AMD Announces the Ryzen 3 Series Desktop Processors

[the54thvoid]

He said:


But still....

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Buying a used part from a ebay is a very silly way of comparing performance versus cost. Seriously people, you got to stop moving the goal posts to suit ill founded arguments.

 

[Dimi]

At microcenter, the 7600K's are going for 199$, have been for a while. You're looking at a price difference of 70-90 dollar considering you gotta spend about 10-20 more on a Z270 motherboard. Its honestly not that bad if you do 4 years with your PC.

I prefer to spend a little bit more on the CPU/Mobo/Ram because those seem to be the longest relevant components in my PC. To me at least.

I bet these cpu's will become outdated fast when Coffee Lake's lower end cpu's get released.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

At microcenter, the 7600K's are going for 199$, have been for a while. You're looking at a price difference of 70-90 dollar considering you gotta spend about 10-20 more on a Z270 motherboard. Its honestly not that bad if you do 4 years with your PC.

I prefer to spend a little bit more on the CPU/Mobo/Ram because those seem to be the longest relevant components in my PC. To me at least.

I bet these cpu's will become outdated fast when Coffee Lake's lower end cpu's get released.

Personal preferences aside, for a low budget build that $70-$90 is a huge savings.

 

[Static~Charge]

Okay, I'm going to speak blasphemy and say "Not everyone needs a Core i7 processor." It's a matter of being the right fit for the job. In some cases, the Ryzen 3 processors work great.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

You're better off buying a used 6500 or 6600/k for that much money. You get an IGP, much better CPU performance, and better peripheral performance. The R3 lineup is a total waste.

Says the expert how many pciex dya get on i3 , the peripheral support is miles better on R3, and for the cost of your cpu you could buy a discrete gpu and an R3 and a cheapo mobo.

So your not in the market for an R 3 are you just here to debate, troll or dya have something worth actually saying.

And only someone who knows nothing of chip manufacture and nothing of the pc eco system would have expected 1 ccx chips for R3, its that simple.
Read up , and stop talking rubbish.

I hope people wont be problems after 10 years and more after this purchase, like i haw whit Athlon in games.

Haha haaaaa well really ,use your phone its probably more powerful.
Funny guy but for apples to oranges my new (ish) Q 6600 is also shit at games now.
10 years use is Enough ....,......,................ .

 

[FrustratedGarrett]

Okay, I'm going to speak blasphemy and say "Not everyone needs a Core i7 processor." It's a matter of being the right fit for the job. In some cases, the Ryzen 3 processors work great.

That's right! Not everyone needs a core i7, but almost everyone needs a quad core processor these days. That's why you have the i5s. A used i5 from Ebay (or Kijiji), is a far better option for those who are looking to have decent CPU performance with an IGP for casual indie gaming for less than $200. These Ryzen CPUs are too slow and too lacking for $130.

 

[Durvelle27]

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Everyone of those are above $120 plus without warranty

Try again

 

[Hood]

Everyone of those are above $120 plus without warranty

Try again

Also, they all have 2-4 days to go on bidding, by which time they'll all be at $180. Which I'd much rather pay for a decent CPU instead of $130 for another one of AMD's sad little budget chips. Forget the warranty, delid voids it anyway.

 

[JATownes]

You're better off buying a used 6500 or 6600/k for that much money. You get an IGP, much better CPU performance, and better peripheral performance. The R3 lineup is a total waste.

At microcenter, the 7600K's are going for 199$, have been for a while. You're looking at a price difference of 70-90 dollar considering you gotta spend about 10-20 more on a Z270 motherboard. Its honestly not that bad if you do 4 years with your PC.

I prefer to spend a little bit more on the CPU/Mobo/Ram because those seem to be the longest relevant components in my PC. To me at least.

I bet these cpu's will become outdated fast when Coffee Lake's lower end cpu's get released.

Also, they all have 2-4 days to go on bidding, by which time they'll all be at $180. Which I'd much rather pay for a decent CPU instead of $130 for another one of AMD's sad little budget chips. Forget the warranty, delid voids it anyway.

I don't understand the bashing of this line of processors. Are none of you parents, or do you all just have deep pockets?

Most kids now days want "PC Master Race/Gaming/RBG Bling" computers when they are 11 and 12 years old. These things are perfect for kids wanting a custom built "gaming rig" with a discrete graphics and would run games flawless @1080 mid/high settings with something as cheap as an RX560. Slap it in a cool little "gaming" case and I get to be the amazing dad, but only spent a few hundred bucks out the door.

Not to mention the amazing upgrade path for cheap when all I have to do is swap a processor or a video card on birthday/Christmas.

I guess I'm just old, so I view things different.

JAT

edit: formatting

 

[Lionheart]

You're better off buying a used 6500 or 6600/k for that much money. You get an IGP, much better CPU performance, and better peripheral performance. The R3 lineup is a total waste.

Your constant whining & comments are a total waste, just admit it, i3's are dead.

 

[Static~Charge]

That's right! Not everyone needs a core i7, but almost everyone needs a quad core processor these days. That's why you have the i5s. A used i5 from Ebay (or Kijiji), is a far better option for those who are looking to have decent CPU performance with an IGP for casual indie gaming for less than $200. These Ryzen CPUs are too slow and too lacking for $130.

You're entitled to your opinion; I'm entitled to disagree. There are some situations where a Core i3 or Ryzen 3 processor makes perfect sense.

 

[Hood]

I don't understand the bashing of this line of processors. Are none of you parents, or do you all just have deep pockets?

Consider this; AMD's own last generation CPU (FX-8350) sells for the same price ($130), and has more than 2x the performance, on a mature platform with bugs worked out. So why would anyone buy this R3?

 

[JATownes]

Consider this; AMD's own last generation CPU (FX-8350) sells for the same price ($130), and has more than 2x the performance, on a mature platform with bugs worked out. So why would anyone buy this R3?

Less heat and power usage, DDR4, M.2, not to mention the need for a board with a beefy power delivery ($$$) to make it clock worth while. B350 boards are cheap and clock just fine without any real issues.

Did you miss that part about the upgrade path? AM3 and FX is a dead end platform. Birthday... small investment for an R5 or R7, Christmas...new video card. Look at that, all the sudden my kids have a new SINGLE part that makes their rig feel new and able to tackle any game with a very minimal investment, and I only bought ONE part each time. Why would I ever choose an 8350 for my children, and then them be stuck on a 4 year old platform, instead of something with a few years of life in it?

JAT

 

[Durvelle27]

Consider this; AMD's own last generation CPU (FX-8350) sells for the same price ($130), and has more than 2x the performance, on a mature platform with bugs worked out. So why would anyone buy this R3?

Hmmm let's see

Uses way way more power under load so you'd have to shell out extra for a beefier PSU, can run hot need to shell out extra for adequate cooling, needs a board with beefy VRMs or the CPU will throttle like crazy so you have to spend more for a beefier board, old dated platform with no upgrade path, trash single core performance, overall gaming is under an i3 in most games and some just barely the Sandy i5s.

 

[Hood]

Hmmm let's see

Uses way way more power under load so you'd have to shell out extra for a beefier PSU, can run hot need to shell out extra for adequate cooling, needs a board with beefy VRMs or the CPU will throttle like crazy so you have to spend more for a beefier board, old dated platform with no upgrade path, trash single core performance, overall gaming is under an i3 in most games and some just barely the Sandy i5s.

Well, it is still AMD, after all. Okay, I'd like to change my last statement to "Why would anyone buy any AMD CPU? Better?

 

[Durvelle27]

Well, it is still AMD, after all. Okay, I'd like to change my last statement to "Why would anyone buy any AMD CPU? Better?

Hmmmm maybe because they offer the best performance for price

But your small brain can't grasp that

Fanboyism

 

[JATownes]

Well, it is still AMD, after all. Okay, I'd like to change my last statement to "Why would anyone buy any AMD CPU? Better?

I don't understand the bashing of this line of processors. Are none of you parents, or do you all just have deep pockets?

Most kids now days want "PC Master Race/Gaming/RBG Bling" computers when they are 11 and 12 years old. These things are perfect for kids wanting a custom built "gaming rig" with a discrete graphics and would run games flawless @1080 mid/high settings with something as cheap as an RX560. Slap it in a cool little "gaming" case and I get to be the amazing dad, but only spent a few hundred bucks out the door.

Not to mention the amazing upgrade path for cheap when all I have to do is swap a processor or a video card on birthday/Christmas.

I guess I'm just old, so I view things different.

JAT

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Asked and answered already. You haven't really made any arguments against it yet.

 

[Hood]

Less heat and power usage, DDR4, M.2, not to mention the need for a board with a beefy power delivery ($$$) to make it clock worth while. B350 boards are cheap and clock just fine without any real issues.

Did you miss that part about the upgrade path? AM3 and FX is a dead end platform. Birthday... small investment for an R5 or R7, Christmas...new video card. Look at that, all the sudden my kids have a new SINGLE part that makes their rig feel new and able to tackle any game with a very minimal investment, and I only bought ONE part each time. Why would I ever choose an 8350 for my children, and then them be stuck on a 4 year old platform, instead of something with a few years of life in it?

JAT

So, when are you replacing your 6700K with Threadripper? Then you can enable the locked cores and have a 32 core monster.

 

[JATownes]

So, when are you replacing your 6700K with Threadripper? Then you can enable the locked cores and have a 32 core monster.

I'm not. I buy for my usage, and my 6700k is mighty fast for anything I do.

Which is kind of the point. I'm not saying "Oh the i3 is dead, blah blah", I'm simply saying there is a VERY big market for little chips like these, but it seems everyone keeps saying how worthless they are.

I have given logical reasons why this line is worthwhile, and cost effective for some really economical builds. So I was simply asking for your argument against it...I don't understand what my 6700k has to do with it?

 

[Hood]

I'm not. I buy for my usage, and my 6700k is mighty fast for anything I do.

Which is kind of the point. I'm not saying "Oh the i3 is dead, blah blah", I'm simply saying there is a VERY big market for little chips like these, but it seems everyone keeps saying how worthless they are.

I have given logical reasons why this line is worthwhile, and cost effective for some really economical builds. So I was simply asking for your argument against it...I don't understand what my 6700k has to do with it?

R3 trades blows with the i3, at similar price, and the platform has the potential to last a few years, so that's all good for budget-minded users. The bugs, spotty memory support, and driver problems might be okay to dump on your kids, since they have you to fix it or find work-arounds, but I don't enjoy fooling with those annoying problems, and with Intel, I don't usually have to. A smooth and pleasant user experience is much more important to me than saving a few dollars.

 

[JATownes]

To each there own. The memory issues you speak of are when running ram clocked over 3000Mhz (I wouldn't spend that kind of coin on RAM since it's a budget build), the AGESA updates have fixed most everything else, and as quick as Intel changes their platform, I'll stick with the socket I assume will last a few years. As a side note, when building a couple of machines, those extra $20-$50 per part start to add up quick, so I have a tendency to go with the cheapest platform that will meet my usage needs.

Intel has their fair share of problems, just like AMD does, but these R3s definitely hit a sweet spot in the market, in my opinion. But again, to each their own, we'll simply have to agree to disagree on this one.

JAT