AMD Readies Ryzen 7 1800X and 1700X Packages with Wraith Max Coolers

[oxidized]

No cooler for 1600X at least not at first. If they ever release a SKU with a cooler it'll probably be this.

Well they did afterwards with 1700X and 1800X, 1700 already had it (?)

 

[toilet pepper]

Apparently, a lot of people are asking for it at the amd sub-reddit.

About the Hyper212 being better thing, this has RGB which would cool your cpu by 30° more than non rgb coolers. Seriously, this thing looks awesome if you have a windowed/tempered panel than a 212.

 

[YautjaLord]

If that OC is less than 140 W, then yes. Can you get those clocks at less than 140 W? Also yes.

What's the deal with 140W? 1800X's TDP or total system power usage? 8350 draws 125W or more yet OCs like champ, even tho it's nowhere near the performance of Zen arch. Anyway coolers for what used to be WOF is small portion of what's to "fix"/"improve", looks shiny regardless.

P.S. Gigabyte teasing the GA-AX370-Gaming-K7 page with special EK 4-pin pump & fan headers, think i'mma jump from ASUS to Gigabyte's bandwagon for my AM4 build.

*EDIT*

HSF 140W thermals ceiling! I still haven't fully recovered from yesterday, the job i have is quite nerve wrecking to say the least. lol Cheers.

 

[sweet]

Well they did afterwards with 1700X and 1800X, 1700 already had it (?)

The one comes with 1700 is Wraith, no Wraith max...

 

[Melvis]

About time....

 

[msroadkill612]

AMD launched the retail versions of its flagship Ryzen 7 1800X and second-best Ryzen 7 1700X processors in WOF (without fan-heatsink) boxed packages, similar to how Intel sells unlocked "K" and "X" series processors, such as the Core i5-7600K and Core i7-7700K. The company is giving final touches to newer packages of the two chips that include a stock cooling solution, probably addressing markets in which socket AM4-compatible aftermarket cooling solutions aren't easily available. These packages will include AMD's largest Wraith-series cooler, the Wraith Max.

Wraith Max is the company's largest stock cooling solution, and is a slight upscale of the original Wraith cooler AMD introduced with the FX-8370. It is rated for CPUs with TDP of up to 140W, and so it could make short work of the 95W Ryzen 7 1800X and 1700X chips. It consists of a dense aluminium fin-stack heatsink to which heat drawn from a copper base is conveyed by heat pipes, and ventilated by a large fan. PIB (processor in a box) retail packages of the two chips with Wraith Max will have clear markings on the box, including stylized artwork of the cooler, besides being noticeably heavier. According to ComputerBase.de, the Ryzen 7 1800X Wraith Max is priced at 579€, compared to the WOF (without fan-heatsink) package's 537€ price; while the Ryzen 7 1700X Wraith Max is priced at 460€, compared to the WOF package's 396€ price (all prices include taxes).



Source: ComputerBase.de

"It is rated for CPUs with TDP of up to 140W, and so it could make short work of the 95W Ryzen 7 1800X and 1700X chips. It consists of a dense aluminium fin-stack heatsink to which heat drawn from a copper base is conveyed by heat pipes, and ventilated by a large fan."

Well yes but isnt the issue one of absolute operating temps?

ought we not see synthesised statements in spec sheets saying e.g.?

"At room temp ttt, our cooler will maintain a xxx chip consuming yyy watts at or below zzz degrees"

That is the comparative bottom line for performance tweakerS premium cooler purchases.

Yes, air can do the job, but to go a few degrees lower, you need liquid or similar (compressed air jet supplement?)

just being the devils advocate.

it seems very pertinent now w/ ryzen - the auto, dynamic overclocking is very good, and relies on ~hundreds? of temp sensors thru out the cpu. ie - if ~any of its many processors is cool enough, it can be overclocked. A few degrees could make a big difference to throughput.

 

[oxidized]

Apparently, a lot of people are asking for it at the amd sub-reddit.

About the Hyper212 being better thing, this has RGB which would cool your cpu by 30° more than non rgb coolers. Seriously, this thing looks awesome if you have a windowed/tempered panel than a 212.

Lol. While it looks very nice and everything, i don't really thing it comes close to 212 performance, i'd definitely keep one of those, but that extra is really exaggerating, if it costs 64€ extra for the 1700X, how much could it cost in case they'd add it to the 1600X?

The one comes with 1700 is Wraith, no Wraith max...

Wraith Spire. This i know, but i was saying the 1700 already comes with a cooler. This thing with coolers is unclear, weird and very confusing.

 

[ironwolf]

That was the case with 1700X and 1800X too, but now AMD is shipping them with coolers. That's why i asked actually.

edit: also both spire and stealth will have LED ring, but iirc it won't be RGB, just redish/orange and white LED "AMD" label something like that

Pretty sure they won't have a LED ring, based on what was released info-wise as well as this pic:

 

[oxidized]

Pretty sure they won't have a LED ring, based on what was released info-wise as well as this pic:

The spire has a LED ring 100% there's few videos of it, not sure about the stealth but why should it not have it.

Oh and apparently, the spire LED ring isn't even red only, i just saw a video where it's blue

 

[ironwolf]

The spire has a LED ring 100% there's few videos of it, not sure about the stealth but why should it not have it.

Oh and apparently, the spire LED ring isn't even red only, i just saw a video where it's blue

All the sites that mentioned the Ryzen 5 must be wrong then. Multiple sites have said that the Wraith Spire cooler that will come with the 1500X/1600 is a variant w/o the LED ring.

From one of the sites:

Most Ryzen 5 processors sold at retail will also include AMD Wraith coolers. The 65W Ryzen 5 1400 will ship with a Wraith Stealth, while the Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600, which are also 65W processors, will include a Wraith Spire for high-ambient conditions. However, note that these coolers do-not feature built-in RBG light rings. Only the AMD Wraith coolers included with Ryzen 7 processors have the built-in lighting. Like the high-end Ryzen 7 1800X, the 95W Ryzen 5 1600X too will ship without a bundled cooler. AMD fully expects their Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 1600X offerings to appeal to enthusiasts who will go out and buy their own custom cooling solution.

 

[oxidized]

All the sites that mentioned the Ryzen 5 must be wrong then. Multiple sites have said that the Wraith Spire cooler that will come with the 1500X/1600 is a variant w/o the LED ring.

From one of the sites:

Alle sites? One site probably, but yeah they're wrong anyway, just go look at videos

 

[ironwolf]

From someone on Reddit who lives Peru and got his hands on a Ryzen 5 1600 early:

 

[oxidized]

From someone on Reddit who lives Peru and got his hands on a Ryzen 5 1600 early:

So there's actually 4 kind of coolers, because 1700 Wraith Spire has RGB LED ring.


The 4th type of cooler is Wraith Spire but the guy called zeroshujin says it has no LED.
And The guy called Kuyi says it has no RGB (so it has a LED ring).

 

[msroadkill612]

What's the deal with 140W? 1800X's TDP or total system power usage? 8350 draws 125W or more yet OCs like champ, even tho it's nowhere near the performance of Zen arch. Anyway coolers for what used to be WOF is small portion of what's to "fix"/"improve", looks shiny regardless.

P.S. Gigabyte teasing the GA-AX370-Gaming-K7 page with special EK 4-pin pump & fan headers, think i'mma jump from ASUS to Gigabyte's bandwagon for my AM4 build.

*EDIT*

HSF 140W thermals ceiling! I still haven't fully recovered from yesterday, the job i have is quite nerve wrecking to say the least. lol Cheers.

Check first. I seem to recall asus being preferred.

 

[YautjaLord]

Check first. I seem to recall asus being preferred.

Whatchatalkinabout? Crosshair VI Hero? Not really, still looks f*ckin ugly. The one from Gigabyte and/or ASRock (Fatal1ty X370 Prof. Gaming) preferred over this ROG abomination. Dafuq?! lol

Anything that matches the HAF X's colors is preferred, either GA-AX370-Gaming-K7 or Fatal1ty X370 Prof. Gaming fits the bill nicely.

Anyway, yeah - HAF X + Gigabyte's or ASRock's X370/AM4 mobo + Wraith Max + all the rest = Who's put the entire Slayer band playing "Raining Blood" inside the rig? lol Cheers.

 

[djemergenc]

AMD really goes the extra mile, like including water coolers with some of their CPUs and GPUs and now these beautiful stock coolers for Ryzen.

 

[Blueberries]

I have no doubt that the Wraith varieties are vastly superior to the Intel bundled coolers, but it's also equally unlikely that I wouldn't replace the stock cooler for either better performance, lower noise, or both.

(I'm also very picky with my fans these days having had cheap ball-bearings go bad on me and make awful noises)