Retailers are Buying AMD RX Vega 64 at $675 Each

[DeathtoGnomes]

Jesus what has happen to my TPU?!

@W1zzard @btarunr I got busted up for fighting with people more than once on TPU. Yeah, and a good amount of times it was 100% on me for trolling. But, dammit I trolled with honor! With that being said you guys have more mods than ever and the riff raff comes in here and starts insulting all the staff. More and more everyday! Things didn't used to be this way. There used to be a balance. You guys should let me off the leash like the old days. Ill have 90% of these noobs raging quitting life.

On a side note to the staff. Keep killing it guys. The old school guys are still here and got your back.

Brown nosing at its finest! Sucking up to the establishment even!


/ontopic

@btarunr This is misleading if MaLabs is truly a qualified distributor because they can only sell if the purchaser has a tax code and anyone wanting to be a retailer can get one easily enough. afaik distributors dont have same restraints as a retailer/reseller and can set any price they want, the same as a retailer. The pic is an image of an invoice and is not a final bill of sale. The bill of sale will have on it any discounts, rebates, shipping costs, and,finally the corrected pricing. The invoice seen here is for itemized tracking (and note there is no shipping cost)

 

[Gasaraki]

That's the dumbest idea I've heard this year lol.

Firstly, Vega 64/56 are already two of the worst cards going for mining performance compared to price and power consumption. Secondly, it's not miners buying them it's gamers and professional users. Thirdly, crippling the cards compute performance would make it useless for anything but games, so there go the professional sales that are currently keeping the ship afloat (and there's no guarantee that would drive those sales to the Vega FE and not the Titan).

AMD could stop releasing drivers that "boosts mining by 50%"...

 

[birdie]

i like the thoughts... but its one hell of a leap to say look at a steam survey a week or two after a card releases, nkt see many on there and think they went mining. Ill let you figure out the large gaps between those two things.

Moar likes from AMD fanboys. Keep them coming. Meanwhile in the real world:

AMD Radeon RX 470 0.34%
AMD Radeon RX 480 0.92%

That's less than NVIDIA GeForce 840M which is a mobile only GPU which has sold less than 100K units.

RX 4XX series has been on the market for more than a year already.
RX 5XX series has been on the market for four months.

RX 570 and 580 are nowhere to be seen. Keep deluding yourself that people use modern AMD GPUs for gaming. I'd love to see this dying breed.

AIB's need to just sell direct. Problem solved. What do they need online retailers for anyway?

Logistics and post-sale support (warranty, returns, etc). AIBs don't have money, people and resources for that.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Brown nosing at its finest! Sucking up to the establishment even!


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@btarunr This is misleading if MaLabs is truly a qualified distributor because they can only sell if the purchaser has a tax code and anyone wanting to be a retailer can get one easily enough. afaik distributors dont have same restraints as a retailer/reseller and can set any price they want, the same as a retailer. The pic is an image of an invoice and is not a final bill of sale. The bill of sale will have on it any discounts, rebates, shipping costs, and,finally the corrected pricing. The invoice seen here is for itemized tracking (and note there is no shipping cost)

Oh man you have no idea what your messing with. I'm on a leash son.

 

[SPLWF]

Damn they smokin crack

 

[Slizzo]

As much as I'd love to be proven wrong, I don't think there will be a consumer-segment Volta card with HBM2, only expensive Tesla or Quadro. NVIDIA will pull through using GDDR5X or GDDR6 for GeForce.

So far GDDR5X has proven more than fast enough, so that's OK with me. I would like to see what improvements GDDR6 brings along.

 

[brian111]

Brown nosing at its finest! Sucking up to the establishment even!


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@btarunr This is misleading if MaLabs is truly a qualified distributor because they can only sell if the purchaser has a tax code and anyone wanting to be a retailer can get one easily enough. afaik distributors dont have same restraints as a retailer/reseller and can set any price they want, the same as a retailer. The pic is an image of an invoice and is not a final bill of sale. The bill of sale will have on it any discounts, rebates, shipping costs, and,finally the corrected pricing. The invoice seen here is for itemized tracking (and note there is no shipping cost)

As previously pointed out the retailer is well known according to Wizzard. MaLabs is definitely a major distributor. I have no idea for certain if the invoice in this case is truly a reflection of final price but in the industry I worked in it definitely was. There is no shipping listed because it was sent UPS collect.

 

[Frick]

Moar likes from AMD fanboys. Keep them coming. Meanwhile in the real world:

AMD Radeon RX 470 0.34%
AMD Radeon RX 480 0.92%

That's less than NVIDIA GeForce 840M which is a mobile only GPU which has sold less than 100K units.

RX 4XX series has been on the market for more than a year already.
RX 5XX series has been on the market for four months.

RX 570 and 580 are nowhere to be seen. Keep deluding yourself that people use modern AMD GPUs for gaming. I'd love to see this dying breed.

I think Vega was the point. But whatever.

 

[EarthDog]

Moar likes from AMD fanboys. Keep them coming. Meanwhile in the real world:

AMD Radeon RX 470 0.34%
AMD Radeon RX 480 0.92%

That's less than NVIDIA GeForce 840M which is a mobile only GPU which has sold less than 100K units.

RX 4XX series has been on the market for more than a year already.
RX 5XX series has been on the market for four months.

RX 570 and 580 are nowhere to be seen. Keep deluding yourself that people use modern AMD GPUs for gaming. I'd love to see this dying breed.



Logistics and post-sale support (warranty, returns, etc). AIBs don't have money, people and resources for that.

THe irony in you calling me an AMD fanboy is god damn hilarious. Perhaps consider the ditching the barbs.

Hey now!!! Something we can hang our hats on... data sets which have been out long enough to be worthwhile in the RX4xx... good job!

I think Vega was the point. But whatever.

It absolutely was as that is what the thread title is about!!! Who knew he meant older cards??!!! So many people here on both sides are full of piss and vinegar, it is hard to have an intelligent conversation without these useless barbs and insults being heaved. TPU has more staff than ever, yet this problem is more rampant........and TMM is about to be let loose. Its like, armageddon here.

 

[Readlight]

cant they just create vega gaming card for 130 euro whit speed like rx580. RX 460 is super slow.

 

[springs113]

Not for nothing i see a lot of ppl yapping and whining about Vega never being sold for the $500(vega64) price tag. I for one bought 2 at that price. I used to love coming to these forums. TPU had its share of imbeciles but lately i feel like it's a bunch of grade schoolers arguing about who's sitting next to whom. The quality of discussion as certainly taken a hit. Come on ppl can we all be civil.

 

[birdie]

To duck with your point if you weren't taught to read in school.

My post was about the fact that modern consumer level AMD GPUs are not bought for anything other than mining but you can think anything you want. Just be grounded in reality - it might help.

Anyway, this discussion is completely worthless. Keep fanboyism running.

 

[infrared]

birdie, I will give you 1 free warning... You've been throwing around a lot of insults for a while now and it needs to stop. If you consider the discussion worthless then stop posting in the thread or better still unfollow it, because at this point it's starting to look a lot like trolling.

The warning goes for everyone, I'll be handing out thread bans and/or points for anyone that can't be civil.

 

[ZoneDymo]

AMD can go suck it
they made their own bed, now sleep in it! I won't shed any tears

idk about that, you can now wait longer for Volta as there is no need to push it out earlier sooo you are not winning with this either.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Oh man you have no idea what your messing with. I'm on a leash son.

muahahaha

 

[DidoD]

There is another option AMD can try, in our opinion. It can re-launch RX Vega 64 and RX Vega 56 as new SKUs which come with crippled cypto-currency mining abilities (a special BIOS or something driver-level, or even something at the silicon-level), and discontinue the RX Vega 56 and RX Vega 64. The new SKUs could be clearly advertised as not being meant for crypto-currency mining (so as to deter false-marketing lawsuits). This is important for AMD, because the Radeon brand is under threat.

the FE should be that mining card and the Vega`s gaming with bad driver/bios for mining, makes more sense.

 

[semitope]

I hear that Samsung's HBM2 costs $250-300 so they can't sell it at $499. $599 is also impossible. They must sell it with some profitable articles in a tie-in sale, so they introduced that Radeon Pack.

you should know that's not likely to be true.

Moar likes from AMD fanboys. Keep them coming. Meanwhile in the real world:

AMD Radeon RX 470 0.34%
AMD Radeon RX 480 0.92%

That's less than NVIDIA GeForce 840M which is a mobile only GPU which has sold less than 100K units.

RX 4XX series has been on the market for more than a year already.
RX 5XX series has been on the market for four months.

RX 570 and 580 are nowhere to be seen. Keep deluding yourself that people use modern AMD GPUs for gaming. I'd love to see this dying breed.



Logistics and post-sale support (warranty, returns, etc). AIBs don't have money, people and resources for that.

you guys aren't even trying to make sense.

 

[jimmyz4202]

Not for nothing i see a lot of ppl yapping and whining about Vega never being sold for the $500(vega64) price tag. I for one bought 2 at that price. I used to love coming to these forums. TPU had its share of imbeciles but lately i feel like it's a bunch of grade schoolers arguing about who's sitting next to whom. The quality of discussion as certainly taken a hit. Come on ppl can we all be civil.

I bought my 2 cards at microcenter on launch day, they only had 4 total and tried to say they were 699 marked down to 599, wouldn't price match, I bought them at 599 then talked to the mgr and got them to re- ring for 499 and got my free game codes.

 

[birdie]

birdie, I will give you 1 free warning... You've been throwing around a lot of insults for a while now and it needs to stop. If you consider the discussion worthless then stop posting in the thread or better still unfollow it, because at this point it's starting to look a lot like trolling.

The warning goes for everyone, I'll be handing out thread bans and/or points for anyone that can't be civil.

Read the comments to my posts and you'll understand why I'm struggling to be civil. I'm posting relevant factual data - I receive inanities in response: specially this one below: "you guys aren't even trying to make sense". Anyways, I will follow your advice and I stop participating in this thread altogether.

 

[Kursah]

Read the comments to my posts and you'll understand why I'm struggling to be civil. I'm posting relevant factual data - I receive inanities in response: specially this one below: "you guys aren't even trying to make sense". Anyways, I will follow your advice and I stop participating in this thread altogether.

If you struggle to be civil, then don't post. Pretty simple.

If you or anyone else here decides to continue posting offensively or aggressively, then expect to earn points from infractions. Follow the TPU forum guidelines, play nice, enjoy your time here.

Feel free to share your information and facts, that is always appreciated. But there is no need for any kind of aggressive or offensive treatment of others here from any member to any other member, period. If anything, that kind of drama devalues the facts and points made, because the focus is now on said drama. No thanks.

If you feel your point and posts must degrade to offending others with personal insults, you're better off not posting. This goes for everyone involved in this thread. Thanks!

 

[Countryside]

Lets make one thing clear how many retailers in total have paid more than the advertised price of 499.

 

[Alphadark]

You know I just really want to build a new rig.

I was going to go from my i7 4770k with a 390x to a ryzen 1800x with a 1080 or Vega 64(I have solar panels so I don't give a crap about power usage) but the prices are all over the damn place. the 1080 has gotten more expensive and the VEGA is in 1080ti territory which makes no sense.

I have yet to find someone selling the Aqua pack VEGA for a reasonable price either. They are marking up other items to make a huge profit on the "discounts"......I give up.

 

[nemesis.ie]

If you are not maxing your panels you may want to do a bit of mining - if the weather is cooler.

 

[Xzibit]

As previously pointed out the retailer is well known according to Wizzard. MaLabs is definitely a major distributor. I have no idea for certain if the invoice in this case is truly a reflection of final price but in the industry I worked in it definitely was. There is no shipping listed because it was sent UPS collect.

Its also stamped received on the 21 and writing in the stamp says Call Call if my decrypting cursive is right.

They shipped to themselves once they received they stamped it and either called the buyer or this was the slip put into the package sent out to the purchaser.

UPS-Ground-Collect = Someone payed for it with there UPS account. If it was the distro he could have just added the shipping cost to the final price.

Many unknowns due to redactions and just left out of the article. One purchase became a blanketed statement.

 

[Totally]

Don't distributor do volume pricing, the less you buy the closer to retail you pay and more you buy the less you pay per unit?