X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[johnspack]

Don't know if anyone has dealt with this, but it seems with an E5 cpu on most mobos, gen3 doesn't get enabled on nvidia cards. Mine showed only gen2 available. With a little registry addition, that gets fixed:
http://forums.evga.com/How-to-enable-PCIE-30-in-Windows-7-m1607292.aspx Here's mine after applying, and testing multiple games to make sure it worked:

 

[johnspack]

Still playing with it now seems a cherry chip... was so stable at 4.5 at 1.33v, decided to go 4.6. Just run a battery of benchmarks ect, still testing but here's my little puppy at 4.6!

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Don't know if anyone has dealt with this, but it seems with an E5 cpu on most mobos, gen3 doesn't get enabled on nvidia cards. Mine showed only gen2 available. With a little registry addition, that gets fixed:
http://forums.evga.com/How-to-enable-PCIE-30-in-Windows-7-m1607292.aspx Here's mine after applying, and testing multiple games to make sure it worked:

Yeah mine says pcie 2.0 no matter what. However I do NOT have an E5 but regardless I went to video directory and it looks nothing like they describe...so not sure what that "video" folder/s should look like because when I went to it nothing corresponded to the directions. This is what my folders look like...

 

[johnspack]

You have to find the sub folder, when you see your graphics card info like this:

See how I added RMPcieLinkSpeed in there?

 

[johnspack]

Sorry, going to double post because I can't explain it right in the last one... look towards the bottom, you'll see RMPcieLinkSpeed, it has a hex value of 4. That puts your card into gen3 mode.
Also, if you have SB-E, and not SB-EP like a xeon, you don't have gen3 and can't enable it....

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Hmm...but i opened the folders and those 0000.00001 etc didn't exist....

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Thanks, I had to open every folder and hunt it down...not sure why I had so many folders and some seemed redundant and several did not have the 0000 etc but found proper folder that was gtx 980ti added the registry key with proper value etc...and PCI E 3.0. ! Thanks for the "hack" till I get an affordable Ivy to drop in here lol.

 

[Kanan]

Don't know if anyone has dealt with this, but it seems with an E5 cpu on most mobos, gen3 doesn't get enabled on nvidia cards. Mine showed only gen2 available. With a little registry addition, that gets fixed:
http://forums.evga.com/How-to-enable-PCIE-30-in-Windows-7-m1607292.aspx Here's mine after applying, and testing multiple games to make sure it worked:

Yeah I'm using this since I got the X79 system, first with the i7 3820 and now with the 3960X - no problems, everything works fine with the 780 Ti.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Also using this on my setup... like xanax after each driver update.

 

[Kanan]

Also using this on my setup... like xanax after each driver update.

The way I did it, changing drivers isn't breaking PCI-E 3.0. I only did it again once after switching the OS from 8.1 to 10.

I used this:
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3135/~/geforce-gen3-support-on-x79-platform

Use via DOS prompt in Admin mode when you do this in Win 10 or it will not work.

 

[johnspack]

Problem is, sb-e does not have gen3, only sb-ep and ib-e and up. 3xxx series do not have native gen3.....

 

[Kanan]

It does, and I'm using it since 2013 - also read the link I provided. SB-E / X79 is the first PCI-E 3.0 compliant platform.

 

[johnspack]

Then Intel is lying! here is your cpu specs: http://ark.intel.com/products/63696...ssor-Extreme-Edition-15M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
Mine.. http://ark.intel.com/products/64601...-E5-1650-12M-Cache-3_20-GHz-0_0-GTs-Intel-QPI
You do understand you need a gen3 compliant CPU as well right?

 

[Random Murderer]

Problem is, sb-e does not have gen3, only sb-ep and ib-e and up. 3xxx series do not have native gen3.....

It does, and I'm using it since 2013 - also read the link I provided. SB-E / X79 is the first PCI-E 3.0 compliant platform.

Then Intel is lying! here is your cpu specs: http://ark.intel.com/products/63696...ssor-Extreme-Edition-15M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
Mine.. http://ark.intel.com/products/64601...-E5-1650-12M-Cache-3_20-GHz-0_0-GTs-Intel-QPI
You do understand you need a gen3 compliant CPU as well right?

SB-E does not officially support PCIe 3.0 according to Intel, but the majority of motherboards out there have an option to force 3.0 support in BIOS. I know my RIVE does, and even on my 3820, PCIe 3.0 worked flawlessly, no registry hack needed (but, to be fair, I haven't used an Nvidia card in this build except for PhysX, and those cards didn't support PCIe 3.0 anyway)

 

[Kanan]

Yeah the magic word here is "officialy". Intel didn't officially support it, but it was proven from the get-go that PCI-E 3.0 worked and is inofficially supported. Here's just an example: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5264/sandy-bridge-e-x79-pcie-30-it-works

Tom's also said it works:

It turns out that PCI Express 3.0 is, in fact, supported by Sandy Bridge-E (and the preview was updated to confirm 8 GT/s support the day after it went live). But because there weren’t (and still aren’t) any third-gen devices available yet, validating the feature was problematic. In fact, as you can see in the image below, Intel is still only officially guaranteeing that PCI Express 2.0 works, and probably will continue to do so until we see some hardware with a third-gen interface.

Nevertheless, Intel’s Core i7 datasheet confirms PCI Express 3.0 compliance, enabling up to 1 GB/s of bandwidth per lane, per direction.

"1 GB/s each" = it's PCI-E 3.0 speed.

 

[johnspack]

Anyone with x79 and Asmedia controller, disable usb3 legacy support in uefi. Your ports will work properly after! If you experienced weird continuous lags on your system, this is why.
Has nothing to do with the drivers. The asus drivers on the asus site works for mine.
P9X79 Pro here.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Hi all, sorry been a busy month and just haven't done much with PC to even talk about. But I shall be back shortly! What got me here is just fyi that e5-1680v2 8 core for x79 with all the success of Ryzen is coming down in price. No, it isn't reasonable but 750$ is least and 999 at most currently on ebay...before the cheapest I found was 1050! That was before and right around time Ryzen hit. So at least 25% less perhaps more when you average in the crazy high prices I saw. Anyway that's significant movement considering Ryzen hasn't been out long and just now released 6 core etc and those are very good for the price as well as very efficient watts-wise. So I say this now because soon you may get x79 stuff much more reasonably including Mobo's etc so keep an eye out.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah I saw those prices as well, some movement, but still not enough. I hope it moves more by the time I want to upgrade my CPU again.

btw. welcome back, seems you're still alive!

 

[dalekdukesboy]

HAHA! Hey NO one including you posted here in a month ONLY Johnspack with that one April post. Plus like I said I have a lot going on and had zero to report or comment on my pc etc I was reading news on here but other than that had nothing to say lol. But yeah point taken thread literally was asleep for all of March/part of April. Actually kinda good, you need a break...been doing the Twitter thing and other places. I own several turtles so on their forum as well. Honestly I can say TOO much is online that is interesting you can spend your whole day and life here and not read/contribute/post to everything you want to! Anyway those prices I hadn't checked since roughly my last post here and when Ryzen first dropped and at that point nothing had budged an inch...I figured it would take at least a couple weeks/month to have enough sales and drops in x99 and whole Intel line of current products to devalue the relative worth of an x79 product. It's technically a rare and defunct/niche part so it's more insulated from price movement than current product; however that said I think it's even more encouraging that in only a month'ish since Ryzen first sold it dropped 25% + and I'm seeing more of them out there as people realize they need to sell it sooner than later because its' value is plummeting. Long as we can find one I think couple months passes or more they may even be relatively reasonably priced.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah the magic word here is "officialy". Intel didn't officially support it, but it was proven from the get-go that PCI-E 3.0 worked and is inofficially supported. Here's just an example: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5264/sandy-bridge-e-x79-pcie-30-it-works

Tom's also said it works:

"1 GB/s each" = it's PCI-E 3.0 speed.

Absolutely correct. I had to do more than just the original patch that you sent me to Kanan I had to "fix" some registry keys which you or someone else pointed me to as another issue that occurs and once I did that my card is reported as pcie-3.0 and running as such.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Anyone with x79 and Asmedia controller, disable usb3 legacy support in uefi. Your ports will work properly after! If you experienced weird continuous lags on your system, this is why.
Has nothing to do with the drivers. The asus drivers on the asus site works for mine.
P9X79 Pro here.

Interesting....I will have to see what my settings on that are, I admit I forgot been a while since I've played with them but good to know and YES I do have weird lag at times etc so....great info!

 

[Kanan]

HAHA! Hey NO one including you posted here in a month ONLY Johnspack with that one April post. Plus like I said I have a lot going on and had zero to report or comment on my pc etc I was reading news on here but other than that had nothing to say lol. But yeah point taken thread literally was asleep for all of March/part of April. Actually kinda good, you need a break...been doing the Twitter thing and other places. I own several turtles so on their forum as well. Honestly I can say TOO much is online that is interesting you can spend your whole day and life here and not read/contribute/post to everything you want to! Anyway those prices I hadn't checked since roughly my last post here and when Ryzen first dropped and at that point nothing had budged an inch...I figured it would take at least a couple weeks/month to have enough sales and drops in x99 and whole Intel line of current products to devalue the relative worth of an x79 product. It's technically a rare and defunct/niche part so it's more insulated from price movement than current product; however that said I think it's even more encouraging that in only a month'ish since Ryzen first sold it dropped 25% + and I'm seeing more of them out there as people realize they need to sell it sooner than later because its' value is plummeting. Long as we can find one I think couple months passes or more they may even be relatively reasonably priced.

That's right. Haha tell me more about those Turtles.

Absolutely correct. I had to do more than just the original patch that you sent me to Kanan I had to "fix" some registry keys which you or someone else pointed me to as another issue that occurs and once I did that my card is reported as pcie-3.0 and running as such.

Yeah? Strange, I mean you're on Win 7, the PCI-E.exe works usually perfect there.

Anyone with x79 and Asmedia controller, disable usb3 legacy support in uefi. Your ports will work properly after! If you experienced weird continuous lags on your system, this is why.
Has nothing to do with the drivers. The asus drivers on the asus site works for mine.
P9X79 Pro here.

Never had any problems, but thanks.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

But this isn't a turtle forum! . Seriously though I have a separate forum where I address them, but I will get a couple pics here I need to take some recent ones as I upgrade tanks etc, have a new filter coming and fighting water clarity problems so hopefully I can get it all balanced out right...like my PC .

 

[Kanan]

But this isn't a turtle forum! . Seriously though I have a separate forum where I address them, but I will get a couple pics here I need to take some recent ones as I upgrade tanks etc, have a new filter coming and fighting water clarity problems so hopefully I can get it all balanced out right...like my PC .

Yeah np, you can send me them in PM. Now what to say to stay on topic ... uhh... everything works fine, system is still rock stable at 1.37 V @ 4.5 GHz. Did some video decoding lately which had high usage on 4 to 6 cores (including their hyper threads) and everything was stable. Yeah I'm glad I got that 3960X. I'm still angry I just got 50 bucks for my 3820 when I sold it though.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Trust me I get it, people are "impressed" by how much hardware I've sold and even a few systems I put together from stuff for other people when I upgraded...but it was essentially at a big loss and just to lose LESS than if I just held on to the parts lol. Also so I don't have a whole house full of pentium 4 and ancient video cards that would be dust collectors and big paperweights at best. Yeah I'll send you those pictures I just took a few gonna take more...yeah I've done little to none on my system that's why last month I really had nothing to say. I've had the side off of it for 2 months and such lol. Anyway eventually I'll get to it and put the final touches on securing everything so it isn't like a half open test box which it is now. Hey I still have an fx-55 Athlon in a computer drawer...worth maybe a few bucks now maybe more as "collector" piece to someone, paid a grand for it 10 years ago lol...OUCH. But I had fun with it!