AMD Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition Unboxed, Benchmarked

[eidairaman1]

Sorry, 300 is my cap on any GPU.

 

[sweet]

I agree. If the keep 4096bit width just switch to HBM2, use 14nm to boost up clock speed then it might be better.

And yeah I know I know next to squat about GPU electronic engineering yadayada.

HBM2 is not cheap, and 4096 bit means 4 stack and doubling the cost for VRAM unfortunately.

 

[xkm1948]

HBM2 is not cheap, and 4096 bit means 4 stack and doubling the cost for VRAM unfortunately.

Instead of 2 stacks of 8GB, how about 4 stacks of 4GB? Or better, 4 stacks of 2GB? More bandwidth is always good.

 

[laszlo]

too expensive for what can do...

another review:

quite a fiasco for amd ...

 

[sweet]

too expensive for what can do...

another review:

quite a fiasco for amd ...

For what it can do, it is quite a bargain. We are talking about a $1000 card that is equal to a $5000 one in pro tasks.

It's just wrong if this card is judged solely on its gaming performance.

 

[Xzibit]

too expensive for what can do...

another review:

quite a fiasco for amd ...

Unfortunately i saw most of the video. At 1hr 20min he realizes hes not in gaming mode (I think he gets told by the viewers). Then he has issues with Afterburner and doesn't want to use WattMan cause he doesn't really know how.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Unfortunately i saw most of the video. At 1hr 20min he realizes hes not in gaming mode (I think he gets told by the viewers). Then he has issues with Afterburner and doesn't want to use WattMan cause he doesn't really know how.

And gaming mode doesn't do anything for games lol. It's just chill, wattman and w/e the record shit is called...?

 

[laszlo]

For what it can do, it is quite a bargain. We are talking about a $1000 card that is equal to a $5000 one in pro tasks.

It's just wrong if this card is judged solely on its gaming performance.

at some pro task it may deliver; consumer versions will not be better in terms of gaming and they can't ask more than 500 $ for top product... wonder if they manage to cover costs...

 

[sweet]

at some pro task it may deliver; consumer versions will not be better in terms of gaming and they can't ask more than 500 $ for top product... wonder if they manage to cover costs...

Why are you so sure about that bold statement? Note that AMD themselves said that RX Vega will be much faster than Vega FE in games. They also said that who wants to game should wait for RX Vega as well.

Also, we still don't know if RX Vega comes with HBM or not. If not, the production cost would be significantly reduced and a much cheaper price is quite feasible while maintaining some margin.

 

[Xzibit]

And gaming mode doesn't do anything for games lol. It's just chill, wattman and w/e the record shit is called...?

He didnt run test after he installed the updated drivers. Once he was told he installed them and just loaded W3 and ran around for 10seconds in the grass and thus made his comparison from that, he loads and runs around. Thats a summary of the last 30mins of the video. 1hr 35+ he says he was getting 32-35 on previous drivers then with the new ones he says he gets from 36-43 game mode & pro mode.

The video should be called I don't know how to work my machine because he keeps saying "It's gonna crash, i think its gonna crash!!!"

This was a pro benchmarkers move. When hes using the drivers that came with the card there is a part where he is running test, Hes looks at the info display and says "I might have something running in the background? Yeah, I have something running in the background"

 

[Deleted member 172152]

After 10 years of similar fan and cooling designs you expect THIS time it changes everything how radial coolers have worked? Having reviewed and/or owned probably in excess of 100 graphics card, very many with radial fan designs, I do find your ignorance to reality a bit insulting.

yawn.. links...

You go look through thousands of games. I have a life.

I'm actually wondering why this card exists.
It's not a gaming card, and at $1000 it can't compete with similar offerings.
It's not a workstation card, as it gets beaten by much smaller (die) ws gpus...
Disproven.
The only reason I can think of as to why is AMD wasting Vega chips on this abomination (and not on RX) is probably due to the early chips being utter crap. Hence the delay between FE and RX Vega.
Could be, although vega FE isn't crap.
A jack of all trades, but pretty mediocre at all of them.

Again, disproven.

 

[Boosnie]

too expensive for what can do...

another review:

quite a fiasco for amd ...

My eyes and eras are bleeding.
My brain is bleeding too for the utter lack of competence of this guy.

 

[Recus]

not throttling

 

[rtwjunkie]

You go look through thousands of games. I have a life.

YOU made the claim. Those of us who apparently, by your insinuation, don't have a life already know the number of DX12 games is minuscule. DX12 has so far turned out to be the most irrelevant DX yet.

When you make a claim like that in a forum, you need to be able to back it up, which you seem to be unable/unwilling to do.

 

[Xzibit]

Throttling

That another funny part. Hes not using 2 fans to cool it. He has a mickey mouse setup Nactua (92mm I think) fan wrapped in Amazon Prime cardboard pushing air into, when he has a Corsair 120mm fan right next to it. A similar Nactua w/ Amazon Prime sucking air out of the exhaust.

@1:42:00+

Its funny how he says its Thermal throttling 3seconds after loading W3 and the screen with Afterburner the temp says 51c.

 

[qubit]

My point of view :

1. No driver update in this world would boost it by 30-35% (where the hype-train showed it would land).
2. Prosumer card or not it's marketed with a "GAMING MODE". Last time I checked the Titan didn't perform worse than the "gaming" version although the Titan is clearly aimed at gaming (no pro driver support) but it also has some deep-learning usage where it is 20-25% faster than a 1080 Ti.
3. The price is outrageous for what it can do (don't get me wrong the Titan is a rip-off as well) in both gaming and/or pro use
4. AMD did state they won't be supplying the card for reviewers. Yet they were the ones that made a comparison vs a Titan in the first place (mind you in pro usage with the Titan on regular drivers - Thanks nVidia for that).
5. No sane person would pick this vs a Quardo or hell even a WX variant for pro usage.
6. AMD dropped the ball when they showed a benchmark vs a Titan (doesn't even matter what was the object of the bench itself). nVidia being them never showed a slide where the competition is mentioned they only compare the new gen vs the current gen (tones down the hype).
7. Apart from the 700 series every Titan delivered what was promised(and that's cuz they didn't use the full chip in the Titan).

Long story short rushed, unpolished release. Jack all support. Denying the reviewers a sample. AMD is trying to do what nVidia does with the Titan but it's clearly not in the position to do so. In other words AMD just pulled another classic "AMD cock-up". Again this is my POV, had high hopes for this ... but then again I should've known better...

Don't worry, none of this will stop the AMD fanboy apologists from defending AMD to the hilt, attacking the likes of you and me. Weird, as we're not the enemy here, just pointing out the shortcomings of some for-profit company selling substandard stuff, so they should be thanking us instead. Oh and the fanboys don't even get paid for it.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

I am not sure why people are so bothered about the gaming side of this card and compare it with the Titan Xp in gaming, it's not made for that is like you would compare a Ferrari with a comfort mode available on it with an S class for the comfort on the normal roads...

 

[Imsochobo]

well he only has a 550W PSU when AMD recommends 850W for this card.(bet 750 would be fine though)

tis no issue on a singlerail psu 550W without OC.
end of discussion.

 

[KainXS]

tis no issue on a singlerail psu 550W without OC.
end of discussion.

The Power Discussion is over yes I know.

Normally when a GPU does not get enough power from the PSU it crashes the system or cuts off from its protection but with that system and 600W PSU, the PSU must have been bad or cheaply made. Even with this Vega card, a 550W PSU is not what I would recommend but if his PSU is a quality one(RM550 or something) it should run and the PSU should not be the limiting factor here. Thermaltake years ago made some really shifty PSU's on their low end, maybe that was your problem.

 

[Basard]

No. If you believe this ridiculousness, then Fiji is much faster (about same scoring as Fury X at 1.25 GHz).

I guess you gotta rile up fanboys for attention, though.

Might as well ignore all posts for a couple months.

Yeah... that's why I come here, to rile up fanboys and to get attention...

So it's a Fury X at 1600Mhz with shittier memory then?

I just call em like I see em. Based on all of the posts I've seen in the last couple months, I see this as a 1600Mhz Fury X, which isn't bad... just not great.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Yeah... that's why I come here, to rile up fanboys and to get attention...

So it's a Fury X at 1600Mhz with shittier memory then?

I just call em like I see em. Based on all of the posts I've seen in the last couple months, I see this as a 1600Mhz Fury X, which isn't bad... just not great.

I meant you as a vaguery to everyone reposting this idiot from discus.

A fury x with polaris uarch would be a lot better than this...that's why this is just a joke.

 

[Th3pwn3r]

Don't worry, none of this will stop the AMD fanboy apologists from defending AMD to the hilt, attacking the likes of you and me. Weird, as we're not the enemy here, just pointing out the shortcomings of some for-profit company selling substandard stuff, so they should be thanking us instead. Oh and the fanboys don't even get paid for it.

Do Nvidia fanboys get paid for their smear campaign? This card is actually really good for what its intended use is.

Before you try to say I'm a fanboy, my best card is a 1080. However, I have two Amd cards and two Nvidia in my four running machines. When the consumer/gaming version of Vega drops I'm either getting one or another 1080ti. I'm not going to sit here bashing without knowing what I'm talking about though like 50% of people here.

 

[KainXS]

The Frontier Edition bios looks like it hit TPU's bios database

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/193092/193092

Edit:
58 KB is pretty small for an AMD bios though, it must be incomplete.

 

[qubit]

Do Nvidia fanboys get paid for their smear campaign?

I've no idea, you'll have to ask one.

This card is actually really good for what its intended use is.

I think not and I've explained why, so no point repeating myself. If you don't agree, that's fine by me. You certainly do sound like and AMD apologist/fanboy and owning an NVIDIA card doesn't change that.

 

[EarthDog]

You go look through thousands of games. I have a life.

like he said, you made the claim. I went out and provided a link (since i have no life, therefore the time) and here we are again with your lips around our collective rims blowing smoke up it. I dont mind the lips, but your words hold ZERO merit without support.

Support your claims or continue to be grouped with the other clueless muppets blowing smoke.