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This is exciting stuff.
Was going to attempt this myself a couple yrs back with my ivy but was talked out of it by @Vario glad I didn't at the time due to lack of funds to replace. Was going to vice and hammer it lol.Thanks Vario for that. But man do I want to try at some point. Watching this thread. I'd be interested to see what happens if you do decide to go with liquid metal.
I got the CLU metal and grizzly kryonaut with me now and will have it installed tonight but won't fire it up till mid morning so I can let the sealer (gasket) cure for a bit.

I'll tag you when I post some numbers tomorrow and also let you know how the pressure fit worked out. I'll just need to YT some vids on the best way to apply the metal.

Any advice offered here on jist to ise on the die or both? Mine you there is no gap between the lid and die so just the die or ...;)
 
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Why glue back IHS, not neccesary...

for CPU bare Die you will need liquid metal, dont use any other solution there, will screw your temps even better, so lets iron the things here,
1. you must delidd, recommended method: Razor blade, be wise, dont use vice hammer method, its way to dangerous...
2. clean all glue leftovers... also TIM present there... if possible use isopropyl alcohol,
3. when everything its clean, like a mirror, you might: apply liquid metal to bare die... sit processor without his I.H.S., when processor its on its correct place you finally put lid over die, leaving it as you got it when purchased, be careful when placing lid back, close the socket clamp and call it done!

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I don't use isopropyl alcohol, I use acticlean cleaner and part 2 for metal/ die prep.. Does 100% deeper clean than ISO does plus the shit on the market these days is just that.. Shit! I used to get the good stuff @ 99% but now all we can get over the counter is 90% and it shows by leaving water behind...

You can use ISO to clean but the acticlean prep when wiped off is like a dam magnet how it just grabs the cloth. It's that clean so hopefully the CLU sticks and isn't a bugger to spread.

Any tips on how much to use on the kaby die?

Also the skylake issue with the gab between the chip and IHS isn't a problem with kaby, well mine that is and not sure if Intel finally machined it properly this time but just used shitty paste and called it done...

Is it worth doing the under side of the IHS as well? I actually used a micrometer and sized it up to the original paste imprint and scored the bottom of the IHS with it as a template if ever I need to coat the under side of the lid.
So thinner the better?

I didn't mean it as a kick in the balls, I just think you can do better.
Sorry @sneekypeet I didn't mean anything by the comment, and your right, I can do better. It was just a test to see the difference in Intel's paste and the EC extreme paste I had on hand.
 
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Any tips on how much to use on the kaby die?
just a drop, i love Coollab ultra, easier to spread, a thin layer will be fine, just avoid over paste or movin lid when already applied liquid metal,

I don't use isopropyl alcohol, I use acticlean cleaner and part 2 for metal/ die prep.. Does 100% deeper clean than ISO does plus the shit on the market these days is just that.. Shit! I used to get the good stuff @ 99% but now all we can get over the counter is 90% and it shows by leaving water behind...

You can use ISO to clean but the acticlean prep when wiped off is like a dam magnet how it just grabs the cloth. It's that clean so hopefully the CLU sticks and isn't a bugger to spread.
well i ran off arctic clean last year, but a friend gifted me a big bottle of some ether and iso alcohol, so for the moment im fine of this supply, getting myself a arctic clean kit will a fool idea since the stack i have does the work flawless, '

Is it worth doing the under side of the IHS as well?
what exactly you mean ?
 

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just a drop, i love Coollab ultra, easier to spread, a thin layer will be fine, just avoid over paste or movin lid when already applied liquid metal,


well i ran off arctic clean last year, but a friend gifted me a big bottle of some ether and iso alcohol, so for the moment im fine of this supply, getting myself a arctic clean kit will a fool idea since the stack i have does the work flawless, '


what exactly you mean ?
I use the CLU on the chip and do I also add some under the lid?
 

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I use the CLU on the chip and do I also add some under the lid?
coollab will used only at CPU die when you already delidded, over the IHS and between cooler you are free to use what ever you want, for example mine have CLU at Die, between IHS and cooler im using arctic MX 4
 

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coollab will used only at CPU die when you already delidded, over the IHS and between cooler you are free to use what ever you want, for example mine have CLU at Die, between IHS and cooler im using arctic MX 4
Yes I know but should I put some CLU under the lid too?

I'm putting it on the die and should I also put a thin layer under the lid is what I'm asking?

I got a tube of Kryonaut for the top of the IHS
 

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Yes I know but should I put some CLU under the lid too?
not necessary, well at least i haven't done it on previous successfully delidded processor that are doing ultra fine on this moment!

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I have missed some posts, did you glue back the IHS?
 

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yes let me show you what I did this afternoon..
thats completely unecesary, if already done it, dont worry, if not, dont bother to paste it back ...

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Ok remember I said the pcb warped after I delidded it?

well the glue I used held up... look how straight the pcb is, you can tell its glued from the red gasket..



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Second Delid





Notice anything missing? lol



NO RETAINING LOCK!

 

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Ok remember I said the pcb warped after I delidded it?

well the glue I used held up... look how straight the pcb is, you can tell its glued from the red gasket..



My tools



Second Delid





Notice anything missing? lol


Amazing job, well done.

Waiting for Intel new CPUs to sell mine, maybe i will glue the IHS.
 

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Ok remember I said the pcb warped after I delidded it?

well the glue I used held up... look how straight the pcb is, you can tell its glued from the red gasket..



My tools



Second Delid





Notice anything missing? lol



NO RETAINING LOCK!

well nothing moar to say!
those photos are the ones you were about to use coollab?

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Thank you, I was waiting to be jumped in the back alley again lol, thanks to you and @peche @erocker @sneekypeet for steering me in the right direction :rockout:

If I missed anyone else oh @Tallencor heres your results :toast:



well nothing moar to say!
those photos are the ones you were about to use coollab?

Regards,
Yes this is all photos of CLU

I didn't want to screw around with the lid moving so I took the locking mech off and just used the water block to hold it in place since there's no way it can move when lowering it on the chip..

tomorrow Ill take the block off and put the lock back on and check how the grizzly paste spread.
 
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Yes this is all photos of CLU

I didn't want to screw around with the lid moving so I took the locking mech off and just used the water block to hold it in place since there's no way it can move when lowering it on the chip..

tomorrow Ill take the block off and put the lock back on and check how the grizzly paste spread.
great, just be sure dont move to much lid, cuz liquid metal its a little devil sometimes and cannot be steady!

Thank you, I was waiting to be jumped in the back alley again lol, thanks to you and @peche @erocker @sneekypeet for steering me in the right direction :rockout:
no need to thank dude! thats the main reason we are here! to do out best to share and help each other! hope your chip will run colder!
Have a great day and if possible a quite nice beer! [or an amazing joint to blaze!]

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no need to thank dude! thats the main reason we are here! to do out best to share and help each other! hope your chip will run colder!
Have a great day and if possible a quite nice beer! [or an amazing joint to blaze!]

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And what I used for glue and how I glued it.



Not the prettiest but it worked

 

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And what I used for glue and how I glued it.



Not the prettiest but it worked

well, thats an interesting idea to glue back my 3770's lid in case i need to sell it !
 

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well, thats an interesting idea to glue back my 3770's lid in case i need to sell it !
yeah I thought it be a smoother glue job but the 3cc syringe and big blunt end needle wound work good applying but dam its a bit thick to come out a needle like that..

I was latterly shaking just from the force I had to apply to the plunger to get the adhesive out lol

also be sure to leave a spot with no glue on like in my picture.. It needs a vent hole I guess.
 

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yeah I thought it be a smoother glue job but the 3cc syringe and big blunt end needle wound work good applying but dam its a bit thick to come out a needle like that..

I was latterly shaking just from the force I had to apply to the plunger to get the adhesive out lol

also be sure to leave a spot with no glue on like in my picture.. It needs a vent hole I guess.
will use the idea in a near future, still dont know if i gonna replace my cpu + ram + motherboard, i was supposed to move to a skylake bassed system, but...


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