Xeon Owners Club

[dorsetknob]

Cannot help you on that Still on X58

 

[Rehmanpa]

How does an i7 3930k compare to a xeon x5650? Just got a x79 system with a i7 3820 and was thinking about seeing if I could get a 3930k for around 80 USD on eBay. Just curious about the performance difference.

 

[Durvelle27]

How does an i7 3930k compare to a xeon x5650? Just got a x79 system with a i7 3820 and was thinking about seeing if I could get a 3930k for around 80 USD on eBay. Just curious about the performance difference.

Large upgrade and with a OC will definitely trump the X5650

I loved my X5650 and it performed amazing but that CPU will take the lead

 

[Rehmanpa]

Large upgrade and with a OC will definitely trump the X5650

I loved my X5650 and it performed amazing but that CPU will take the lead

That is nice to know. Thanks for letting me know about that. I'm thinking the 3930k will be quite a nice upgrade for it.

 

[leo_bsb]

Hi guys,
I'm currently using a X5650 @4ghz watercooled, 18gb ram, 780TI and 1080P 140Hz monitor.
I'll travel to USA on october and would be nice to use this opportunity to upgrade my system.
reading some reviews I still couldn't find a reasonable upgrade path to follow. Should I wait for the new AMD ryzen and videocards?

I would like to really see the difference in quality and speed but would be a waste of money to just upgrade videocard and monitor and keep my old X58 plataform?

I know it will only make sense to upgrade anything if I go 4K with a new monitor.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Well yeah Ryzen is really good no doubt but OC Xeon on 4Ghz have almost identical single core performance with stock Zen more or less,so in majority of the games you will have identical performance then again if you go with Ryzen 1700 or any of the 8c/16t you will have 4 more threads and overall better performance in applications that use more threads.......Considering 4k gaming you should know that even less capable cpu´s can handle easily higher resolutions because with higher res your GPU become bottleneck not the CPU...........

 

[leo_bsb]

Well yeah Ryzen is really good no doubt but OC Xeon on 4Ghz have almost identical single core performance with stock Zen more or less,so in majority of the games you will have identical performance then again if you go with Ryzen 1700 or any of the 8c/16t you will have 4 more threads and overall better performance in applications that use more threads.......Considering 4k gaming you should know that even less capable cpu´s can handle easily higher resolutions because with higher res your GPU become bottleneck not the CPU...........

That is why is a hard choice to upgrade or not.
My system is showing some signs of getting old. I'm afraid to not upgrade and my mobo die on me in a few months.
Six core and 12 thread at 4ghz is hard to beat. The upgrade is going to be very expensive

 

[Zyll Goliat]

That is why is a hard choice to upgrade or not.
My system is showing some signs of getting old. I'm afraid to not upgrade and my mobo die on me in a few months.
Six core and 12 thread at 4ghz is hard to beat. The upgrade is going to be very expensive

I guess that you know that when it comes to the X58 platform good mobo is the key,I just recently start to play with Xeon as it was cheap upgrade and also I could keep my old ram,before I owned FX 8300(still here gonna sell it soon)and it was OK cpu when it was OC but it lacks in single core performance and memory speed&latency comparing it with Xeon wich mean it was noticeable in gaming on 1080p or lower res. but to be honest as I play most games on 3 screens the performance there is almost negligible,sure its smoother on xeon but still negligible when it comes to the overall fps count on higher res.....

Now if you start to experience some problems with your rig maybe is the good idea to sell it and switch to Ryzen but don´t expect miracle performance in gaming,from other side if you use video-editing or any other "work" that can use that 16 threads on Ryzen that will be significantly faster performance then your current Xeon........

 

[lyra]

Id say dont get a totally new platform but move up the range and get an x5690 or something to give you an even bigger overclock.

unless there are things you dont like like the longer post times of older x58 boards and the lack of things like m.2 ect ect

perhaps getting an x5690 and a 980ti or two would give you the performance you are looking for without having to spend a relatively large amount of money on a totally new system and keep the hipster points of running a xeon

 

[Techninja]

He guys,

Has been a few months but my intel x58so was showing some weird stuff like the bios bug regarding ramspeed (some posts ago).
It was also missing some of the key voltage setting to get a stable overclock beyond +/- 4ghz. So sadly I sold it a few weeks ago when i could buy a really cheap i5 6500.
Now a friend of mine asked me if I could build him a xeon pc (he wanted something different) but the x58 boards got mighty expensive lately where i live. So I looked a little bit futher and saw some cheapish 1230v2 cpu would it be able to overclock those on a p8p67 mobo? Or can i overclock those also on lower end boards? And what are the possible figures I would get regarding clockspeeds (if it's possible). I've googled a little but it seems like that there is the same problem as with the x58 platform where there are a lot of misconceptions surrounding xeons. So I returned to you guys again for some advice and practical experiences.

Sorry if anything is difficult to understand I'm trying my best to write proper english sentences though I'm still struggling. If anything is unclear please ask me what i meant and I'll try to explain it.

Thanks in advance to everyone trying to help me out,
Techninja.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

He guys,

Has been a few months but my intel x58so was showing some weird stuff like the bios bug regarding ramspeed (some posts ago).
It was also missing some of the key voltage setting to get a stable overclock beyond +/- 4ghz. So sadly I sold it a few weeks ago when i could buy a really cheap i5 6500.
Now a friend of mine asked me if I could build him a xeon pc (he wanted something different) but the x58 boards got mighty expensive lately where i live. So I looked a little bit futher and saw some cheapish 1230v2 cpu would it be able to overclock those on a p8p67 mobo? Or can i overclock those also on lower end boards? And what are the possible figures I would get regarding clockspeeds (if it's possible). I've googled a little but it seems like that there is the same problem as with the x58 platform where there are a lot of misconceptions surrounding xeons. So I returned to you guys again for some advice and practical experiences.

Sorry if anything is difficult to understand I'm trying my best to write proper english sentences though I'm still struggling. If anything is unclear please ask me what i meant and I'll try to explain it.

Thanks in advance to everyone trying to help me out,
Techninja.

Well I don´t know where are you from but I was also searching a lot for a good mobo,at the end I think I was lucky to find P6X58D Premium for 90€ that was in excellent condition...now if you want to switch on 1155 socket and build a xeon on it hmmm....All I know it´s that they don´t OC that good like X58/Xeons but I dont have any experience so maybe someone else can help you with this....anyway what is supposed to be purpose of that system,gaming,editing,server?

 

[Gasaraki]

Cannot help you on that Still on X58

I'm on X58 also!

 

[Techninja]

I searched a little bit myself and found some e3-1240v2/e3-1270v2 for around €100 those seem to be the best option (benchmark seems to be on par with a 3770). Anyone any experience with one of these cpu's? I've an old h61 mobo laying around doing nothing (asrock h61m-dgs) which seems overclockable (

) any of you guys some experience with h61 motherboards or this Extreme Tuner Utility from ASRock?

hope some of you maybe able to help me if so i would love to tell you the bechmarks/games if it's possible.

thanks for your time in advance,
Techninja

 

[Final_Fighter]

you wont be able to overclock them. ive had the xeon e3-1240, and e3-1270 both. they will work okay if you have a board already to put them in. both were able to run 2133 memory without issues the whole time i had them.

 

[Boatvan]

Dropping in to say that Xeons are crunching workhorses. I own 4 of them and they do the majority of my work. I know this isn't the most common use-case, but if you have one, even an older Xeon setup, (mine are circa 2011-2014) you can give it a try! I can't speak for OCing though as mine are all running at stock speed.

 

[lyra]

what is "crunching" ?

 

[dorsetknob]

what is "crunching" ?

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/world-community-grid-wcg.68/
short explanation
Using your Pc to help solve Scientific Problems for the good of mankind (and Womenkind )

@Norton

 

[lyra]

oooooh like folding @ home

 

[lyra]

right guys, my computer is loud as hell and i wanna quiet it down but im broke as hell. i know this isnt technically xeon related apart from the fact im gonna possibly be slapping one on a xeon but a lot of you guys are into heavy overclocking and are pretty old school too so...

Peltier coolers.

yeah I know, sub ambient cooling means ill have condensation problems but im pretty sure I can eliminate but what im thinking and id like some confirmations on what i think i know and some other things too.
what I know so far is that peltier coolers have a hot side and a cold side. it doesnt matter how hot the hot side gets as long as the heat is being dissipated by a cpu cooler or something.

so.

at the moment i have 4 noisy old fans in my computer and what i want to do is take my cooler off, put a peltier cooler on my cpu and then use my big ol heat sink passively on a peltier cooler keeping just the top or rear exhaust fans in my case to go from 4 to 1 fan?
this should work as long as i get a peltier cooler that doesnt require more than like a hundred watts of thermal dissipation (my cooler is a SilentiumPC fortis 3) and runs on 12v?

or should i just not go down this rabbit hole until i have a system that i dont mind killing?

 

[dorsetknob]

Peltier coolers.

mostly not used any more very power hungry
higher CFM fans might be an improvement
AIO Sealed System better but pumps can be noisy
@CAPSLOCKSTUCK can give you some idea of the noise footprint for various sized rad systems
Proper WC loop best for cooling but pump can be noisy just like an AIO sealed System ( full loop can have pump and Res mounted in a home made sound insulated box to improve (Reduce) noise footprint)

 

[lyra]

yeah if i had money id certainly just go standard wet cooling especially what with EKs cheap aluminium line that just came out.

i dont overly mind if they are power hungry, i know they are suuuper inefficent but i dont pay the electricity bill. its also got that wierd niche factor that i love so much (why i love xeons so much, apart from the obvious price to performance)

but like these peltier coolers are like 5 quid!!! :O !

 

[dorsetknob]

EKs cheap aluminium line

Arrrggg No no no not Aluminium

 

[lyra]

its only bad if you mix metals

 

[dorsetknob]

but like these peltier coolers are like 5 quid!!! :O !

Might be worth trying and inexpensive if they don't do the job you expect you may be able to move them on for a profit

edit not much chance of a profit ( on Researching it )
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007TPCEKI/?tag=tec053-21
Price: £2.31 FREE UK delivery.

 

[Edwired]

hi joined to say got an xeon e5450 clocked at 4.07 at 1.24v such a beast of a chip to go toe to toe against q9650.