NVIDIA Readies the GeForce GT 1030 to Compete with Radeon RX 550

[john_]

I think the most recent chip falling into that description would be GT730 and yes - you can still buy these cards easily. But they are becoming slightly old by now.
Just the simplest example: GT730 supports a up to 3840x2160, so it could struggle with modern multi-monitor setup. GTX1050 supports 4 times as much.

Also the efficiency improved a lot. You can find a passively cooled GT730, but it could get to high temperatures under load.
Based on what other Pascal cards can do, the GT1030 could be passively cooled by default (and really cool with that ). This is important.
Basically, we're getting back to a point where a "productivity" card can look like it used to 20 years ago:

It's obviously a single-slot card and the heatsink is covering memory (most cards didn't have that).

By comparison, this is a passively cooled GT730:

I remember only one single-slot passive card from GT7xx era - Zotac GT 710. AFAIK it needed a decent air circulation.

You talk about the GT 730 as if it was ONE card. In fact you have 3 TOTALLY DIFFERENT models under the same name. There is no comparison for example between a GT 730 with 12GB/sec memory bandwidth and one with 40GB/sec memory bandwidth.

radeon 520, radeon 530

Rebrands. For the 520 it says 1st Gen GPU, so possibly a 7730, and for 530 it says 3rd Gen, so possibly a 240/250 rebrand.

 

[XiGMAKiD]

Green PCB, kinda like it. Reminds me of OEM and old PC parts

 

[Ruru]

The D-SUB connector is just a bad joke.

 

[mac007]

how will it compete against GTX 750Ti??will this be more powerful?

 

[Frick]

You talk about the GT 730 as if it was ONE card. In fact you have 3 TOTALLY DIFFERENT models under the same name. There is no comparison for example between a GT 730 with 12GB/sec memory bandwidth and one with 40GB/sec memory bandwidth.

Yup, and the GDDR5 cards were/are surprisingly fast.

 

[jabbadap]

how will it compete against GTX 750Ti??will this be more powerful?

If it uses full 512 shader gp108, it should be with similar or a bit higher performance to gtx750ti(gtx750ti fp32: 2*640*1.3GHz=1664GFLops->gt 1030(if full gp108) needed equal core clock: 1664GFLops/(2*512)=1.625GHz). But then again I would think that full gp108 will be in gt1040 and gt1030 is not full chip.

One interesting question is there nvenc on gp108, gm108 lacked nvenc hw. Thus video encoding was not possible on it.

 

[medi01]

Gnome deathmatch.

 

[jabbadap]

I think the most recent chip falling into that description would be GT730 and yes - you can still buy these cards easily. But they are becoming slightly old by now.
Just the simplest example: GT730 supports a up to 3840x2160, so it could struggle with modern multi-monitor setup. GTX1050 supports 4 times as much.

Also the efficiency improved a lot. You can find a passively cooled GT730, but it could get to high temperatures under load.
Based on what other Pascal cards can do, the GT1030 could be passively cooled by default (and really cool with that ). This is important.
Basically, we're getting back to a point where a "productivity" card can look like it used to 20 years ago:

It's obviously a single-slot card and the heatsink is covering memory (most cards didn't have that).

By comparison, this is a passively cooled GT730:

I remember only one single-slot passive card from GT7xx era - Zotac GT 710. AFAIK it needed a decent air circulation.

Well that gt730 is short pcie8 slot card, might not have enough area to slap big enough single slot heatsink on it. Speaking of single slot low profile cards there's one gtx1050ti from asian company called ASL(not to be mix up with ALS disease). It's active though and has horrible choice of video outputs(hdmi2.0 and DVI-D)...

Spoiler: ASL gtx 1050 ti low profile single slot

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

Ehh I had a passively cooled 8500GT, drew about 30 watts and it struggled to keep cool (easily 80 degrees and throttling if not well ventilated). You need a decent passive cooler even at those power levels.

It is nice to see that these lower end cards are actually becoming relevant, unlike the fermi and kepler ones.

For those thinking of other even more cut cards, I really doubt they will make any... $79 is already really low down the price bracket and honestly anyone with a brain will shave 20 bucks off their budget elsewhere to get a better card if they have ~50-60 to spend on a GPU. (Or just save up for like one month lul)

The only place I would expect to see those are in OEM PCs.

 

[notb]

Ehh I had a passively cooled 8500GT, drew about 30 watts and it struggled to keep cool (easily 80 degrees and throttling if not well ventilated). You need a decent passive cooler even at those power levels.

8500GT is really hard to compare to modern cards. Everything has changed.
GPUs are way more efficient now (and so are other PC parts). If a 30W card is cooled by a fan, it means it has a poor, small heatsink - simply because fans are way cheaper.

It is nice to see that these lower end cards are actually becoming relevant, unlike the fermi and kepler ones.

Relevant in what?
I think Fermi and Kepler cards were very relevant as small, low-power solutions. And they offered a decent boost compared to an average IGP of the period.
If AMD really wants to make so many GPU variants below the RX460/560, they'll be hardly more useful than Intel's IGP and very likely slower than next AMD APU...

For those thinking of other even more cut cards, I really doubt they will make any... $79 is already really low down the price bracket and honestly anyone with a brain will shave 20 bucks off their budget elsewhere to get a better card if they have ~50-60 to spend on a GPU. (Or just save up for like one month lul)

Sorry, but the "save up for like one month" looks like you're talking about allowance. :d
People have particular budget to spend on a PC - it's not about saving up. And they might not be interested in a better card, anyway.

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

8500GT is really hard to compare to modern cards. Everything has changed.
GPUs are way more efficient now (and so are other PC parts). If a 30W card is cooled by a fan, it means it has a poor, small heatsink - simply because fans are way cheaper.

Sorry, have I been missing something, do watts have deflation or something? AFAIK 30 watts in 2008 is still 30 watts now...

Relevant in what?
I think Fermi and Kepler cards were very relevant as small, low-power solutions. And they offered a decent boost compared to an average IGP of the period.

Ok, the fermi/kepler ones were relevant in terms of they gave a few extra display outs.. Not even... Most of the cards weren't even capable of more than 2 monitors. And games? Really? It's like the graphics equivalent of sending a rocket half way to the moon...

If AMD really wants to make so many GPU variants below the RX460/560, they'll be hardly more useful than Intel's IGP and very likely slower than next AMD APU...

I think this was pretty much the point that I was getting at, and it is (and was) the same for intel's side.

Sorry, but the "save up for like one month" looks like you're talking about allowance. :d

The market for PCs bought by young/mid teens is massive... And I know plenty of friends who work full time who get only x amount of expendable income a month and to buy a high end rig they have to save up for a few paychecks...

People have particular budget to spend on a PC - it's not about saving up. And they might not be interested in a better card, anyway.

Ehh there are price brackets where I would say it is simply not worth buying a PC... Just like for me right now it would straight up not be worth upgrading my GPU on a 150-200GBP budget.

 

[Basard]

Hmm I'm not quite sure what he mean, but last new old beetle were made in Mexico 2003. Brazilian Beetle "Fusca" manufacturing ended in 1996.

Thats what I meant. Referring to the old green PCB with newer hardware on it.

 

[StefanM]

As you might have already noticed NVFlash 5.370.0 added support for GT 1030 , now the "other software" is ready...

Sneak peek: