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[Zyll Goliat]

But but i am using a zotac 610

Don´t do it.....it´s mostly pointless sometimes helps with OC but there is a lot of horror stories if you OC PCI-E for more then 2 Mhz....

 

[FireFox]

Don´t do it.....it´s mostly pointless sometimes helps with OC but there is a lot of horror stories if you OC PCI-E for more then 2 Mhz....

Thanks a lot for the advice I was reading about it and it was said that it is very risky.

edit: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108461-pcie-overclock-benefits/

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Thanks a lot for the advice I was reading about it and it was said that it is very risky.

edit: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108461-pcie-overclock-benefits/

NP....Did you doubt in old "BEAR"like me....and yeah long long time ago I experience from first hand PCI-E OC.......2900XT was my victim.....

 

[FireFox]

NP....Did you doubt in old "BEAR"like me....

No way, I couldn't even dare to do such an horrendous thing like that before your advice when @Regeneration told me to increase it I was already googling

Edit: Been honest, @Regeneration said to increase it by 2-3 and a few Forums it has been said that it is safe but if you go above 110 then it could be dangerous.

 

[Regeneration]

Well How´s that exactly worst score from yours with faster RAM speeds?And how much in %?
PS. MY CPU Here Was OC on 4,118GHZ
GPU core was on 1519Mhz

Here, I downclocked just for you. Couldn't match the GTX 970 to your clock. Physics score is higher and 3DMark doesn't use a lot of RAM.

 

[FireFox]

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[Zyll Goliat]

No way, I couldn't even dare to do such an horrendous thing like that before your advice when @Regeneration told me to increase it I was already googling

......Joke aside...PCI-E OC could potentially improve sometimes OC yes....it´s just not worth the risk but if you ever decide to do it from some crazy reason stay in range of +1 to +3 Mhz.....

 

[Regeneration]

But but i am using a zotac 610

What doesn't work

There is a known overclocking bug on X58: when you hit high BCLK and/or high QPI link (3800+), sometimes the PC won't POST, happens randomly. Raising PCIE by 1-3 MHz solves this problem. Google around, you'll see a lot of people suggest it on X58. And yes, raising PCIE frequency is dangerous WHEN its more then with just a few MHz.

EIST = Intel SpeedStep, power saving technology (downclock CPU when not in use), it only works with dynamic voltage. When you set static (fixed) vcore, it does downclock but without voltage reduction, so its useless. If you're interested in power saving, only C-states (CxE Function in your BIOS) work with fixed vcore, but BCLK must be 162 or below, otherwise you may encounter BSODs when idle. If you wish to keep SpeedStep, your motherboard must support dynamic vcore, and you have to add an offset.

 

[Regeneration]

Here are the bios's settings for that overclock, you tell me what to change.

Edit: that is for a 4.5 overclock not for the 4.2 i am using right now.

Here you go... if you can't set tRFC to 298, sometimes Auto does that for you. But make sure to run MemTest... messing around with timings can corrupt OS files really fast. Start with 1.5v and go up until you're stable.

 

[FireFox]

......Joke aside...

You are lucky because i don't know where you live

There is a known overclocking bug on X58: when you hit high BCLK and/or high QPI link (3800+), sometimes the PC won't POST, happens randomly. Raising PCIE by 1-3 MHz solves this problem. Google around, you'll see a lot of people suggest it on X58. And yes, raising PCIE frequency is dangerous WHEN its more then with just a few MHz.

EIST = Intel SpeedStep, power saving technology (downclock CPU when not in use), it only works with dynamic voltage. When you set static (fixed) vcore, it does downclock but without voltage reduction, so its useless. If you're interested in power saving, only C-states (CxE Function in your BIOS) work with fixed vcore, but BCLK must be 162 or below, otherwise you may encounter BSODs when idle. If you wish to keep SpeedStep, your motherboard must support dynamic vcore, and you have to add an offset.

Got it.

if you ever decide to do it from some crazy reason stay in range of +1 to +3 Mhz.....

Well i am already doing it

 

[Regeneration]

Other BIOS tips:

1. Enable Virtualization Technology, some 3rd party apps use it (not talking about VirtualBox and VMware), and has no negative effect with overclocking.
2. Disable Turbo boost... unstable when overclocking with static voltage. Light load can cause BSODs.
3. VDroop should be on to keep voltage stable at heavy load. Moderate level when idle/load voltages are the same.

 

[Regeneration]

Well How´s that exactly worst score from yours with faster RAM speeds?And how much in %?
PS. MY CPU Here Was OC on 4,118GHZ
GPU core was on 1519Mhz

I'm too lazy to download CineBench, but here are CPU-Z and AIDA64 memory benchmarks:



And remember, I downclocked the multiplier by 1 to match CPU clock with yours.

See, my e-penis is bigger

 

[Zyll Goliat]

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Here, I downclocked just for you. Couldn't match the GTX 970 to your clock. Physics score is higher and 3DMark doesn't use a lot of RAM.

Well....here This is my every day use GPU/CPU and here is the fresh result from FireStrike:

It´s nothing sensational and yet still beats your overall score......yeah CPU here is only on 3.986Mhz and RAM speed is 1260Mhz(weird right )....
Or thats maybe because I OC things that Actually matter when it comes to the Real-Performance gain....

 

[Regeneration]

Well....here This is my every day use GPU/CPU and here is the fresh result from FireStrike:

It´s nothing sensational and yet still beats your overall score......yeah CPU here is only on 3.986Mhz and RAM speed is 1260Mhz(weird right )....
Thats maybe because I OC things that Actually matter when it comes to the Real-Performance gain....

Again, don't look at the GPU score, mine cannot reach your clocks (especially VRAM). 3DMark doesn't use a lot of RAM, its mostly a 3D benchmark, but latest games like PUBG, and latest apps, use all available RAM, and thats where it matters. Whats your AIDA64 memory score?

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Again, don't look at the GPU score, mine cannot reach your clocks (especially VRAM). 3DMark doesn't use a lot of RAM, its mostly a 3D benchmark, but latest games like PUBG, and latest apps, use all available RAM, and thats where it matters. Whats your AIDA64 memory score?

You do realizing that your CPU there is still working on 150 Mhz faster speed right???And it´s making 14571 Vs 13634 in physics score..........honestly there is nothing there to bragg about.
I don´t have AIDA64 installed atm but I bet that you have a better memory score ........

 

[Regeneration]

You do realizing that your CPU there is still working on 150 Mhz faster speed right???And it´s making 14571 Vs 13634 in physics score..........honestly there is nothing there to bragg about.
I don´t have AIDA64 installed atm but I bet that you have a better memory score ........

Here, there are some benchmarks in this article.

139 fps vs. 157 fps, almost 12 percent in Battlefield 1, that's a noticeable difference. DDR frequency does matter.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Here, there are some benchmarks in this article.

139 fps vs. 157 fps, almost 12 percent in Battlefield 1, that's a noticeable difference. DDR frequency does matter.

It does matter more when it comes to the NEW DDR4 platforms.......but when it comes to OUR specific case in here....nah it´s mostly negligible.....

 

[Regeneration]

It does matter more when it comes to the NEW DDR4 platforms.......but when it comes to OUR specific case in here....nah it´s mostly negligible.....

18 GB/s > 29 GB/s isn't negligible, especially on Westmere and its slower IMC. Run a memory benchmark, you'll see for yourself.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

18 GB/s > 27 GB/s isn't negligible, especially on Westmere and its slower IMC. Run a memory benchmark, you'll see for yourself.

Again I am talking about EVERY DAY USE....things like GAMING for example right???
Srry...but it´s just not worth it.......

Shame there is no my 1333Mhz in there.....I can bet it beats them all when it comes to frames delivered per dollar

 

[Regeneration]

Grid 2, Thief, Metro Last Light, are OLD games. New games have higher RAM usage.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Grid 2, Thief, Metro Last Light, are OLD games. New games have higher RAM usage.

Ha ha ha...Ok...ok...I give up.............good night.......

 

[FireFox]

for this i have to use less Multiplier and higher BCLK.

And here with 10-12-12-31, tRFC wont go above 255, even if i set it auto.

Here with the 9-11-11-31 ( tRFC Auto 232 )

 

[Regeneration]

You can just adjust the memory multiplier... if you go for DDR 2000 range, try 10-10-10-26.

 

[Rehmanpa]

Still is amazing how even a core 2 quad 9650q I think it was is still gameable on. Intel, you gotta do betta if you want people on x58 to update to your new shitty socket!!!

 

[FilipM]

I get 27011 Read // 22426 Write // 29328 Copy

24GB DDR3 @ 1686 with 9-10-9-24 CR1. Westmere-EP



No need to push over 2000 apart for when benching RAM dependant apps.