Ryzen benchmarking and overclocking results

[The Pack]

Ah dammit, looks like only 1800X ones consistently hit over 4 GHz on all cores and 3000 MHz on two memory sticks ... that's some tight binning, no wonder they have gazzilion sensors

These sensors stop the oc? These can't more...?

 

[the54thvoid]

So...

If AMD work with Devs who can then better code on the CPU side (not for DX12) but AMD's hardware and instructions, we can assume a better gaming performance?

And, if games try to use more cores (not threads) as time goes on, will the Ryzen chips have a nice longevity?

Right now I am swaying between an 1800X and a 7700k. To be fair, I could wait a little longer for Skylake-E. But if Skylake-E clocks like Broadwell-E, well, may as well go Ryzen.

If games don't move to over 4 core usage in 1-3 years, may as we'll stick to Intel 4 core?

What to do people?

 

[FYFI13]

LMFAO, benchmarks with Arma HAHAHAHAHHA, sorry you cannot trust benchmarks from that game

You can benchmark that game just fine, just need to know the game and how to do it. Results are very comparable.

probably the reason W!zzard don't do them for it too.

W!zzard has done 1 CPU review since 2011. And it was more like 6700K vs 7700k, no other CPU's. Benching Arma 3 on different graphics cards is almost pointless, i do agree. We're talking about processors.

Never mind the point if you had a 1080GTX you would at least use nVidia's version of AMD's VSR.

1. You can scale 3D resolution in game without DSR, VSR or any other techs. It's built in.
2. Increasing resolution in Arma 3 does hit CPU performance, despite of what graphics card you're using.

Have you even tried this game?

 

[Xzibit]

So...

If AMD work with Devs who can then better code on the CPU side (not for DX12) but AMD's hardware and instructions, we can assume a better gaming performance?

And, if games try to use more cores (not threads) as time goes on, will the Ryzen chips have a nice longevity?

Right now I am swaying between an 1800X and a 7700k. To be fair, I could wait a little longer for Skylake-E. But if Skylake-E clocks like Broadwell-E, well, may as well go Ryzen.

If games don't move to over 4 core usage in 1-3 years, may as we'll stick to Intel 4 core?

What to do people?

I would say maybe but might just be with-in 5%

Maybe. Porting titles wont cramp so much during the process. XB1 and PS4 uses more cores at lower fqz. AMD did emphasize it on one of the Q&As.

Isn't Intel introducing 6c next cycle even if they will have a high price the field will be slightly moving toward more cores, affordable cores.
I'm waiting for the 5 1600 and seeing how things shape out if not i'll just build a 7700 (mATX). Lower power and I don't want to OC (increase 20-50w just for 5-10fps more that's a 3rd to half of power) and avoiding AIO coolers.

 

[Crap Daddy]

So...

If AMD work with Devs who can then better code on the CPU side (not for DX12) but AMD's hardware and instructions, we can assume a better gaming performance?

And, if games try to use more cores (not threads) as time goes on, will the Ryzen chips have a nice longevity?

Right now I am swaying between an 1800X and a 7700k. To be fair, I could wait a little longer for Skylake-E. But if Skylake-E clocks like Broadwell-E, well, may as well go Ryzen.

If games don't move to over 4 core usage in 1-3 years, may as we'll stick to Intel 4 core?

What to do people?

Don't buy into this Ryzen hype. As far as I can see in exchange of 8 cores and 16 threads you get a buggy platform, limited overclocking potential and not adequate gaming performance. All this for not quite cheap. On the other hand it's obvious that Intel has to move the 8c16T parts towards a more "friendly" price and kudos to AMD for pushing it. I think this is the way to go for an enthusiast system that you want to last for a few good years. What you have right now is still good enough to wait and see what Skylake-E will bring in order to cover all bases, that is if money is not a problem. A quick resolve would be of course the 7700k.

 

[Folterknecht]

So...

To be fair, I could wait a little longer for Skylake-E. But if Skylake-E clocks like Broadwell-E, well, may as well go Ryzen.


What to do people?

Think about it - on desktop Haswell was an ok to good overclocker and Broadwell was mehhh. The same trend we later saw on X99.
Now look at Skylake/Kabylake - on the desktop side of things they reach even higher speeds than Haswell, so it stands to reason that on HEDT Skylake will also reach good speeds, if the trend continues and why shouldn't it?

 

[pantherx12]

I'm shocked at the negativity around these new CPUs.

They seem to slot in nicely into the market, clock for clock performance is competitive and they really do well in highly threaded tasks.

It seems the major flaw at the moment is low clock speeds but that will come with future revisions. And that ought to alleviate mediocre gaming performance how ever we still shouldn't expect very high clocks out of an 8 core part straight out the gate. ( perhaps Ryzen 5 and 3 will be the ones to get for people that only game)

The Smt related bugs can hopefully be sorted with software and the ram stuff...

Well the ram stuff could genuinely be a huge issue we'll have to wait and see.


Over all I'm quite impressed, fingers crossed AMD can pull higher clock speeds out of this design are then it will be truly competitive not just on multi tasking.

 

[BiggieShady]

These sensors stop the oc? These can't more...?

Heaps of built-in sensors used not only for precise dynamic OC with high granularity but also to extract frequency/voltage curve during the binning process.
What stops OC is the fact they binned chips so tightly, very little oc headroom is left.

 

[Fluffmeister]

So...

If AMD work with Devs who can then better code on the CPU side (not for DX12) but AMD's hardware and instructions, we can assume a better gaming performance?

And, if games try to use more cores (not threads) as time goes on, will the Ryzen chips have a nice longevity?

Right now I am swaying between an 1800X and a 7700k. To be fair, I could wait a little longer for Skylake-E. But if Skylake-E clocks like Broadwell-E, well, may as well go Ryzen.

If games don't move to over 4 core usage in 1-3 years, may as we'll stick to Intel 4 core?

What to do people?

I'm in the same boat, although i was looking at the 1700 non-x, meh I'm torn because Ryzen excels in many areas but they happen to be in workloads my PC never sees.

For the same cash as the 1700 I can grab a 7700K.

Reading Ryzen reviews was like death by snu snu.

 

[dorsetknob]

Reading Ryzen reviews was like death by snu snu.

 

[BiggieShady]

Reading Ryzen reviews was like death by snu snu.

By the large women ... then by the petite women ... then by the large women again

 

[petepete]

So happy I didn't drop 659+tax Canadian to get one of these for gaming and instead got the 7700k

 

[W1zzard]

Just back home from San Francisco, starting Ryzen testing now.

 

[cdawall]

Just back home from San Francisco, starting Ryzen testing now.

You are welcome to send them to me when you are all don't to test again I'll re-review it for you.

 

[phanbuey]

but how you explain that cpu is used only 70-80%

Because the bottleneck is not the raw ability to crunch.

 

[alucasa]

I'm shocked at the negativity around these new CPUs.

They seem to slot in nicely into the market, clock for clock performance is competitive and they really do well in highly threaded tasks.

It seems the major flaw at the moment is low clock speeds but that will come with future revisions. And that ought to alleviate mediocre gaming performance how ever we still shouldn't expect very high clocks out of an 8 core part straight out the gate. ( perhaps Ryzen 5 and 3 will be the ones to get for people that only game)

The Smt related bugs can hopefully be sorted with software and the ram stuff...

Well the ram stuff could genuinely be a huge issue we'll have to wait and see.


Over all I'm quite impressed, fingers crossed AMD can pull higher clock speeds out of this design are then it will be truly competitive not just on multi tasking.

It's a direct result of over hype.

 

[phanbuey]

It's a direct result of over hype.

I guess... I mean I read all of the hype and none of it was off base... I think alot of people made some assumptions that were rather unrealistic which were never actually said by amd. This was nothing like bulldozer or the 2900XT debacles.

not to mention, the 7700K and the 6700K smoke intel's own HEDT chips in gaming.... hell the 7600K games better than most of the HEDT chips.

 

[alucasa]

The "leaks" were mostly accurate. But, when there is over hyping, those who fall for it tend to see such upcoming products as "holy grail" of some sort.

In short, in their deluded minds, Ryzen was supposed to completely, utterly, destroy Intel's offerings.

Reality is it does not, hence the anger for the time being.

Remember: AMD"s official benchmark program was Blender, meaning they knew Ryzen would be a workstation chip.

 

[Steevo]

Just back home from San Francisco, starting Ryzen testing now.

Can we get some Prime and other math love, and on all cores, and at set priority and lots of other ways too? Any difference in running the test multiple times, back to back or after reboot to see if the "Predictive AI" works or if its just fluff?

 

[EarthDog]

We tested WPrime and Super Pi at OCF...

 

[TheGuruStud]

Can we get some Prime and other math love, and on all cores, and at set priority and lots of other ways too? Any difference in running the test multiple times, back to back or after reboot to see if the "Predictive AI" works or if its just fluff?

It can't store info after the process isn't running is what I read.

 

[cdawall]

We tested WPrime and Super Pi at OCF...

I tested them in this thread...

 

[Steevo]

I tested them in this thread...

I will have to look at yours, I found some others already, still a bit weak in pure math though. I was curious about the AI or if it was more of a Fail I.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I guess... I mean I read all of the hype and none of it was off base... I think alot of people made some assumptions that were rather unrealistic which were never actually said by amd. This was nothing like bulldozer or the 2900XT debacles.

not to mention, the 7700K and the 6700K smoke intel's own HEDT chips in gaming.... hell the 7600K games better than most of the HEDT chips.

exactly but lets not also forget that a heavily clocked i3 can beat all of them and more in Some games as @FYFI13 confusingly just states against amd

Amd did well in my honest ,subjective and educated opinion , lets see how it pans out in the next year ,it will be more interesting then last year definitely.

 

[alucasa]

One core to rule all.