well this alone can expalin why pc gaming is going to die
well this alone can expalin why pc gaming is going to die
System Name | BY-2021 |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (65w eco profile) |
Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
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Software | W10 |
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Well it's not like AMD will hit them in their bread & butter laptop segment with Ryzen APU &/or Vega mGPU is it? Then there's Knights Hill & Knights Mill targeting the even more lucrative HPC segment, the analysts are wary & rightfully so.Say the fuck what? A couple of shysters essentially play the market to reduce Nvidia stock price to buy stocks themselves before they release a 1080ti that will probably help stock price again. This is why the share markets and share 'values' are just plain evil. Creating wealth out of nothing and destroying value by rumour. It's absolutely insane.
Have they even read this stuff:
http://jonpeddie.com/publications/pc_gaming_hardware_market_report
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi) |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury |
Video Card(s) | Gainward RTX4070ti |
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Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
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Power Supply | be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0) |
Software | W10 |
Well it's not like AMD will hit them in their bread & butter laptop segment with Ryzen APU &/or Vega mGPU is it? Then there's Knights Hill & Knights Mill targeting the even more lucrative HPC segment, the analysts are wary & rightfully so.
The Titan or 1080Ti will not bail Nvidia out if any or both of these companies succeed in the target(ed) areas.
Don't see anything wrong with ~ "valuation and a tempered outlook for gaming."Read the OP. That's what I'm responding to in the quote you have used from me.
Gaming in decline....
No. It's not.
As for other things, yes - absolutely true. But the actual surge was off the back of the AI investment and touting. As little as Nvidia's income is from AI and autonomous vehicles, it was that which pumped up their share price - not so much the gfx division.
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Cooling | Corsair Hydro H115i Platinum |
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Mouse | Corsair M65 Pro (not recommded, I am on my second mouse with same defect) |
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Benchmark Scores | Yes I am Intel fanboy that is my benchmark score. |
What are you smoking? I never saw a GFX card over $800CAD untill nVidia made it so. Now it's normal??? WTF
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Motherboard | Gigabyte G1 Z170N ITX |
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I'd sure like that chart adjusted to show the selling price of each over time not just MSRP points(not sure what price they are showing), as that's where eithers value proposition does become evident in the "between" of such points.As for historical prices - inflation adjusted from a Reddit post:
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism |
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Case | Antec 1200 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX-850 |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Logitech UltraX |
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System Name | cryohellinc PC |
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Processor | i7-4770k @4.5ghz |
Motherboard | MSI Z87 MPOWER |
Cooling | Corsair Hydro Series™ H115i |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 16gb @1600mhz |
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Processor | Core i9-9900k |
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Motherboard | ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6 |
Cooling | All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax ETS-T50 Black CPU cooler |
Memory | 32GB (2x16) Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB |
Storage | 1x 1TB MX500 (OS); 2x 6TB WD Black; 1x 2TB MX500; 1x 1TB BX500 SSD; 1x 6TB WD Blue storage (eSATA) |
Display(s) | Infievo 27" 165Hz @ 2560 x 1440 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 Black -windowed |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster Z |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX-1000 Gold |
Mouse | Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!) |
Keyboard | Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches) |
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I'm glad you said what I was about to as soon as I saw the article. Two fuckheads who have probably never gamed a day in their life because they dream nerd-number accounting and stock market analyst graphs in technicolor decide gaming outlook is grim. Boom, stock drops. DA FUQ?!!Say the fuck what? A couple of shysters essentially play the market to reduce Nvidia stock price to buy stocks themselves before they release a 1080ti that will probably help stock price again. This is why the share markets and share 'values' are just plain evil. Creating wealth out of nothing and destroying value by rumour. It's absolutely insane.
Have they even read this stuff:
http://jonpeddie.com/publications/pc_gaming_hardware_market_report
Analyst=Unqualified to flip a burger.
what kind of fallacy is this? hardware is priced in USD, when the CAD drops, we pay more http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=CAD&to=USD&view=5YWhat are you smoking? I never saw a GFX card over $800CAD untill nVidia made it so. Now it's normal??? WTF
did you not check amd? 6x increase in under a year!Just went and had a peak on nvidia stock price.. damn... skyrocketed in just 2 years o_0. Was it because of Pascal and the non existent competition?
System Name | BY-2021 |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (65w eco profile) |
Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Scythe Mugen (rev 5) |
Memory | 2 x Kingston HyperX DDR4-3200 32 GiB |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro, Seagate Exos X20 TB 7200 RPM |
Display(s) | Nixeus NX-EDG274K (3840x2160@144 DP) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW (1440x900@60 HDMI-DVI) |
Case | Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay + USB 3.2 (A+C) 3.5" bay |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+ |
Power Supply | Enermax Platimax 850w |
Mouse | Nixeus REVEL-X |
Keyboard | Tesoro Excalibur |
Software | Windows 10 Home 64-bit |
Benchmark Scores | Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare. |
Nope, deep learning especially the auto industry. It's the "next big thing" and NVIDIA was miles ahead of everyone else so investors threw money at them. That market has kind of been saturated now (not many buyers) in addition to the whole Intel licensing deal ending is a one-two punch that caused these credit rating services to degrade NVIDIA.Just went and had a peak on nvidia stock price.. damn... skyrocketed in just 2 years o_0. Was it because of Pascal and the non existent competition?
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Motherboard | ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6 |
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Memory | 32GB (2x16) Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200 |
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Display(s) | Infievo 27" 165Hz @ 2560 x 1440 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 Black -windowed |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster Z |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX-1000 Gold |
Mouse | Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!) |
Keyboard | Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches) |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed) |
Let´s be honest, 95% of PC revenue comes from free to play, Moba, RTS, MMO, CS:GO titles. Low demanding games where most of the userbase is.
The userbase running Watch Dogs 2 or some other ubisoft/activision console port at 1440p 144hz extra textures, by brute forcing it with a 500€ GPU, are a ... NICHE.
Say the fuck what? A couple of shysters essentially play the market to reduce Nvidia stock price to buy stocks themselves before they release a 1080ti that will probably help stock price again. This is why the share markets and share 'values' are just plain evil. Creating wealth out of nothing and destroying value by rumour. It's absolutely insane.
Have they even read this stuff:
http://jonpeddie.com/publications/pc_gaming_hardware_market_report
JPR said:Year-to-year total GPU shipments decreased 1.9%, desktop graphics decreased 3% notebooks decreased 1%.
The overall PC market increased 3.96% quarter-to-quarter, and decreased 3.55% year-to-year.
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Mouse | Logitech G303 Daedalus Apex/Razer Abyssus/- |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Red/Steelseries Apex Raw/Logitech K400 |
Software | Win10/FreeNAS 9.3/KodiBuntu |
We are looking way too much at 'how is gaming doing' and way too little at 'What is Nvidia'
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
I have to agree with you here. Prices are higher then ever since there is no real competition in the market right now.