AMD Ryzen 9 Series "Threadripper" CPU Socket Detailed

[thesmokingman]

LGA is better, just accept it

Stop hijacking a news thread with your whining.

 

[oxidized]

Building/servicing/repairing PC's is a part of my profession as well and has been for the better part of 30 years. Each socket type has it's pro's and con's. The mistake you're making is that you're asserting your opinion as a concrete fact when it is not. It is only your opinion. A bent pin on a PGA CPU is a MUCH easier fix than a damaged pin in an LGA socket. That is only one example of many as to why some people feel PGA is a better methodology.

PGA is worse from every point of view, it's next to impossible to bend LGA socket pins, you really have to be an idiot for that to happen.

Stop hijacking a news thread with your whining.

Stop justifying AMD every time, for every choice or move they do, they did many errors which they keep doing, it doesn't make people cool to support the underdog just because

 

[Totally]

PGA is worse from every point of view, it's next to impossible to bend LGA socket pins, you really have to be an idiot for that to happen.

Stop justifying AMD every time, for every choice or move they do, they did many errors which they keep doing, it doesn't make people cool to support the underdog just because

'Next to impossible' yet it still happens. Then you attribute such to user error, when it comes to bent pins on PGA it's not?

I was done replying but holy mother of hell.

 

[oxidized]

'Next to impossible' yet it still happens. Then you attribute such to user error, when it comes to bent pins on PGA it's not?

I was done replying but holy mother of hell.

It's always user error, but the possibilities are much higher on one compared to the other.

 

[thesmokingman]

PGA is worse from every point of view, it's next to impossible to bend LGA socket pins, you really have to be an idiot for that to happen.



Stop justifying AMD every time, for every choice or move they do, they did many errors which they keep doing, it doesn't make people cool to support the underdog just because

The irony.

 

[oxidized]

The irony.

It happened to you?

 

[lexluthermiester]

PGA is worse from every point of view

Except for the example I just stated and many others that could be mentioned.

it's next to impossible to bend LGA socket pins

Really? The motherboards you buy have socket pins made of adamantium or something? Cause I've seen more than a than a few LGA sockets with damaged pins. Replacing a CPU is easier and often less expensive that replacing a motherboard.

you really have to be an idiot for that to happen.

Or just human.

Stop justifying AMD every time, for every choice or move they do, they did many errors which they keep doing, it doesn't make people cool to support the underdog just because

This debate is about LGA vs PGA sockets.

All you're doing is being a jerk fanboy who's letting their pride react instead of making points of reason and logic. Go do some growing up and come back when you can present a lucid argument to support your position.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The irony.

IKR?

 

[oxidized]

Really? Are the motherboards you buy have socket pins made of adamantium or something? Cause I've seen more than a than a few. Replacing a CPU is easier and often less expensive that replacing a motherboard.

No they're just hardly reachable and they're already bent, as i said they're not actual pins like on PGA cpus, they're low profile contact points

Or just human.

Yeah, no.

All you're doing is being a jerk fanboy who's letting their pride react instead of making points of reason and logic.

Are you sure you're talking about me? I mean criticize products is fine, but reaching this level makes you look ridiculous, seriously, one is the better thing, the other is the worse, with the latter being also probably less expensive to manufacture, and manufacture motherboards with.

I'm done talking

 

[lexluthermiester]

No they're just hardly reachable and they're already bent, as i said they're not actual pins like on PGA cpus, they're low profile contact points

Thank you for proving my above point.

Yeah, no.

And again...

Are you sure you're talking about me?

I addressed you directly, sooo what do you think?

I mean criticize products is fine, but reaching this level makes you look ridiculous, seriously, one is the better thing, the other is the worse, with the latter being also probably less expensive to manufacture, and manufacture motherboards with.

More drivel.. Are you done yet?

I'm done talking

Oh, you sure are! Glad to hear that!

 

[erocker]

I'm done talking

Yeah, that's enough.

Keep on topic folks.

 

[ZoneDymo]

rip thread XD

 

[lexluthermiester]

Been doing some reading and research elsewhere and it seems the general consensus is that Ryzen 9 will actually be a worthy competitor, performance-wise, for Intel's newly announced Core i9. There's also some rumors floating around that Ryzen 9 will be power efficient as well. If true, this could shake things up for the workstation/server market even more than the desktop market, leaving only the notebook/mobile/ultra-mobile market for AMD to dip into.. This is going to be a fun year!

 

[justimber]

whew...too much fanboyism in the comments thread.

pga vs lga
amd vs intel
amd vs nvidia
coke vs pepsi
and the list goes on and on...

and it all boils down on one's preference....you don't need to be an @$s to force your own preference to another person

 

[justimber]

Been doing some reading and research elsewhere and it the general consensus is that Ryzen 9 will actually be a worthy competitor, performance-wise, for Intel's newly announced Core i9. There's also some rumors floating around that Ryzen 9 will be power efficient as well. If true, this could shake things up for the workstation/server market even more than desktop market, leaving only the notebook/mobile/ultra-mobile market for AMD to dip into.. This is going to be a fun year!

this..and we can say "Welcome back AMD!" - Intel has been playing this lazy game for a long time already....just introducing minor updates in their products but selling them at a premium...

 

[Totally]

whew...too much fanboyism in the comments thread.

pga vs lga
amd vs intel
amd vs nvidia
coke vs pepsi
and the list goes on and on...

and it all boils down on one's preference....you don't need to be an @$s to force your own preference to another person

It was just one fanboy of intel/lga, way to attempt to derail things again.

 

[lexluthermiester]

this..and we can say "Welcome back AMD!" - Intel has been playing this lazy game for a long time already....just introducing minor updates in their products but selling them at a premium...

Exactly. Of the last 10 systems I've built/upgraded, 4 were Ryzen based. And Ryzen CPU's are performing very well at price-points that make them look very appealing compared to Intel's offering and all while going easy on the electrons. The only real down-side is overclocking. Ryzen 7's can get to 4ghz stable consistently, while the Ryzen 5's are getting to 4.1ghz. Intel's are getting much more overclocking headroom, generally. But if OCing is not a thing, or not the most important thing, to a user then Ryzen's are very attractive. It will be interesting to see the running stats for Ryzen 9.

Welcome Back AMD indeed!

EDIT; For the record I am and have historically been an Intel guy, but I've always loved watching the competition in the market between CPU makers. Loving AMD's come-back if for no other reason than to make Intel kick things up a notch or two!

 

[Gasaraki]

A bent pin on a PGA CPU is a MUCH easier fix than a damaged pin in an LGA socket.

True but it's harder to damage a "pin" on a LGA mobo so same difference.

 

[lexluthermiester]

True but it's harder to damage a "pin" on a LGA mobo so same difference.

Again, just your opinion, not supported by all experiences. Now back to the original topic..

 

[close]

oxidized, give it a break. I've seen just about the same number of CPUs with bent pins as I've seen sockets with destroyed pins. The difference being it's not a stretch to straighten up or even solder a CPU pin back, while a broken socket is usually permanent. If you add to this that Intel's durability ratings for the LGA 1150 socket (as an example) are 20 insertions for the socket and 15 cycles for the socket pick and place cover you just get to realize that both options have their pluses and minuses.

Now you're obviously not qualified to say what's better so lay off, and stop thinking that everybody who disagrees with you must be an idiot because you have the ultimate say in everything .

Most solutions are a compromise and each manufacturer chooses what fits best for their product. If you hate one solution that much that pick the other one and be done with it.

Now, for 4000 pins an LGA sounds like the better option especially since I expect most workstations sporting this CPU won't see that many upgrades to exceed the ratings of the socket.

 

[Outline]

PGA has the downside of no brackets to hold the cpu, resulting in pulling up the cpu together with the heatsink sometimes

Did that a couple weeks ago with a hyper 212 evo

 

[SirBalbador]

guys I think we can all agree that BGA is much better than PGA or LGA