LiteOn Intros MUX Series M.2 NVMe SSDs with Toshiba BiCS3 Flash

btarunr · Nov 27, 2017

LiteOn today introduced the MUX line of "entry-level" M.2 PCI-Express SSDs in the M.2-2280 form-factor. Available in 128 GB and 256 GB capacities, the drives feature PCI-Express 3.0 x2 host interface, and take advantage of the NVMe protocol. They combine Phison PS5008-E8 controllers with Toshiba BiCS3 3D-TLC NAND flash memory.

The 128 GB variant offers sequential transfer rates of up to 1500 MB/s reads, with up to 450 MB/s writes; up to 91,000 IOPS 4K random reads, and up to 110,000 IOPS 4K random writes; while the 256 GB variant is slightly faster, offering up to 1600 MB/s sequential reads, up to 850 MB/s sequential writes, up to 145,000 IOPS 4K random reads, and up to 140,000 IOPS 4K random writes. Both variants are backed by 3-year warranties.

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TheLostSwede · Nov 27, 2017

Another mostly pointless NVMe drive...

cdawall · Nov 27, 2017

That's weird that is the wrong keyway for a PCI-e drive

EarthDog · Nov 27, 2017

Looks like a B and M key....

R00kie · Nov 27, 2017

that interface doesn't look very PCIe-like to me...

cdawall · Nov 27, 2017

EarthDog said:
Looks like a B and M key....

Should be just an M key for PCI-e 4x?

EarthDog · Nov 27, 2017

gdallsk said:
that interface doesn't look very PCIe-like to me...

cdawall said:
Should be just an M key for PCI-e 4x?

Its a PCIe x2 device.

btarunr said:
Available in 128 GB and 256 GB capacities, the drives feature PCI-Express 3.0 x2 host interface, and take advantage of the NVMe protocol.

cdawall · Nov 27, 2017

EarthDog said:
Its a PCIe x2 device.

I wonder if that allows them to dual key. Just not something I have ever seen in PCI-e devices those are M keyed exclusively.

EarthDog · Nov 27, 2017

Yes. Only the x4 is key-M I believe.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...e-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/

cdawall · Nov 27, 2017

EarthDog said:
Yes. Only the x4 is key-M I believe.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...e-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/

How curious you can have B and M key for 2x. I have never played with the cheapo drives.

bonehead123 · Nov 27, 2017

TheLostSwede said:
Another mostly pointless NVMe drive...

^^agreed..This^^

EarthDog · Nov 27, 2017

Do tell, both of you guys, why you feel that way?

Hood · Nov 27, 2017

EarthDog said:
Do tell, both of you guys, why you feel that way?

It is sort of pointless for Z170 or newer systems, which have 3.0 x 4 M.2 slots that can run much faster drives. My Asus Z97 Deluxe board only has a PCIe 2.0 x 2 slot (only one or two Asrock boards had a 3.0 x 4 port on Z97, the rest were 2.0 x 2). But if priced low enough, still faster than SATA SSDs, and great for the few laptops that have the correct M.2 port.

TheLostSwede · Nov 28, 2017

EarthDog said:
Do tell, both of you guys, why you feel that way?

Well, it might be ok for cheaper laptops, but would you buy this? I doubt the price difference will be big enough to make it competitive compared with PCIe 3.0 x4 drives. The performance isn't really competitive even against something like the Intel 600p. Sure, the 256GB version claims to have slightly higher write speeds and IOPS, but let's wait and see some tests, as I doubt it'll deliver on the claimed numbers as LiteOn seems to be over promising and under delivering when it comes to SSDs.

Just look at what they've done with Plextor in the past year. I have an M8PeG SSD and it doesn't deliver the promised numbers, but now Plextor has the M8SeG which they claimed was going to be faster (they've changed that since then), yet it under delivers in every test and it's much slower than the M8PeG. Despite this, the M8Se range is more expensive than the M8Pe range, which makes no sense.

I used to be a big Plextor fan, but Liteon is ruining the brand by delivering a lot of mediocre products.

bonehead123 · Nov 28, 2017

EarthDog said:
Do tell, both of you guys, why you feel that way?

I would rather look forward (to higher performance drives) than backwards to slower, older and outdated ones.

Sure if you have an older system that still has Sata or spinner drives and you want a slight upgrade on the cheap, then go for it....

Bit otherwise, this drive is essentially worthless to everyone else IMHO...

EarthDog · Nov 28, 2017

TheLostSwede said:
I doubt the price difference will be big enough to make it competitive compared with PCIe 3.0 x4 drives.

Well, that is the thing, isn't it... we have no idea what the price will be, yet, you have disparaged it. Performance is right in the ballpark of the 600p as well.

As far as performance, reviews will tell that tale.

bonehead123 said:
I would rather look forward (to higher performance drives) than backwards to slower, older and outdated ones.

Sure if you have an older system that still has Sata or spinner drives and you want a slight upgrade on the cheap, then go for it....

Bit otherwise, this drive is essentially worthless to everyone else IMHO...

Who wouldn't (look forward)?

However this fills a gap between a normal SSD limited by SATA and the super fast NVMe drives. If its priced accordingly and performs as it says.... why not?

TheLostSwede · Nov 28, 2017

EarthDog said:
Well, that is the thing, isn't it... we have no idea what the price will be, yet, you have disparaged it. Performance is right in the ballpark of the 600p as well.

As far as performance, reviews will tell that tale.

Who wouldn't (look forward)?

Uhm, have you tried using a search engine?

The 256GB drive is about $110 not including tax and around $130-135 including tax in the shops where I've found it for sale.

Why would you not spend $18 more on Amazon (based on the non tax price) for a Samsung 960 EVO, or $12 less for a WD Black, or even $8.50 more for the Plextor M8Pe (which is made by the same company btw)?
Even in the same shops, you can get the Plextor M8Pe for around $30 more, including tax.

As I said, another pointless product, as you get so much of a performance reduction that it's not worth the cost difference if you're going to get an NVMe drive, unless possibly it's for a notebook and this uses a lot less power.

Note to the news poster, it's called the MU X, not the MUX - http://www.liteonssd.com/en/PRODUCT/CONSUMER-PCIE-M2/item/PCIE-M2/MU-X-MSATA.html

EarthDog · Nov 28, 2017

I had no idea you searched or pricing was available, honestly. I would have assumed that information, if available, would have made it into the news article.

Apparently I, like the author here, didn't search for it.

That said, no news outlet has pricing and I cannot find it in a cursory search.. can you link where you found the pricing?

MrMilli · Nov 29, 2017

Considering the controller is smaller, this will probably be priced below the 600p and WD Black.

Tom's did a performance preview with an early sample:

Full review here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/phison-e8-nvme-ssd,review-34071-2.html

Yeah, it's beating the 600p and WD Black across the board.
Don't forget that PCI-E 3.0 2x can do 1.97 GB/s. 4x is just a marketing gimmick on most drives.

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