• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Entire AMD Vega Lineup Reportedly Leaked - Available on June 5th?

Raevenlord

News Editor
Joined
Aug 12, 2016
Messages
3,755 (1.24/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name The Ryzening
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard MSI X570 MAG TOMAHAWK
Cooling Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO
Memory 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3733 (4x 8 GB)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 3070 Ti
Storage Boot: Transcend MTE220S 2TB, Kintson A2000 1TB, Seagate Firewolf Pro 14 TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270UP (1440p 144 Hz IPS)
Case Lian Li O11DX Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) iFi Audio Zen DAC
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ 750 W
Mouse Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Keyboard Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Software Windows 10 x64
I think Wccf came to TPU with this *alleged rumor.

*with today's politics & politicians it's always nice to hedge your bets i.e. never give a straight yes or no :D

I believe
they think we started this rumor. Must've missed the source link.

Taking a page from your book, R0H1T, hope you don't mind :rolleyes:
 
Joined
Sep 20, 2016
Messages
4 (0.00/day)
I've seen Polaris with dropped voltages consume very little power. I don't know whether it would be on


From w1zzard's review, here

That is the ONLY time I have EVER seen that happen. Like, ever. I'd definitely need to see it repeated as it goes against all benchmarks I've seen elsewhere. Thank you for posting though.

Edit: Actually, looking at other TPU reviews they have been able to repeat it with many of their 1070's. I'll have to scour the rest of the web to see if anyone else can mimic their results 'cause like I said it goes against everything I've seen over the last year.
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,929 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
I haven't heard anything from AMD other than the Computex press event invite.

No Vega NDA, no info, nothing on reviews.

Give them a poke, check that you're on a list somwhere. We got word that samples were planned to ship but not a time frame of when that would be.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.87/day)
Not quite the same. Like at all.

That's the exact same level of idiocy comparing GCN from even Polaris to Vega.

Besides, GCN is not a physical thing, you can't look at GPU schematic and say, see, that's GCN! GCN is a broad name for many things that form up a rendering pipeline (rasterizer, vertex unit, async unit, etc). In Vega, this broad name for many things combined is named NCU. Guess what, because it was changed so much it got a new name. Just like Fermi CUDA cores aren't the same as those on Pascal, so aren't the same those on Vega compared to older designs.
 
Joined
Dec 15, 2006
Messages
1,703 (0.26/day)
Location
Oshkosh, WI
System Name ChoreBoy
Processor 8700k Delided
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 Master
Cooling 420mm Custom Loop
Memory CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 2x8GB @ 3000Mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA 1080 SC
Storage 1TB SX8200, 250GB 850 EVO, 250GB Barracuda
Display(s) Pixio PX329 and Dell E228WFP
Case Fractal R6
Audio Device(s) On-Board
Power Supply 1000w Corsair
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores A million on everything....
The 1080 Ti competes with the Titan XP, so if the high end vega competes with the Ti, then it will compete with Titan.

Speaking of 16 gigs.... I dont see why anybody needs more than 640k.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
27,680 (4.13/day)
Location
Houston
System Name All the cores
Processor 2990WX
Motherboard Asrock X399M
Cooling CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory 4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard Keychron K8
Software W10P
That's the exact same level of idiocy comparing GCN from even Polaris to Vega.

Besides, GCN is not a physical thing, you can't look at GPU schematic and say, see, that's GCN! GCN is a broad name for many things that form up a rendering pipeline (rasterizer, vertex unit, async unit, etc). In Vega, this broad name for many things combined is named NCU. Guess what, because it was changed so much it got a new name. Just like Fermi CUDA cores aren't the same as those on Pascal, so aren't the same those on Vega compared to older designs.

It is the width thing. That is why they are pulling as much power as they do. Pushing them past their efficiency curve isn't helping either.
 
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
4,290 (1.11/day)
Location
Texas
System Name SnowFire / The Reinforcer
Processor i7 10700K 5.1ghz (24/7) / 2x Xeon E52650v2
Motherboard Asus Strix Z490 / Dell Dual Socket (R720)
Cooling RX 360mm + 140mm Custom Loop / Dell Stock
Memory Corsair RGB 16gb DDR4 3000 CL 16 / DDR3 128gb 16 x 8gb
Video Card(s) GTX Titan XP (2025mhz) / Asus GTX 950 (No Power Connector)
Storage Samsung 970 1tb NVME and 2tb HDD x4 RAID 5 / 300gb x8 RAID 5
Display(s) Acer XG270HU, Samsung G7 Odyssey (1440p 240hz)
Case Thermaltake Cube / Dell Poweredge R720 Rack Mount Case
Audio Device(s) Realtec ALC1150 (On board)
Power Supply Rosewill Lightning 1300Watt / Dell Stock 750 / Brick
Mouse Logitech G5
Keyboard Logitech G19S
Software Windows 11 Pro / Windows Server 2016
Huh, well that is an interesting naming scheme if it turns out to be true...

Well it does give me a little bit of interest in seeing these come to light if they are the new cards.
 
Joined
Jan 5, 2006
Messages
18,584 (2.69/day)
System Name AlderLake
Processor Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans
Memory 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2
Display(s) 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window
Audio Device(s) Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock
This isn't AMD'S current cards lol.

What part don't you understand, I said:
"I don't expect it to be even close to 150 Watts, for sure not less in power draw than a GTX1070"

AMD's current cards just draw more power than Nvidia's.
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2007
Messages
3,946 (0.63/day)
Location
Police/Nanny State of America
Processor OCed 5800X3D
Motherboard Asucks C6H
Cooling Air
Memory 32GB
Video Card(s) OCed 6800XT
Storage NVMees
Display(s) 32" Dull curved 1440
Case Freebie glass idk
Audio Device(s) Sennheiser
Power Supply Don't even remember
I've seen Polaris with dropped voltages consume very little power. I don't know whether it would be on


That is the ONLY time I have EVER seen that happen. Like, ever. I'd definitely need to see it repeated as it goes against all benchmarks I've seen elsewhere. Thank you for posting though.

Edit: Actually, looking at other TPU reviews they have been able to repeat it with many of their 1070's. I'll have to scour the rest of the web to see if anyone else can mimic their results 'cause like I said it goes against everything I've seen over the last year.

1080 isn't that fast. My 980ti is only about 11% off OC to OC at 1440.
 

64K

Joined
Mar 13, 2014
Messages
6,773 (1.73/day)
Processor i7 7700k
Motherboard MSI Z270 SLI Plus
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance
Video Card(s) Temporary MSI RTX 4070 Super
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB and WD Black 4TB
Display(s) Temporary Viewsonic 4K 60 Hz
Case Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA SuperNova 850 W Gold
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G105
Software Windows 10
The R9 Nano was more efficient than everything Nvidia had until the GTX 1080 finally came out.

Not sure where you're getting that. According to the review here

 
Joined
Jul 9, 2015
Messages
3,413 (0.99/day)
System Name M3401 notebook
Processor 5600H
Motherboard NA
Memory 16GB
Video Card(s) 3050
Storage 500GB SSD
Display(s) 14" OLED screen of the laptop
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling.
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.87/day)
The 1080 Ti competes with the Titan XP, so if the high end vega competes with the Ti, then it will compete with Titan.

Speaking of 16 gigs.... I dont see why anybody needs more than 640k.

16GB just of HBC memory. It can address far more than that. Meaning, when it'll reach actual 16GB needed for game and HBC won't be able to utilize any more of actual memory, the framerate drop off will be dramatically lower than when other cards reach their VRAM limit.

Resident Evil 7 was one of such examples if you used the shadow cache which pushed VRAM usage past 4GB and caused GTX 980 to struggle horrendously (even though without that thing, at same visual quality runs the game at like 100+ fps). That's the beauty of HBC system. Memory capacity becomes limitless basically. Sure, there is penalty since speed of external sources doesn't match HBM2, but it's better to have a penalty of few frames than 3/4 less framerate.
 

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
13,058 (2.39/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
This thread's a mess....
 
Joined
Apr 16, 2015
Messages
306 (0.09/day)
System Name Zen
Processor Ryzen 5950X
Motherboard MSI
Cooling Noctua
Memory G.Skill 32G
Video Card(s) RX 7900 XTX
Storage never enough
Display(s) not OLED :-(
Keyboard Wooting One
Software Linux
Is everyone gaming at 4K tomorrow? :)

I don't think I'll fill up all my 8GB so soon @1440p.

Because you can simply add another ram module to your GPU if the need arises. ... not.
 
Joined
Jun 16, 2016
Messages
409 (0.13/day)
System Name Baxter
Processor Intel i7-5775C @ 4.2 GHz 1.35 V
Motherboard ASRock Z97-E ITX/AC
Cooling Scythe Big Shuriken 3 with Noctua NF-A12 fan
Memory 16 GB 2400 MHz CL11 HyperX Savage DDR3
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2070 Super Black @ 1950 MHz
Storage 1 TB Sabrent Rocket 2242 NVMe SSD (boot), 500 GB Samsung 850 EVO, and 4TB Toshiba X300 7200 RPM HDD
Display(s) Vizio P65-F1 4KTV (4k60 with HDR or 1080p120)
Case Raijintek Ophion
Audio Device(s) HDMI PCM 5.1, Vizio 5.1 surround sound
Power Supply Corsair SF600 Platinum 600 W SFX PSU
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech G613 and Microsoft Media Keyboard
Please show me a single 1070 that's overclocked to match a stock 1080. The 970 can be overclocked to match a 980, but it's common knowledge that the 1080 is leagues above the 1070. Overclocking it closes the gap, but it's still behind by a calculated amount.

My thoughts exactly, the author must not read Techpowerup's own reviews.
 
Joined
Jun 16, 2016
Messages
409 (0.13/day)
System Name Baxter
Processor Intel i7-5775C @ 4.2 GHz 1.35 V
Motherboard ASRock Z97-E ITX/AC
Cooling Scythe Big Shuriken 3 with Noctua NF-A12 fan
Memory 16 GB 2400 MHz CL11 HyperX Savage DDR3
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2070 Super Black @ 1950 MHz
Storage 1 TB Sabrent Rocket 2242 NVMe SSD (boot), 500 GB Samsung 850 EVO, and 4TB Toshiba X300 7200 RPM HDD
Display(s) Vizio P65-F1 4KTV (4k60 with HDR or 1080p120)
Case Raijintek Ophion
Audio Device(s) HDMI PCM 5.1, Vizio 5.1 surround sound
Power Supply Corsair SF600 Platinum 600 W SFX PSU
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech G613 and Microsoft Media Keyboard
Joined
Feb 12, 2015
Messages
1,104 (0.31/day)
Not sure where you're getting that. According to the review here

Are you not looking at the 4K benchmark? That's an average using TPU'S roster of games. A roster that includes dubious inclusions like non-working batman games and anno.

Even with the bias, it was up there with Nvidia's most efficient cards. So again - why couldn't AMD do that again?

It would be easier this time too considering Vega is brand new, and the R9 Nano used aging GCN.
 
Joined
Dec 22, 2011
Messages
3,890 (0.82/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Cooling AMD Wraith Prism
Memory Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE
Storage Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse
Display(s) Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED
Case Antec 1200
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-850
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard Logitech UltraX
Software Windows 11
Paying a premium of $650 for an underclocked Fiji chip was lunacy, hence why they sold like Mein Kampf in Israel.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,556 (0.96/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Paying a premium of $650 for an underclocked Fiji chip was lunacy, hence why they sold like Mein Kampf in Israel.

Man, that analogy was so edgy, I nearly cut myself....
 
Joined
Dec 22, 2011
Messages
3,890 (0.82/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Cooling AMD Wraith Prism
Memory Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE
Storage Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse
Display(s) Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED
Case Antec 1200
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-850
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard Logitech UltraX
Software Windows 11
Man, that analogy was so edgy, I nearly cut myself....

I knew you'd be upset, but I'll try harder if it finally pushes you off the edge.
 
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Messages
4,089 (0.57/day)
Location
Ancient Greece, Acropolis (Time Lord)
System Name RiseZEN Gaming PC
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
Cooling Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans
Memory G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
Video Card(s) ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G
Storage Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 180Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p
Case Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE
Power Supply Corsair RM750x Power Supply
Mouse Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition
Keyboard Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition
Benchmark Scores I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming...
Joined
May 31, 2016
Messages
4,437 (1.43/day)
Location
Currently Norway
System Name Bro2
Processor Ryzen 5800X
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
Cooling Corsair h115i pro rgb
Memory 32GB G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14 @3800Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) Powercolor 6900 XT Red Devil 1.1v@2400Mhz
Storage M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Display(s) LG 27UD69 UHD / LG 27GN950
Case Fractal Design G
Audio Device(s) Realtec 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic 750W GOLD
Mouse Logitech G402
Keyboard Logitech slim
Software Windows 10 64 bit
I'm waiting. Not gonna bitch about AMD or NVIDIA to get any attention. I know what I know and I'm comfortable with it. I'm waiting cause I know it is worth to wait.
 
Joined
Jul 9, 2015
Messages
3,413 (0.99/day)
System Name M3401 notebook
Processor 5600H
Motherboard NA
Memory 16GB
Video Card(s) 3050
Storage 500GB SSD
Display(s) 14" OLED screen of the laptop
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling.
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
6,728 (1.39/day)
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-13700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 32GB(2x16) DDR5@6600MHz G-Skill Trident Z5
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo
Storage 2TB SK Platinum P41 SSD + 4TB SanDisk Ultra SSD + 500GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 3440x1440@100Hz G-Sync
Case NZXT PHANTOM410-BK
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe
Power Supply Corsair 850W
Mouse Logitech Hero G502 SE
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64bit
Benchmark Scores 30FPS in NFS:Rivals
Leaked, leek, lick.....
 
Top