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Intel Coffee Lake-S Features Similar Uncore Components to Kaby Lake

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Intel 8th generation Core "Coffee Lake" mainstream desktop processors could work on older socket LGA1151 motherboards based on Intel 200-series chipset, after all. A recent motherboard BIOS update by ASUS alters the name-string of a system device to read "Intel Kaby Lake/Coffee Lake-S Host Bridge/DRAM Controller," reinforcing the theory that Coffee Lake and its companion 300-series chipset make up the Kaby Lake "Refresh" platform.

Responding to a customer question, motherboard maker ASRock had recently commented that "Coffee Lake" processors won't be supported by current motherboards based on the 200-series chipset, dashing hopes of current platform users to upgrade to newer 6-core processors without having to unnecessarily buy a new motherboard and reinstall software. This development shouldn't necessarily raise hopes. Although Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake have a lot of architectural similarities, particularly with their uncore components, revised electrical requirements of the new chips could be behind the lack of backwards platform-compatibility. It remains to be seen if you can use your current "Skylake" and "Kaby Lake" processors on upcoming 300-series chipset motherboards.



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Or the Z370 is simply a rebranded Z270...
 
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We absolutely need a clear statement from intel about this.
Holding into a stock of motherboards is a difficult thing if you don't know if 90% of them would be obsolete soon
 
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I think the real question at this point is whether Intel itself still knows what they had decided earlier. Their roadmap is starting to look like politics, go left today, go right tomorrow, in a desperate bid to please the audience.

Inb4 the first guy that comes in saying 'they already planned and announced this more than a year ago'
 
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its a conspiracy with motherboard makers

Intel:we nedz pofitz
MBmaker:make a new chip for a new socket?
Intel: is it that time again??
MBmaker:we nedz profitz.
Intel:O'tay spanky.
 

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Why do I have the feeling that the only real difference is the socket has been re-wired to support the 6-core processors, and the name change on the chipset is just to make identifying compatibility easy.
 
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Why do I have the feeling that the only real difference is the socket has been re-wired to support the 6-core processors, and the name change on the chipset is just to make identifying compatibility easy.
wait, you dont think.... they think everyone is that stupid they could try to pull one over on us, again?
 
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I wouldn't mind upgrading my i5 6600K to a new hexa core CPU, but not going to upgrade my Motherboard, to expensive to replace both, so I'm still hoping that Coffee Lake maybe supported by the 100 series chipset, otherwise I don't really care about Coffee Lake, next years CPU's from Intel and AMD should be more interesting as far as development and refinement goes.
 
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wait, you dont think.... they think everyone is that stupid they could try to pull one over on us, again?

History has proven them right, so I get it.
 
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