AMD Ryzen Discussion Thread.

GoldenX · Mar 31, 2017

The Ryzen 5 1400 and 1600 appeared suddenly on my country for sale: http://computacion.mercadolibre.com.ar/am4_OrderId_PRICE_ItemTypeID_N_OtherFilterID_MEJVEN
The dolar>peso exchange rate is aprox. U$S1>$15,50.

cdawall · Apr 1, 2017

Slizzo said:
Actually, I believe it's more an issue with two different things:

1. New chip on a brand new process.
2. Using Samsungs LPP process. It's not meant to be a super fast chip, it's meant to be an efficient one. Thus the reason it appears that Ryzen consumes less energy than Broadwell-E.

There are many other reasons why it uses less power than broadwell-e and it only does that if you start trying to match the pair clock for clock.

r9 · Apr 3, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=107&v=QBf2lvfKkxA
Another proof that reviewing Ryzen with Nvidia GPU is flawed.
GTX1060 on average is 25% faster than rx470.
In Division RX470 is %30 ahead of GTX 1060 on Ryzen CPU.

notb · Apr 3, 2017

r9 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=107&v=QBf2lvfKkxA
Another proof that reviewing Ryzen with Nvidia GPU is flawed.
GTX1060 on average is 25% faster than rx470.
In Division RX470 is %30 ahead of GTX 1060 on Ryzen CPU.

Well... people are usually reviewing CPU gaming performance using either a very popular or a top-performing GPU. At this point AMD makes neither of those...

But generally it's all true. NVIDIA does not support DX12 very well so the performance is fairly poor (just because of hardware usage - as shown in the link).
AMD latest stuff (Polaris, Ryzen, possibly Vega) are all built around DX12.

But then, honestly, DX12 is so awful coding-wise that's hardly a great handicap for AMD. We'll be seeing DX11 games for a long time.
Lets not forget DX12 has been around for almost 2 years and the adoption rate is just laughable. At this point all DX12-exclusive games are made by Microsoft. Most games released in 2017 don't even support DX12...

When DX10 and 11 were released they were both hits - in a year pretty much every AAA game was supporting the latest API.
DX10 is actually one of the reasons Windows Vista didn't end as a total disaster - many gamers updated from XP to have DX10.

Frag_Maniac · Apr 3, 2017

^Forget Dx12, Vulkan is where it's at. More devs need to get on board with it.

IRQ Conflict · Apr 3, 2017

Not just Vulcan, but Linux as well. I am soooo tired of M$.

Frag_Maniac · Apr 3, 2017

IRQ Conflict said:
Not just Vulcan, but Linux as well. I am soooo tired of M$.

I don't have much faith in Linux or SteamOS games. I was really hoping SteamOS games would give Windows/Dx games a run for their money, but they can't even perform as well as Dx11 games, let alone Dx12, and get slaughtered by Vulkan.

Vulkan is best option IMO.

IRQ Conflict · Apr 3, 2017

That's because Linux has never been the gamers OS. Dollars to doughnuts that if more people moved from Windows to Linux that situation would drastically improve.

Kanan · Apr 3, 2017

notb said:
DX10 is actually one of the reasons Windows Vista didn't end as a total disaster - many gamers updated from XP to have DX10.

Which one of the 2 games released in DX10 do you mean? :laugh:

Honestly, DX9 and DX11 were great so far, aside from the really old ones before them. We will see if DX12 will be great as well, but so far it's not looking bad. Vulcan is a great successor to OpenGL, I'm sure.

m0nt3 · Apr 4, 2017

Frag Maniac said:
I don't have much faith in Linux or SteamOS games. I was really hoping SteamOS games would give Windows/Dx games a run for their money, but they can't even perform as well as Dx11 games, let alone Dx12, and get slaughtered by Vulkan.

Vulkan is best option IMO.

Because wrapping direct 3D into OpenGL takes a lot of resources. Check out the Mad Max vulkan wrapper used by Feral (Mad Max has Vulkan only on linux) Vulkan will significantly close the gap to windows performance. It helps allviate the overhead presented by OpenGL.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/artic...chmarks-and-opengl-vs-vulkan-comparisons.9345
EDIT: updated with correct link.

EarthDog · Apr 4, 2017

Vulkan guys... AMD has nothing to do with Star Trek!

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vulkan

Mr.Scott · Apr 4, 2017

EarthDog said:
Vulkan guys... AMD has nothing to do with Star Trek!

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vulkan

Fascinating.

Rickkins · Apr 4, 2017

Hi guys...

So, I have my brand new Ryzen1700 cpu with the wraith cooler, GA-AB350-Gaming 3 motherboard and a couple 8gb ripsaws. Gonna put it all together in the morning...

m0nt3 · Apr 4, 2017

Rickkins said:
Hi guys...

So, I have my brand new Ryzen1700 cpu with the wraith cooler, GA-AB350-Gaming 3 motherboard and a couple 8gb ripsaws. Gonna put it all together in the morning...

You will enjoy it! Loving mine now that I have worked out some of the kinks.

Frag_Maniac · Apr 4, 2017

IRQ Conflict said:
That's because Linux has never been the gamers OS. Dollars to doughnuts that if more people moved from Windows to Linux that situation would drastically improve.

Yeah of course it's that the devs build the games for Windows because it's still the most used OS, but I think it was fool hearty of Valve to think Linux and SteamOS would ever be able to compete with Windows on user base. Especially since W10 could be gotten free like them.

Ungari · Apr 4, 2017

Frag Maniac said:
Yeah of course it's that the devs build the games for Windows because it's still the most used OS, but I think it was fool hearty of Valve to think Linux and SteamOS would ever be able to compete with Windows on user base. Especially since W10 could be gotten free like them.

I'm looking to move to Ubuntu because I don't want to go to Win10 and MS says they wont give updates to 8.1 even though they are suppose to give support for another year.
I am bummed about how this will effect my gaming.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Apr 4, 2017

Frag Maniac said:
Yeah of course it's that the devs build the games for Windows because it's still the most used OS, but I think it was fool hearty of Valve to think Linux and SteamOS would ever be able to compete with Windows on user base. Especially since W10 could be gotten free like them.

I think / hope they are playing the long game on Steam is but that rides on vulkan development imho

RealNeil · Apr 5, 2017

Super XP said:
People that upgrade now will most likely stick to their build for 5-7 years before they do another.

Really?
5-7 years on one system?

Never, ever that long for me. I change up in 1.5 years max. I built a pair of X99 systems a few months ago and I'm already sending one of them to one of my kids later on this week.
I'm far too interested in the new stuff coming out to stay locked in place. Now that I'm older and have a little disposable income I indulge myself.

Kanan · Apr 5, 2017

Ungari said:
I'm looking to move to Ubuntu because I don't want to go to Win10 and MS says they wont give updates to 8.1 even though they are suppose to give support for another year.
I am bummed about how this will effect my gaming.

Not at all, unless you want to play in DX12 - you can't. And until there are DX12 exclusive games you can always use the DX11 mode, and Vulcan will run fine with 8.1 as well. Linux meanwhile only has limited game opportunities, just a few games support OpenGL/Vulcan.

m0nt3 · Apr 5, 2017

Kanan said:
Not at all, unless you want to play in DX12 - you can't. And until there are DX12 exclusive games you can always use the DX11 mode, and Vulcan will run fine with 8.1 as well. Linux meanwhile only has limited game opportunities, just a few games support OpenGL/Vulcan.

I have 206 games in my library, over half (112) have linux support and that number is growing. Deus Ex Mankind Divided, HItman, Tomb Raider (and likely Rise of the Tomb Raider), Borderlands 2 and The Pre Sequal, Bioshock Infinite, Dirt Rally, Company of Heros 2, The Witcher 2 (Witcher 1 works great in Wine), the new Unreal tournament is working on Linux, Ark Survival Evolved,Dying Light, and Shadow of Mordor. If there was ever a time to try Linux gaming. Now is it.

True, there is a performance penalty for game being converted from Direct 3D to OpenGL, but they are still very playable (even on open source drivers) and that performance gap is going to drastically shrink as Vulkan get implimented. This as already happening, Feral Interactive has their vulkan beta for Mad Max already and bringing that to their other ports and future ports. I dropped Windows gaming shortly after Windows 10 came and I have not looked back once. Don't even have Windows installed on my PC and never will again. I am free.

PS: I can also play Doom 2016 at full windows performance including online play

trparky · Apr 5, 2017

According to some of the benchmarks noted here, my takeaway is that the Ryzen 5 1600x = Performance Sweetspot.

Frag_Maniac · Apr 5, 2017

I would like to know how many people on TPU have managed a stable 4GHz OC on a 1700, and what MB, RAM, and cooler you used, and how long it took to get there? Also did you use auto or manual CPU voltage, and if manual, what voltage did you settle on?

There's a few review sites making it sound easy even with CPU voltage set to auto, but I'd rather hear it from end users.

Johan45 · Apr 6, 2017

For stability it took 1.48v on my "better" 1700, CHVI and G.Skill 3600 CL 17 @ 2933 CL 15

GoldenX · Apr 6, 2017

Hope that improves over the coming months.
Seeing the (pre-release) performance of the quad core models, wouldn't a tri-core part have some charm against Pentium and Celeron Kaby Lakes?

Frag_Maniac · Apr 6, 2017

Johan45 said:
For stability it took 1.48v on my "better" 1700, CHVI and G.Skill 3600 CL 17 @ 2933 CL 15

What MB, and are you running the latest BIOS version?

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AMD Ryzen Discussion Thread.

GoldenX

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

r9

notb

Frag_Maniac

IRQ Conflict

Frag_Maniac

IRQ Conflict

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

m0nt3

EarthDog

Mr.Scott

Rickkins

m0nt3

Frag_Maniac

Ungari

TheoneandonlyMrK

RealNeil

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

m0nt3

trparky

Frag_Maniac

Johan45

GoldenX

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