RX Vega Achieves 43 MH/s @ 130 W in Ethereum Mining

[thesmokingman]

No Vega definitely isn't for gamers. AMD used Geforce cards in their Gamescom booth.

Spoiler: pics

How are they going to show A/B comparisons if they don't use a B sample? Both NV and AMD use competitor products to show A/B comparisons. OMG, this is news!

 

[sweet]

How are they going to show A/B comparisons if they don't use a B sample? Both NV and AMD use competitor products to show A/B comparisons. OMG, this is news!

It seems your sarcasm detector is broken, or the guy you quoted is actually an absolute retard.

 

[TheMailMan78]

So many butthurt AMD employees on TPU now. Here's a pro tip. Build better products, hire a better marketing team, don't lie about price to reviewers. Believe it or not people can do math and hedging you bets with miners is a losing one.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

So many butthurt AMD employees on TPU now. Here's a pro tip. Build better products, hire a better marketing team, don't lie about price to reviewers. Believe it or not people can do math and hedging you bets with miners is a losing one.

Troll much , relevance Zero.
Were on about mining efficiency bullshit in this thread man ,get with the flow, just sounding like a butt hurt hater who woke up the wrong side of his bed, i do it myself sometimes.

 

[dozenfury]

If you could buy the 580 and Vega at retail, the 580 would be the most cost efficient based on pure mining speed (power aside). A 580 at $229 and 30 MH/s is about $7 per MH, vs. $9 or $11 for a Vega 56 (assuming the 56 could also hit 43 MH/s) at $400 or 64 at $500.

It's going to be different for everyone if the power savings would be enough to offset that, since power rates fluctuate so much. It's 6.5 cents kw/h in my area, but other areas are up to double that. And it still would take quite a while to make up the higher per MH card cost than a 580 in 15w an hour less power.

But it's all kind of moot until you can actually buy the cards for retail, since it's really going to be very tough to recoup costs at gouging prices. And there's the roll of the dice that ether prices won't crash again, and that difficulty doesn't shoot through the roof more than it has, and that ether doesn't go proof-of-stake before you earn your $ back. A year ago that was expected this past summer, so we're already kind of in bonus time for proof-of-stake.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Troll much , relevance Zero.
Were on about mining efficiency bullshit in this thread man ,get with the flow, just sounding like a butt hurt hater who woke up the wrong side of his bed, i do it myself sometimes.

100% relevance. Mining is a crap industry that AMD has decided to hitch its wagon too. Mining efficiency is kinda moot considering people don't even know what they are mining. AMD is playing off to this stupidity and it shows with all the hired fanboys in this thread.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

100% relevance. Mining is a crap industry that AMD has decided to hitch its wagon too. Mining efficiency is kinda moot considering people don't even know what they are mining. AMD is playing off to this stupidity and it shows with all the hired fanboys in this thread.

I dissagree but hey ho.
I don't think Amd aimed at mining its a result of trying to catch-up with nvidias gpgpu offerings as its clear Ai will be big in the future.
Your first comment"So many butthurt AMD employees on TPU now. Here's a pro tip. Build better products, hire a better marketing team, don't lie about price to reviewers. Believe it or not people can do math and hedging you bets with miners is a losing one."

Just decries Amds pr and pricing , nothing to do with mining efficiency imho
And with the tone you show again in a thread plus avatar ,sure seams like you have a chip on your shoulder and are leaning fanboi style yourself.

Amd fogot to send my pay check for the last 15 years where do I complain.

 

[ERazer]

At least Vega is gonna have better resale value than GTX. Unless the cryptocurrency mining market plummets. Then Vega's resale value is going to go down dramatically.

who would buy a used up mining card?

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

100% relevance. Mining is a crap industry that AMD has decided to hitch its wagon too. Mining efficiency is kinda moot considering people don't even know what they are mining. AMD is playing off to this stupidity and it shows with all the hired fanboys in this thread.

If AMD really is counting on mining for profits, they need to do a better job at catering to that community. Hired fanboi's aside.

 

[R-T-B]

100% relevance. Mining is a crap industry that AMD has decided to hitch its wagon too. Mining efficiency is kinda moot considering people don't even know what they are mining. AMD is playing off to this stupidity and it shows with all the hired fanboys in this thread.

I've been over this with you. What they are mining is very well established.

I really doubt AMD hires any fanboys. They don't have the money to do so.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I really doubt AMD hires any fanboys. They don't have the money to do so.

Didn't they split into a third division for that ? The RFG ?

who would buy a used up mining card?

I was thinking of miners picking up your used vega. I've seen people sell their used R9 290s from gaming rigs for 30-40% more than they're worth during the holidays.

 

[yotano211]

This thread is so full of poor mad angry gamers.

 

[Vayra86]

This thread is so full of poor mad angry gamers.

Doubtful, 90% already has Pascal.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I've been over this with you. What they are mining is very well established.

I really doubt AMD hires any fanboys. They don't have the money to do so.

Yeah I know "algorithms". Of what nobody knows.

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah I know "algorithms". Of what nobody knows.

Hot air of uncertain value. Kinda like farting..

 

[R-T-B]

Yeah I know "algorithms". Of what nobody knows.

SHA256? Equihash? They are known.

 

[ERazer]

SHA256? Equihash? They are known.

deleted, ill just google it.

 

[TheMailMan78]

SHA256? Equihash? They are known.

YES! and why did the NSA make SHA256? What's its purpose? (Cant wait to hear this tap dance).

 

[R-T-B]

YES! and why did the NSA make SHA256? What's its purpose? (Cant wait to hear this tap dance).

A simple math hash? What? Are you honestly arguing it computes something? (the algorithm is well known and doesn't, its creation was part of a public contest and was audited)

It's purpose is cryptographic comparisons.

There really isn't a tap dance.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I had thought SHA256 was/is part of windows 3.1 encryption security thing.

 

[Aleks]

Hey Guys!
Just wondering what mining software you're using withe the Vega's?
I can't seem to get my Claymore Miner to read the Vega's at all. It works fine with the 570 and 580's (and all the nVidia's) but cannot recognize the Vega Cards.
Any help would be awesome.

 

[medi01]

tl;dr
AMD for mining and compute
NVIDIA for gaming

$200 tax on adaptive sync monitor, if you go with nvidia card, makes your "for gaming" point moot.

Main issue with AMD is that their GPUs are nowhere to buy for reasonable price, not that they don't perform well.

 

[Vya Domus]

Gamers abandoned AMD a long time ago, even when its cards were faster and cheaper.

Actually it was the press that started throwing crap at them , as a result gamers strayed away form AMD.

It's sad but the only way AMD can recover is by doing exactly the same things that we hate Nvidia for doing. In reality it never really mattered if they had faster and cheaper cards because review sites always found vague and ridiculous reasons to not recommend their cards. Just look at reviews of the 290X and RX480.

Nvidia hold back Volta because it will have tons of Compute with its 7 TPC per GPC.
The successor of the GTX1080 could have 3584 Cores with 4 GPC.
I whould bet on 5 TPC per GPC again, but with new SM (without TensorCores)
they have plenty of month for tuning now, because Vega failed so hard.
I bet GCN Navi doesn´t reach the 1080Ti either, even if Navi clocks with 2.5GHz.

Sorry to say this , but you don't really know what you are talking about.

 

[Aquinus]

YES! and why did the NSA make SHA256? What's its purpose? (Cant wait to hear this tap dance).

As @R-T-B said, the same reasons as any other hashing function. SHA256 just has a longer result which means more possible unique values to avoid the collision of two inputs mapping to the same output.

 

[_Flare]

Actually it was the press that started throwing crap at them , as a result gamers strayed away form AMD.

It's sad but the only way AMD can recover is by doing exactly the same things that we hate Nvidia for doing. In reality it never really mattered if they had faster and cheaper cards because review sites always found vague and ridiculous reasons to not recommend their cards. Just look at reviews of the 290X and RX480.



Sorry to say this , but you don't really know what you are talking about.

So, do you think the 4.5GHz of your FX-6300 is worth the same as same GHz with a Ryzen or i7-7700K?
i think, yes

Do you think energyefficiency matters when talking about gaming?
i think yes, if you don´t have electricyty for free
i think yes, if you want to easily and quiet cool your rig

Do you think there is a factor "x" in per clock-performance, when comparing nvidia GPU-Cores to AMD GPU-Cores?
i think the upper limit is about 1:1.25 to 1:1.33 advantage per clock at nvidia in average in games

this is btw one big point in the efficiency, just compare the Watt, Performance and Efficiency etc. of the 2048 Core Cards: GTX980 with the RX470, RX570
and additionally the GTX1070 with 1920 Cores.

maybe you learn a bit