its clear yet again, but as with intel, A Decent cooler Is required.

im ready but even with custard i cant throw down on one , damn quaterly bills , ill try and buy one bit so no one buy memory this weekend please , i dont want prices inflating.

Yeah prices of memory are completely screwed once more.

I fucking hate smartphones for causing this.

 

[EarthDog]

Id agree its not amazing but it still got a world record cinebench score..



it would still be very potent for its price , and its possible the quad and six core variants might have a bit more thermal and power headroom to run a bit quicker but its clear yet again, but as with intel, A Decent cooler Is required.

im ready but even with custard i cant throw down on one , damn quaterly bills , ill try and buy one bit so no one buy memory this weekend please , i dont want prices inflating.

I think what we are going to see here is a much better efficiency of SMT over HT. I think we'llc still find aN IPC deficit, but they are most certainly back in the game at their pricing.