Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ Limited Edition 8 GB

[madness777]

Ok guys, I see a lot of Power Consumption comments here. Well it seems you forgot that the RX4xx series had a serious TDP problem with the single 6-pin and PCI-E slot power balance.
I can still hear the people losing their mind when they saw the PCI-E power go over the limit of 75W. Then we saw some new BIOS releases for the RX4xx.
Now you see, you're looking at the ACTUAL power consumption that the chip should have had when the RX4xx series were released. They fixed the mistakes they made previously.
I am disappointed to see the price increase however, I was really hoping they would keep the price and stay relevant.

 

[tvamos]

Well, not much more power hungry compared to Nitro+480

 

[rtwjunkie]

Slightly useless rebrand, BUT...for someone looking to upgrade his secondary rig, like me, and who didn't get a 480, it might be worth it to get the 580, due to consistently getting about 6 FPS more on average than the 480.

 

[notb]

It's funny how people obsess over power consumption all of a sudden. I only see that as a problem if that affects actual heat and overall noise (which is usually connected with heat). Considering this card is one of the quietest cards, who really cares? And it overclocks kinda decent. I mean, 1480MHz is quite nice clock for Polaris. And now someone will throw an miniATX or ITX build in my face. How many people seriously use those compared to normal id or high towers? They are tiny minority no one cares about.

Sure, let's forget about ITX builds (and AIO). But if I open some Ryzen-related threads, I think I should be able to find your posts praising Ryzen's 95W TDP compared to Intel HEDT 140W. Wanna bet?

And how many people use something as silly and outdated as a desktop PC, when you can get a notebook with mobile 1060 that's almost as fast as the desktop one? And keep in mind AMD makes some very efficient Radeon Pro GPUs for Apple MacBooks. Why do they even bother with this RX rebrand? Or is Radeon Pro designed by Apple and exclusive?

 

[Manu_PT]

It's funny how people obsess over power consumption all of a sudden. I only see that as a problem if that affects actual heat and overall noise (which is usually connected with heat). Considering this card is one of the quietest cards, who really cares? And it overclocks kinda decent. I mean, 1480MHz is quite nice clock for Polaris. And now someone will throw an miniATX or ITX build in my face. How many people seriously use those compared to normal id or high towers? They are tiny minority no one cares about.

I do use matx and matx users are not a minority at all. Still the temps on matx are not much worse than atx depending on the case. Power consumprion is always an important factor. Maybe not where you live, but electricity is expensive in some eu countries. I always want the best power consumption product for the same price/perfomance. 180w in 2017 for a 1080p card is too much

 

[Manu_PT]

Sure, let's forget about ITX builds (and AIO). But if I open some Ryzen-related threads, I think I should be able to find your posts praising Ryzen's 95W TDP compared to Intel HEDT 140W. Wanna bet?

And how many people use something as silly and outdated as a desktop PC, when you can get a notebook with mobile 1060 that's almost as fast as the desktop one? And keep in mind AMD makes some very efficient Radeon Pro GPUs for Apple MacBooks. Why do they even bother with this RX rebrand? Or is Radeon Pro designed by Apple and exclusive?

He will always defend everything amd related

 

[Nihilus]

I do use matx and matx users are not a minority at all. Still the temps on matx are not much worse than atx depending on the case. Power consumprion is always an important factor. Maybe not where you live, but electricity is expensive in some eu countries. I always want the best power consumption product for the same price/perfomance. 180w in 2017 for a 1080p card is too much

Yep, mATX and ITX builder as well. I wouldn't consider non-crossfire users as the minority, so what is the point of getting an ATX board?? Electricity is plenty expensive here as well in Japan. Power consumption does not matter in Rejzor's world since his parents pay the utilities.

 

[Nima]

What a disappointing GPU. worse performance/watt than +2 year old Maxwell cards and worse performance/dollar compare to 1060 the 1 year old GPU from competition and almost no overclocking headroom. I think this card is only aimed at die hard AMD fanboys.

 

[rtwjunkie]

And how many people use something as silly and outdated as a desktop PC

You're in the wrong forum for that statement, bud. Anyone that wants a powerful, cool system with expandability and the ability to play games as they were designed will build and use "outdated" desktops.

Additionally there are professional environments that need only what a desktop can provide.

 

[efikkan]

It's a refresh, that's fine. But the efficiency is still not improving.

 

[Dimi]

The problem is that in my case, power consumption is beginning to weigh in heavily on the purchase of gpu's. 2 years ago, monthly electricity bill was 152 euro. Jumped up to 187 last year and at the moment it is already at 202 per month WITH a usage decrease of around 5% over the past 2 years. 40.6% increase in electricity cost. They are already talking about rising prices even more next year.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Consumes 100W more to achieve 5% more perf than a 1060. Guess which chip you wont see in a laptop... again.
Not to mention that it's trading blows with an equally priced custom 1060. And those cards were out for a while.

Wanted to say I'm disappointed, but my expectations were extremely low to begin with. And boy were those expectations met.

Nope, it's being overvolted. Undervolt and run at laptop freqs and you're gonna shave off more than 50% (probably 75%).

 

[Yukikaze]

Performance wise, it is exactly what was promised. The power consumption, however, is nuts. I actually think my R9 Fury Nitro has a better power/performance ratio at this point, and that is saying something.

 

[GhostRyder]

I don't think its as bad as some people are saying, but its definitely far from anything spectacular. Honestly, I had hoped more of an improvement on the clocking potential but I guess thats a pipe dream for now.

Well either way I guess its up to Vega to do something...

 

[ShurikN]

Nope, it's being overvolted. Undervolt and run at laptop freqs and you're gonna shave off more than 50% (probably 75%).

Mhm, the market is brimming currently with those undervolted 480s and 470s.

 

[efikkan]

The TDP of 185W is really bad news.

But at least it should put to rest the myth of 80W RX 480s…

 

[Countryside]

Driver 16.3.3 a little bit outdated won't you say.

 

[Captain_Tom]

For the love of God when will you guys stop using BF3 for overclocking?!

At least upgrade to BF1, DE:MD, or he'll even Metro Last Light is newer.



Otherwise great review. I will be interested to see if someone attempts to make an efficient AIB card, but most likely everyone will just chase higher clocks with tons of power connectors....

 

[intelzen]

why there is no CONS like: "it is a rx480" or "we tested this card a year ago".

 

[HD64G]

Not to mention the worse price to performance and worse overclocking.

Worse overclocking just because @W1zzard didn't use Trixx or Afterburner you mean...

From a 1st glimpse it seems like a good mid-range GPU (*and it is a good mid-range GPU).
BUT....
1) Extremely high power consumption compared to the competition (*GTX1060) or even its predecessor (RX480)
2) Its 5% average ahead of GTX1060 reference, but that means that it will be equal with the aftermarket GTX1060s.
3) In addition to comment 2), if we add the fact that NVidia will be launching a refreshed line of GTX1060s with faster memory, then......
the results that come from thoughts 1) , 2) , 3) aren't very encouraging for AMD.

1) This specific one is a custom OC and overvoltage product. Even 1080 when oced and overvoltaged consumes 80-100W more...
2) For same money as before for stock vs stock, now 580 is equal to 1060 6GB, being cheaper usually...
3) Remains to be seen how much gain will 1060 with 1Gb faste memory will gain...

What a useless rebrand, just grab an aftermarket RX480 and OC the hell out of it. What was AMD thinking? PowerConsumption actually went up, blegh!
Stock 580 isn't consuming more than stock 480, you are looking on a custom oced model here....

If they had drop the price to $220 Max, it would had been something, also push the naming scheme one notch down and sold it as RX570. It just makes absolutely no sense.

Ok guys, I see a lot of Power Consumption comments here. Well it seems you forgot that the RX4xx series had a serious TDP problem with the single 6-pin and PCI-E slot power balance.
I can still hear the people losing their mind when they saw the PCI-E power go over the limit of 75W. Then we saw some new BIOS releases for the RX4xx.
Now you see, you're looking at the ACTUAL power consumption that the chip should have had when the RX4xx series were released. They fixed the mistakes they made previously.
I am disappointed to see the price increase however, I was really hoping they would keep the price and stay relevant.

$230 for stock 580 is the official price with 4% more FPS average. A refresh with benefits for customes and not any con imho.

Performance wise, it is exactly what was promised. The power consumption, however, is nuts. I actually think my R9 Fury Nitro has a better power/performance ratio at this point, and that is saying something.

Overvoltage your Fury Nitro and report back with your power consuption numbers. I cannot get why most overlook that this model is the higher clocked one. Wait for the stock model or the ones with moderate oc to see the normal power consumption numbers.

 

[xkm1948]

Wow, one negative thing! Let us ALL ATTACK that single point over and over and over and over. Internet mob mentality.


Meanwhile clearly the author of review gave it a 9.2/10 along with this:

At the same time this card delivers some good gain over DX12/Vulkan.

@W1zzard, is it possible for you to separate DX11/OpenGL gaming performance summary from DX12/Vulkan gaming performance summary?

 

[yotano211]

Sure, let's forget about ITX builds (and AIO). But if I open some Ryzen-related threads, I think I should be able to find your posts praising Ryzen's 95W TDP compared to Intel HEDT 140W. Wanna bet?

And how many people use something as silly and outdated as a desktop PC, when you can get a notebook with mobile 1060 that's almost as fast as the desktop one? And keep in mind AMD makes some very efficient Radeon Pro GPUs for Apple MacBooks. Why do they even bother with this RX rebrand? Or is Radeon Pro designed by Apple and exclusive?

I would use a silly/outdated machine like those desktop PCs and I have run laptop only for the past 9 years. My life style says that I can only use a laptop since I am not at home lots of times. If I was home more often, I would built myself a nice fancy "outdated desktop PC".

These comments dont belong here, if you want desktop vs laptop battles take it somewhere else. There will always be a need for a laptop for desktop its up to the buyer and their own life style.

 

[xkm1948]

I am seriously disgusted by some of the posts here. Rebrand is boring, We don't like rebrands. Yet when Intel/Nvidia does rebrands I don't see such outcry. Such double standards and selective blindness.

Read the review with your own god damn judgements. Read the DX12/Vulkan portion separately from DX11 portion and it will see some good gains.

 

[yotano211]

I was expecting for the power draw to come down somewhat and maybe underclock it so that it can fit in a laptop. Nvdia is the only player at the mid-top level GPUs for laptops.

 

[Nokiron]

I am seriously disgusted by some of the posts here. Rebrand is boring, We don't like rebrands. Yet when Intel/Nvidia does rebrands I don't see such outcry. Such double standards and selective blindness.

Really now? Show me one Nvidia-rebrand post where the outcry is missing.

And AFAIK, Intel har no rebrands through their models. A die-shrink is a heck of alot more then a simple rebrand.