For me ZOTAC and AORUS were priced roughly the same. Europe that is. Which is why I picked AORUS because ZOTAC has weird fan bug and a bit weak VRM cooler. Otherwise I'd probably go with ZOTAC.
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Case | Corsair Carbide 330R |
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Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w |
If they haven't already done so in private, it shouldn't be very difficult or expensive for the industry to add something like the SMART feature for storage devices. Reporting simple metrics like total time powered on, average GPU workload, average GPU temperature, etc. would give the manufacturers some facts to base their warranty status decision.
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Yeah, it's fine for us to brick a card and report it as faulty, so they can send a new one?I will not buy from this company or any company does anything remotely similar.
I honestly hope this company goes under... We just don't need stuff like this.
Stop making graphics cards with marginally good enough VRM and cooling. Then you have no need to make stupid threats about your products dying under heavy compute use.![]()
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Mouse | Logitech G500s |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 RGB with low profile red cherrys |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64-bit |
Actually, running VRM at the GPU temperature 70 - 90c is fine. I would not call that very hot, since many VRM designs actually run beyond +100 degrees celcius.Except Inno3D is probably the only company which actually has a separate VRM cooling stack (iChill X4) that bypasses the main heatsink entirely. Unlike most others that either just stick some tiny aluminium heatsink on VRM which is "cooled" by hot air from main heatsink or it contacts very hot main heatsink directly.
Mining shouldn't be considered abuse and it shouldn't kill the cards...Yeah, it's fine for us to brick a card and report it as faulty, so they can send a new one?
We need stuff like this, it hurts them since the specific users just abuse that right and get free card replacements. And if they try again and ask for another, when will that end? Then again, what if the card really broke down, 2 or 3 times, but it wasn't the user's fault.
It's a gray area, so it's hard to say what to root for.
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Cooling | EKWB on CPU + GPU / Heatkiller 60/80 on Mosfets / Black Ice SR-1 240mm |
Memory | 2x8GB G.Skill DDR4 3200C14 @ ---- |
Video Card(s) | Vega64 EKWB |
Storage | Samsung 512GB NVMe 3.0 x4 / Crucial P1 1TB NVMe 3.0 x2 |
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Case | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 |
Power Supply | SeaSonic 850W |
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Mining shouldn't be considered abuse and it shouldn't kill the cards...
Forcing a product to perform at higher designed levels in order to get sales should be considered abuse but they call it marketing.
Either the product can do what it's stated to do or they are selling bad products...
They know a certain percentage won't be able to do what they say it will and expect an estimated number to come back defective... I'm guessing Inno3d hit and has been hitting the high end of that and now wants an excuse...
Nope... People need to not buy from companies like this... so we don't have to put up with more of it..from more companies
If I remember correctly none of the consumer stuff is rated for 24/7 usage, it's only enterprise devices that are rated for 24/7. I think it's 8hrs/day that consumer products get rated for.I fully agree.
Inno3D has just opened themselves up for Lawsuits.
If the cards aren't meant to be run 24/7, then they MUST state what usage the card was designed for.
If the card is only warrantied for 3 hours usage a day (for example), their company is toast.
This really just smells of "we built these cards to such a tight margin, that we are not confident in them for 24/7 usage".
That looks like they cheaped out on the card/heatsink fab or components, and they know it.
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not far from a lawsuit for illegal spying.Crystal Bollock Gasing
i See this Email coming
from
Inno3D
Dear Sir / madam
With Regard to your Warranty Claim and with Regards to our Updated T&C (Copy included as Attachment Your Screwed.PDF)
We have Analyzed your product usage via Telematary provided by nvidia Our partner and it has Been Determined that this Card has been extensively used for Cryptomining
Your Claim Therefor has unfortunatly Been Refused
Yours sincerly
out u hung
senior RMA Claims Advisor Inno3D
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Motherboard | Asus Tuf B450M-Pro µATX +MosfetWB (x2) |
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Memory | 2x8GB G.Skill DDR4 3200C14 @ ---- |
Video Card(s) | Vega64 EKWB |
Storage | Samsung 512GB NVMe 3.0 x4 / Crucial P1 1TB NVMe 3.0 x2 |
Display(s) | Asus ProArt 23" 1080p / Acer 27" 144Hz FreeSync IPS |
Case | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 |
Power Supply | SeaSonic 850W |
Keyboard | Ducky One TKL / MX Brown |
If I remember correctly none of the consumer stuff is rated for 24/7 usage, it's only enterprise devices that are rated for 24/7. I think it's 8hrs/day that consumer products get rated for.
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
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Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
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Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
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Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | XTRFY M42 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Gpu utilization 99% for 24/7 is what these products need to be built for. Whether that is mining or gaming is irrelevant.
Given the fact that you'd run mining cards at an optimal perf/watt setting, there is no way they'll get as hot as one used for gaming at max utilization - and let's not forget we push a 10% OC on most AIB cards anyway if we game with them...
I love the people in this thread thinking a card used for mining is a write off - maybe Inno3D has a job for you?
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | XTRFY M42 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |