AMD Backpedals on Quake Champions Promo Link with Radeon 17.4.4 Drivers

[hyp36rmax]

You seem intentionally fired up over this.

If you let any company get away with something, they will push the limit further and further. First it's harmless links, next thing you know, you end up with telemetry baked into your drivers ALA nvidia. It's important to let them know how unacceptable these things are before they get out of hand, especially an underdog like AMD that depends on being better then nvidia just to survive.

Also, LOL you still use individual installers? Ninite has been a thing for years.

That's pretty deep... Sounds malicious... It's more like these companies had good intentions despite not thinking it through all the way. In the case of AMD, execution was mishandled. At the very least they were reactive.

 

[bug]

People can be so pathetic... ooh an icon, run for your lives!

I don't think the problem is the icon, but including something not driver related in a driver installation. And not providing the option of installing that something.

Fwiw, I absolutely hate it when at the end of an installer my desktop receives icons I didn't specifically request. If there are others like me, I can understand them hating this little icon.

 

[Solidstate89]

Go on, keep on pushing the "you're just an AMD fanboy" narrative. It ain't gonna work because I'm no fanboy of anything. But a bloody shortcut? How often do you forget to uncheck "Create shortcut on desktop" in installers. Better start barking at all those companies pre-checking that option in installers! Dem spywarez!!!!!!!

Oh, it's a shortcut to AMD's driver management software now? No, it wasn't. So good job with that false equivalence right there.

 

[newtekie1]

I don't think the problem is the icon, but including something not driver related in a driver installation. And not providing the option of installing that something.

Fwiw, I absolutely hate it when at the end of an installer my desktop receives icons I didn't specifically request. If there are others like me, I can understand them hating this little icon.

Agreed. I still remember how annoying it was that nVidia's driver always created the icon for 3D Vision Photo Viewer every time you installed the drivers, with no option to not put the icon on your desktop other than not installing 3D Vision at all. Kind of annoying, but at least that was their own software, and they stopped doing it with recent drivers.

 

[Xzibit]

That's pretty deep... Sounds malicious... It's more like these companies had good intentions despite not thinking it through all the way. In the case of AMD, execution was mishandled. At the very least they were reactive.

Consumer push back is a good thing

When a company adopts a No.Fks.Given (or however you want to call it) policy, the consumers are just along for the ride until they wi$e up.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

Why don't they just advertise during the driver installation like every other software on the planet does. No one will get made if they get the "It will be a few minutes to install these new drivers. Doesn't Quake Champions look awesome by the way. We will just leave this video and this link here while we finish the install."

 

[newtekie1]

Why don't they just advertise during the driver installation like every other software on the planet does. No one will get made if they get the "It will be a few minutes to install these new drivers. Doesn't Quake Champions look awesome by the way. We will just leave this video and this link here while we finish the install."

AFAIK, they already do this. I'm guessing they are looking for other ways to increase revenue beyond just ads during the installer.

 

[hyp36rmax]

Consumer push back is a good thing

When a company adopts a No.Fks.Given (or however you want to call it) policy, the consumers are just along for the ride until they wi$e up.

I agree wholeheartedly about consumer awareness and voicing feedback. That post just sounded so malicious making it sound like these companies were doing this to screw the customer on purpose. There should be a gut check within the company before moving forward with these campaigns. Otherwise consumers will do that job and we get where we are today.

 

[r.h.p]

What's the big deal , for me not much

 

[Divide Overflow]

Some people seem to suffer "outrage" over fairly trivial things these days...
Still, glad to hear AMD listened and responded quickly.

 

[RejZoR]

Oh, it's a shortcut to AMD's driver management software now? No, it wasn't. So good job with that false equivalence right there.

Stop saying things I NEVER said...

 

[Solidstate89]

Stop saying things I NEVER said...

You absolutely said this:

But a bloody shortcut? How often do you forget to uncheck "Create shortcut on desktop" in installers. Better start barking at all those companies pre-checking that option in installers!

You were comparing a shortcut to a piece of software you intentionally were installing to an advertising shortcut that a piece of driver software placed on your desktop without your permission. As if the two are even remotely comparable. There's nothing about your comment I took out of context.

 

[kruk]

When Nvidia does it, "BURN THE WITCHES!!!!!!!!111"
When AMD does it, "They mean good"

Such hypocrisy.

Nobody has ever said the icon was a good decision - you just pulled that out from where the sun never shines.

Keep defending the indefensible because it's your favorite company. It's a real good look.

Did I miss the posts on this forum where you bash nVidia's telemetry? If you didn't do that, GTFO of this thread.

 

[RejZoR]

You absolutely said this:



You were comparing a shortcut to a piece of software you intentionally were installing to an advertising shortcut that a piece of driver software placed on your desktop without your permission. As if the two are even remotely comparable. There's nothing about your comment I took out of context.

Except the entire thing... And frankly I don't give a damn, I have better things to do.

 

[Franzen4Real]

I don't agree with the practice, but I don't think it deserves anything close to a "major outcry" since it only a link and not an installer.

There's no doubt that they should have a check box to opt in, but why not also give an incentive for users to do so? Perhaps they could work with Bethesda to make an exclusive in-game cosmetic item (red themed armor, or cross-game appearance stuff ala Blizzard like a vault boy head helmet). When you choose to opt in and then click on the link on your desktop, it would also give a random onetime DLC code.

This way, Bethesda gets extra game advertising, AMD gets their telemetry, the user gets a "thank you for opting in and giving us information" exclusive game item, and the world can find something different but equally trivial to majorly outcry about.

 

[Solidstate89]

Nobody has ever said the icon was a good decision - you just pulled that out from where the sun never shines.



Did I miss the posts on this forum where you bash nVidia's telemetry? If you didn't do that, GTFO of this thread.

Please find any post where I defended the inclusion of telemetry and said it was a good thing. The closest you'll find is a post I made that incorrectly stated that the telemetry only came with GFE, which is apparently incorrect now.

Except the entire thing... And frankly I don't give a damn, I have better things to do.

Sure buddy. Whatever you say.

 

[evernessince]

When Nvidia does it, "BURN THE WITCHES!!!!!!!!111"
When AMD does it, "They mean good"

Such hypocrisy.

Yes, because Nvidia's Telemetry service is so comparable to a desktop shortcut /s

 

[erocker]

I'm pretty sure these things used to be included with drivers all the time. The "outrage" that is being reported on (over a link? really?) is nothing more than children on the internet whining. I almost find it insulting to people that have to read this. Not TPU's fault as the "media" in general seems to find whiny ramblings of internet children relevant in some way.

 

[Nkd]

Jesus! WTF? Turn the world upside down for an icon you can delete in 1 second. Good lord! We have turned in to cry babies over this privacy shit. There is no tracking involved and no advertising popups. Just a shortcut to promote beta signup. Jeez people delete it and waste a second on it instead of hours complaining.

 

[acperience7]

Wow. I didn't plan on downloading this driver (last one is still working great for me), so I didn't really pay much attention until I saw how many people were in replying in this thread. If I'm not mistaken (and I may, because it's been years), didn't ATi/AMD do this before generations ago? Just a link, no actual software/games installed with it. Which is what they did this time too.

 

[warrior420]

I've been in the Beta for a few weeks, and i didn't even notice the icon...

 

[silentbogo]

Isn't it a closed beta? I mean I don't remember nvidia ever handing out beta keys..

Exactly. Just got my key, and the game is all covered with "NDA. No streaming. No screenshots. No other kinky sh#t.". I mean, everything, from character screen to loading screens and menus.
Not sure how they expect 80,000 people with AMD invites to comply....

 

[silentbogo]

I'm pretty sure these things used to be included with drivers all the time. The "outrage" that is being reported on (over a link? really?) is nothing more than children on the internet whining. I almost find it insulting to people that have to read this. Not TPU's fault as the "media" in general seems to find whiny ramblings of internet children relevant in some way.

Like constantly unchecking NVidia 3DVision driver during installation

 

[1c3d0g]

Some people seem to suffer "outrage" over fairly trivial things these days...
Still, glad to hear AMD listened and responded quickly.

First world problems... Nevertheless, good that they listened to their customers feedback.

 

[eidairaman1]

It was just an advert to me, its akin to the adverts catalyst and crimson drivers have during install, just delete the icon and move on.