Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ Limited Edition 8 GB

[rtwjunkie]

I am seriously disgusted by some of the posts here. Rebrand is boring, We don't like rebrands. Yet when Intel/Nvidia does rebrands I don't see such outcry. Such double standards and selective blindness.

Read the review with your own god damn judgements. Read the DX12/Vulkan portion separately from DX11 portion and it will see some good gains.

Getting angry over people's opinions? Fanboy much? There was plenty of that anti-rebrand hate last time NVIDIA did it. I don't really care who does it. Your reaction though, is over the top and way too personally reflective of being butt-hurt.

That being said, people are forgettting that if you want to compare the REAL power consumption increase, compare this Nitro+ to the top model Nitro+ model RX 480. That is the real comparison.

 

[birdie]

Score 9.2? Editor's choice?

Really? For almost zero improvements? For the same power inefficiency? For the same bugs, like, extreme dual monitor idle power consumption? The most upsetting rebrand in the history of GPUs.

I'm shaking my head in disbelief.

 

[bug]

From a 1st glimpse it seems like a good mid-range GPU (*and it is a good mid-range GPU).
BUT....
1) Extremely high power consumption compared to the competition (*GTX1060) or even its predecessor (RX480)
2) Its 5% average ahead of GTX1060 reference, but that means that it will be equal with the aftermarket GTX1060s.
3) In addition to comment 2), if we add the fact that NVidia will be launching a refreshed line of GTX1060s with faster memory, then......
the results that come from thoughts 1) , 2) , 3) aren't very encouraging for AMD.

It burns through the same power as a 1080, but without outputting as many FPS. If that's not disappointing, nothing is.

 

[Yukikaze]

Overvoltage your Fury Nitro and report back with your power consuption numbers. I cannot get why most overlook that this model is the higher clocked one. Wait for the stock model or the ones with moderate oc to see the normal power consumption numbers.

I was commenting on the specific model, not every RX580 in the world. And why would I overvolt my Fury? It beats this Nitro 580 at stock volts, which is the point I was making there. This specific card has a horrible power consumption, and it is very hard to argue otherwise.

 

[ShurikN]

AMD should have released this card as a 570 (move the entire Polaris lineup one step down), and give the consumers a 580 with 40CU like the one in Xbox Scorpio.

 

[birdie]

AMD should have released this card as a 570 (move the entire Polaris lineup one step down), and give the consumers a 580 with 40CU like the one in Xbox Scorpio.

475 and 485 would have filled the bill better. At least when NVIDIA does rebrands like 6xx to 7xx we get some very tangible benefits:

The new card delivers an impressive 20% performance improvement over the GTX 660 but is also priced $50 higher

480 to 580? The difference is not really visible to the naked eye.

 

[DarkOCean]

OMG these are so bad. Just look at that power consumption and perf/watt. ~gtx 1060 performance with ~gtx 1080 ti power consumption
wtf?! People have been undervolting polaris to save some power but noo, Amd went ahead and overvolted and overclocked these even further, and calling it a new product at the same prices as a year ago. What could go wrong? LOL that perf/watt would be bad even for 28m

 

[HD64G]

I was commenting on the specific model, not every RX580 in the world. And why would I overvolt my Fury? It beats this Nitro 580 at stock volts, which is the point I was making there. This specific card has a horrible power consumption, and it is very hard to argue otherwise.

But it still consumes less than yours me thinks. And loses by less than 10% me thinks eh? And it's much cheaper also?

 

[medi01]

Regarding multi monitor power consumption, as seen on anand, with two monitors running at the same resolution it consumes way less power, than 480.
There is no difference when monitors have different resolutions.

(TPU tests with different)

 

[HD64G]

I was expecting for the power draw to come down somewhat and maybe underclock it so that it can fit in a laptop. Nvdia is the only player at the mid-top level GPUs for laptops.

This same chip powers the PS4 pro. It just runs at 800MHz where it excels at efficiency. So, this could be done for mobiles too with 900-1000 clocks and very low power comsumption.

 

[bug]

This same chip powers the PS4 pro. It just runs at 800MHz where it excels at efficiency. So, this could be done for mobiles too with 900-1000 clocks and very low power comsumption.

Yes. And under the right circumstances, pigs could fly.

 

[medi01]

I did check out the graph; unfortunately I saw no improvements compared to the RX480 although apparently it was supposed to be one of the points of the improved process.

Afair undervolted 580 consumes less than undervolted 480, but can't find the source any more... =/
(they significantly reduced blueray/video power consumption, as well as multi mon, when both monitors are at the same resolution)

OMG these are so bad at power consumption

FTFY
18% perf difference between these and 980Ti (beating it in Doom), that's hardly bad.

AMD should have released this card as a 570 (move the entire Polaris lineup one step down), and give the consumers a 580 with 40CU like the one in Xbox Scorpio.

Puzzling why they didn't.
570 looks better, although +50w isn't that great either, but it does beat 3Gb 1060.

 

[Yukikaze]

But it still consumes less than yours me thinks. And loses by less than 10% me thinks eh? And it's much cheaper also?

The R9 Fury consumes about the same and is indeed a bit more powerful. As for the price, the Fury is no longer on sale, as stocks finally ran out. It was sold for 220-240$ after rebate for the past few months, and I doubt the RX580 Nitro will be this cheap for a long time.

But that isn't really relevant to the point I was making, either. The point is that a 14nm card that manages to consume about as much power as a last gen 28nm card based off an absolutely massive chip is just....weird. The same point can be made in relation to a GTX980Ti, not just the R9 Fury. I just own a Fury, so I referenced that.

Don't get me wrong, the RX580 isn't bad, just as the RX480 is not bad. It has its niche and price range where it fits pretty well, and DX12 performance is good. I just find the power consumption ridiculous, especially for the performance. Whether that matters to people is up to them.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

475 and 485 would have filled the bill better. At least when NVIDIA does rebrands like 6xx to 7xx we get some very tangible benefits:

Agreed re: 475 and 485. But Nvidia is far from blameless in the rebrand arena. The 8800GT got transformed into 5 different chips, eventually becoming the GTS 250 (albeit with a die shrink along the way)

 

[HD64G]

Yes. And under the right circumstances, pigs could fly.

Nice joke there

 

[Meraj]

AC Syndicate 86 frame? everything maxed ?
Thanks for review!

 

[dat_boi]

AMD is making it harder and harder for their shill army to sell their products. Fanatizing consumers is probably more profitable than making a good products, and they don't even have to pay off the reviewers coz they're in the same boat.

 

[newtekie1]

FTFY
18% perf difference between these and 980Ti (beating it in Doom), that's hardly bad.

When did it beat the 980Ti in Doom? The tests here don't show the RX 580 beating Doom, or even coming close.

 

[Solid State Brain]

Regarding multi monitor power consumption, as seen on anand, with two monitors running at the same resolution it consumes way less power, than 480.
There is no difference when monitors have different resolutions.

(TPU tests with different)

I think there are a lot of people who use as secondary monitor one with a lower resolution than the primary one, perhaps the model they were previously using as a primary.

 

[illli]

I'm always rooting for the underdog, but this rebrand AMD card is completely underwhelming

 

[Ruru]

Better than I excepted, what AMD said about improvements over RX400 series wasn't that typical PR-BS. Some people care about power consumption, but for anyone like me who doesn't give a littlest crap about it, this looks good.

Also packing replacement fan(s) should be something other AIB's should also do.

 

[Shatun_Bear]

The usual suspects going OTT with their criticism of this AMD product.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that the Polaris arch was designed as a mobile part first and foremost, where it excels at lower frequencies from 800-1000 Mhz. As soon as you push the frequencies way above that, efficiency nose-dives. Operating at 1440Mhz is way past the optimum for Polaris, hence the comparatively large power consumption.

Still, that doesn't change the fact that these are the fastest cards in their price bracket if you predominantly play new games. They are also decisively faster than anything in the same price bracket in DX12/Vulkan, which is a more important point than is appreciated by many.

Also, Vega is coming in a couple of months, let's not act like these are all AMD have got this year. Vega is going to encompass more than just the top-end Fury/Fury X replacements with Vega 11.

 

[EarthDog]

The usual suspects going OTT with their criticism of this AMD product.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that the Polaris arch was designed as a mobile part first and foremost, where it excels at lower frequencies from 800-1000 Mhz. As soon as you push the frequencies way above that, efficiency nose-dives. Operating at 1440Mhz is way past the optimum for Polaris, hence the comparatively large power consumption.

Still, that doesn't change the fact that these are the fastest cards in their price bracket if you predominantly play new games. They are also decisively faster than anything in the same price bracket in DX12/Vulkan, which is a more important point than is appreciated by many.

Also, Vega is coming in a couple of months, let's not act like these are all AMD have got this year. Vega is going to encompass more than just the top-end Fury/Fury X replacements with Vega 11.

With you all the way outside of the BOLD part... only time will tell there, and its bad news looking at history (Mantle).

Getting angry over people's opinions? Fanboy much? There was plenty of that anti-rebrand hate last time NVIDIA did it. I don't really care who does it. Your reaction though, is over the top and way too personally reflective of being butt-hurt.

That being said, people are forgettting that if you want to compare the REAL power consumption increase, compare this Nitro+ to the top model Nitro+ model RX 480. That is the real comparison.

+1 @rtwjunkie

The key here... 'the last time'. Which was what... the 770 or something 3 generations ago? AMD does this religously is the problem. Its not different than an Intel tick-tock, except, without the IPC increase and nothing but a clockspeed increase.

 

[oxidized]

I'm not so sure anymore, at these prices i could get a 1060 6GB overclock the sh** out of it (since it can) and eat both the 480 and the 580 alive.

 

[lilunxm12]

The problem is that in my case, power consumption is beginning to weigh in heavily on the purchase of gpu's. 2 years ago, monthly electricity bill was 152 euro. Jumped up to 187 last year and at the moment it is already at 202 per month WITH a usage decrease of around 5% over the past 2 years. 40.6% increase in electricity cost. They are already talking about rising prices even more next year.

Unless you're using your card 24x7 at relatively high load, I doubt it matters. There're probably other factors increasing your power bill more significantly.