Ryzen benchmarking and overclocking results

[AsRock]

No Raisins for me i guess:

Overclocked CPUs:

LMFAO, benchmarks with Arma HAHAHAHAHHA, sorry you cannot trust benchmarks from that game and probably the reason W!zzard don't do them for it too.

Never mind the point if you had a 1080GTX you would at least use nVidia's version of AMD's VSR.

 

[phanbuey]

LMFAO, benchmarks with Arma HAHAHAHAHHA, sorry you cannot trust benchmarks from that game and probably the reason W!zzard don't do them for it too.

Never mind the point if you had a 1080GTX you would at least use nVidia's version of AMD's VSR.

You mean "D"SR?

man I cant find a ryzen to save my life... even the FRY's in Austin said they had no inventory because "Typical AMD shipment hasn't come in" and the amazon is full of lies... preorder my ass.

 

[cadaveca]

man I cant find a ryzen to save my life... even the FRY's in Austin said they had no inventory because "Typical AMD shipment hasn't come in" and the amazon is full of lies... preorder my ass.

still stock local... if you wanna pay shipping and exchange... I'll pick it up for ya. Who knows what stock they'll have in the morning, but given these prices...

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX65529

 

[phanbuey]

still stock local... if you wanna pay shipping and exchange... I'll pick it up for ya. Who knows what stock they'll have in the morning, but given these prices...

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX65529

jesus... nah I'm good for that price.

I was thinking of cancelling the 1800x and going with the 1700 since they seem to hit the same wall, and getting a B350 since they might all top at 4.0ish on all cores anyways.

would save like $200

 

[TheGuruStud]

You mean "D"SR?

man I cant find a ryzen to save my life... even the FRY's in Austin said they had no inventory because "Typical AMD shipment hasn't come in" and the amazon is full of lies... preorder my ass.

There's tons of each model at microcenter, here lol

 

[thesmokingman]

jesus... nah I'm good for that price.

I was thinking of cancelling the 1800x and going with the 1700 since they seem to hit the same wall, and getting a B350 since they might all top at 4.0ish on all cores anyways.

would save like $200

That's a good bet.

 

[cadaveca]

jesus... nah I'm good for that price.

I was thinking of cancelling the 1800x and going with the 1700 since they seem to hit the same wall, and getting a B350 since they might all top at 4.0ish on all cores anyways.

would save like $200

Personally, I'm liking how the 1700 looks myself, but not knowing how they clock on average has me hesitate sicne my 1700X isn't a stellar chip... but perhaps the 1700 is better than the 1700X (65W vs 95W)...

BTW, My 1700X doesn't get 4 GHZ... not even close.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Personally, I'm liking how the 1700 looks myself, but not knowing how they clock on average has me hesitate sicne my 1700X isn't a stellar chip... but perhaps the 1700 is better than the 1700X (65W vs 95W)...

BTW, My 1700X doesn't get 4 GHZ... not even close.

I've been reading how half assed the options are. It sure was rushed.

 

[AsRock]

You mean "D"SR?

man I cant find a ryzen to save my life... even the FRY's in Austin said they had no inventory because "Typical AMD shipment hasn't come in" and the amazon is full of lies... preorder my ass.

No idea you would have a better idea on that, not used a nVidia card for a fair bit of time now.

 

[Naito]

It seems many aspects of computing have taken the "release now, debug later" approach. Anything from games to operating systems and now even the humble BIOS. Members of the general public are now the beta testers.

 

[phanbuey]

Personally, I'm liking how the 1700 looks myself, but not knowing how they clock on average has me hesitate sicne my 1700X isn't a stellar chip... but perhaps the 1700 is better than the 1700X (65W vs 95W)...

BTW, My 1700X doesn't get 4 GHZ... not even close.

check out the overclockers.com review... the 1700 clocked the highest of all 3... not sure if its a fluke or the fact that its a lower power design but honestly, if they all generally hit 4ghzish then no point in paying for 1800x... i was assuming a binning process of some kind but... it is AMD, not sure they are that organized.

 

[cdawall]

There's tons of each model at microcenter, here lol

20k chips to the chain splits to about 900 per store.

check out the overclockers.com review... the 1700 clocked the highest of all 3... not sure if its a fluke or the fact that its a lower power design but honestly, if they all generally hit 4ghzish then no point in paying for 1800x... i was assuming a binning process of some kind but... it is AMD, not sure they are that organized.

AMD doesn't care if they overclock. Remember people overclocking are far and few between. The binning between the models is just like the 9370/9590 and then e chips of the fx generation.

1700x will be a high leak poor performing chip, 1800x will be a high leak good performing chip and the 1700 will be a low leak chip.

Under cold there is a good chance the 1700X could perform better, but on ambient cooling it will likely fall to the 1700 overall.

Now I could be off base, but that is my experience.

 

[The Pack]

My little Ryzen review.

To start off I am overall very impressed with the product, however the thing that left me angry was the feeling that it was released before it was done. To start things off I had a retail sample board and CPU no ES markings just retail style, but the CPU and board arrived pre-used and updated to a newer BIOS than what ships to the retail market.

Couple of distinct things to notice here the new bracket for AM4 works just fine with the older AM3 coolers that use the normal mounting style. I went ahead and tested this with the older generation Wraith cooler.

However it turns out the Asus is way ahead of that and has double drilled the board for AM3's older style. Just a heads up using the other hole set is a bit particular with coolers. The height is not the same so I ran into an issue when using EK's waterblock where if you tighten the fasteners more than one to two turns the system would not post. Be very careful when selecting coolers for these systems and if it doesn't post back the screws out.

Finished product yielded excellent temperatures. Under load the CPU did not exceed 61C with an overclock on both the CPU and GPU. This is using the standard EK 280 kit with a couple modifications, using the shorter reservoir to clear the card and downgraded the fans for LED Thermaltake rings. There is next to no noise produced and the BIOS is set to extreme silence.

Now onto the actual usage of the parts. I went ahead and stuck to the normal batch of benchmarks found on hwbot. Performance was all done at my maximum stable clock of 4075mhz@1.475v, ram@3200 18-17-17-29 1T. Maximum temperatures again were 61C during all of the testing and maximum power pulled at the wall for the whole system under CPU only testing was 260w.

Getting this unit stable is what brings me to the "unfinished product" belief the BIOS was nothing short of a joke. I have played with some pre-release ECS products that had a more complete BIOS than this does. Half of the settings wouldn't save and the first board I had just up and died on me. This led to the swap to an actual retail board that wouldn't post until it was flashed using the Asus crash free utility. Currently the only useful BIOS I have found is 0601 and 0702 I wouldn't bother with any of the others.

It is a common issue to set something in the BIOS have it reboot and appear to be at that setting in the BIOS and end up in windows at stock settings. This is especially true with the ram. The ram on this is just a joke it is lacking all tertiary timing control and of the timings that were provided Cas Latency doesn't even work. If you set the ram speed expect to change it to one lower, reboot and then set what you actually wanted otherwise it will stick at 2133mhz.

After all of that nonsense I was lucky to know chew* who lovingly informed me of the memory hole that exists for 3200-3600mhz. That fixed a handful of stability problems I was having and led to my final choice of clocks (40.75x100). I had been testing the unit at 40.25x101 prior. I went as far as 362x for memory speed at 18-19-19-39 1T which is the rating of this kit, it would not stay stable in super pi 32m so it isn't worth really noting outside of one strange little thing. Remember when I said I was using a "retail sample" CPU? Well the actual retail CPU I grabbed which was a 3 week newer chip actually couldn't even POST with the ram at 36xx. That CPU was set aside and all testing was completed on the original sample provided.

I have provided a handful of 3dmark Firestrike runs as well each run was done once with the GPU at stock and once with the GPU overclocked. All GPU overclocked runs had the GPU boosting to 2138mhz on the core and ram at 2250. Maximum load temp on the GPU was 45C, maximum power consumed was 370w at the wall for the full system.

My overall impression of the platform is wait a few weeks for the kinks to be pushed out. Right now it is not ready for retail sales in my opinion. Performance however was excellent. All of the chips regardless of model seem to clock the same, so save a couple bucks and grab the R7 1700 and use that saved money for a good cooler.



Also big thanks to chew* on XS as per usual he was able to walk me through some difficulties I had with the new product.

1.52v for 4.07GHz...?

 

[cdawall]

1.52v for 4.07GHz...?

1.475v in the bios with level 3 vdroop enabled

 

[The Pack]

1.475v in the bios with level 3 vdroop enabled

uff...i don`t know what i want to think about this...and than, 4.5GHz@1.8v...? 95W TDP...?

 

[cdawall]

uff...i don`t know what i want to think about this...and than, 4.5GHz@1.8v...? 95W TDP...?

1.475v seems to be about all they can take without stability issues on ambient temps.

 

[The Pack]

Aha...but you are on air...?

 

[cdawall]

Aha...but you are on air...?

Water

 

[The Pack]

Water

Uff...perhaps it's here a siliconlottery too...

 

[cdawall]

Uff...perhaps it's here a siliconlottery too...

The second retail chip I grabbed topped out about the same slightly lower voltage, but couldn't clock ram as high.

 

[laszlo]

i checked almost all reviews and noticed that those using an amd gpu don't show such big gaming differences like those using nvidia... i'm wrong?

 

[The Pack]

i checked almost all reviews and noticed that those using an amd gpu don't show such big gaming differences like those using nvidia... i'm wrong?

But a lot of lower watts...

 

[the54thvoid]

The AMD GPU at 1080p will face a lower frame rate than a GTX1080. Those lower FPS will show less on the CPU. Not saying GPU bottleneck but that's the angle.
A high throughput of FPS from a more powerful Nvidia card will cause the CPU to struggle, that's why the 7700k does so well with it's far higher clocks speeds.

 

[laszlo]

The AMD GPU at 1080p will face a lower frame rate than a GTX1080. Those lower FPS will show less on the CPU. Not saying GPU bottleneck but that's the angle.
A high throughput of FPS from a more powerful Nvidia card will cause the CPU to struggle, that's why the 7700k does so well with it's far higher clocks speeds.

but how you explain that cpu is used only 70-80%

 

[BiggieShady]

My 1700X doesn't get 4 GHZ... not even close.

The second retail chip I grabbed topped out about the same slightly lower voltage, but couldn't clock ram as high.

Ah dammit, looks like only 1800X ones consistently hit over 4 GHz on all cores and 3000 MHz on two memory sticks ... that's some tight binning, no wonder they have gazzilion sensors