X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[Aquinus]

Well....

I think my board is definitely one foot in the grave and there is no way to bring her back unless I get her recapped...

I noticed yesterday that the USB 3 ports on the back stopped working again. At first i thought it was just the external hard drive that I had hooked up that was borked and tested a load of other devices... Not surprisingly, none of them worked either. This is the same problem a few months back and replaced the PSU.

This has to be the 3rd or 4th time its happened and its just too much of a coincidence. Last time the PSU got replaced, but this time its definitely the not the PSU. I guess i'll have to start saving the pennies for a new machine.

Make sure you keep the USB 3.0 drivers up to date. The P9X79 uses external USB 3.0 controllers since X79 doesn't actually have on-PCH USB 3.0. Mine in fact has 3 independent controllers and they loved acting up without drivers and was the most finicky under Windows 7. Ironically, I've had the least number of issues with USB 3.0 on my board when running Ubuntu and before that Windows 10 seemed more stable (with respect to USB 3.0 drivers,) than Windows 7 was.

If the P9X79 Pro is like the deluxe, there are 3 controllers which means that it should be incredibly unlikely for all of them to fail simultaneously.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Make sure you keep the USB 3.0 drivers up to date. The P9X79 uses external USB 3.0 controllers since X79 doesn't actually have on-PCH USB 3.0. Mine in fact has 3 independent controllers and they loved acting up without drivers and was the most finicky under Windows 7. Ironically, I've had the least number of issues with USB 3.0 on my board when running Ubuntu and before that Windows 10 seemed more stable (with respect to USB 3.0 drivers,) than Windows 7 was.

If the P9X79 Pro is like the deluxe, there are 3 controllers which means that it should be incredibly unlikely for all of them to fail simultaneously.

Im using the most upto date drivers for my board. I even tried forcing newer unsigned drivers. Apart from a much longer boot to desktop times, ports still didn't work.

Its just something I have to come to terms with regardless if i want to or not. This lady ain't getting any younger.

Luckily i still have the add-in usb-3 controller card to keep things running.

 

[jaggerwild]

Thanks!

The best Xeons you can get is either 2690v2 or 2697v2

2690v2 should be able to have all 10 cores in 3.7Ghz
2697v2 should be able to have all 12 cores in 3.4Ghz

The image below shows how my 2680v2 can boost freq depending on load on cores. The 2690v2 should have 10c: 33x

Cant you advance the timings to get a higher, BLK? Or have you tried?

I'm still on my
3930K on a X79 Deluxe
2 X 780Ti's
16GB 2133Gskill
bunch of drives

Cause of health reasons, I'm not able to upgrade(anything)my GPU'S. But these can still game on my Chinese 1440 display.

[QUOTE="Im using the most upto date drivers for my board. I even tried forcing newer unsigned drivers. Apart from a much longer boot to desktop times, ports still didn't work.

Its just something I have to come to terms with regardless if i want to or not. This lady ain't getting any younger.

Luckily i still have the add-in usb-3 controller card to keep things running.
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Freedom,
Check the board near the USB plugs to see if the contact solder is wearing out? Try stringing a ground across the I/O'S ?
I have a P9X79_LE I been sitting on, bought it to resell but as yet to revive it(and I cant just swap out my 3930K as its under water with rigged tubing). I think I flashed it back to life as there is no bad components on the board and looks new. I had to rename the new bios properly "P9X79LE.CAP" plus use the bottom right USB 2.0 port to flash it back.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I can tell you my USB ports are wonky on my RIVE 4 as well and most everything works, MOST everything. But certain camera's, flash drives etc just refuse to work with any USB port I use so I can definitely tell you the X79 can be a bit finicky with its' USB ports. I have a shit laptop with win 10 and some newer dual core Intel and works perfectly with anything and everything. Also don't know how much windows version may affect those ports?

 

[Peter Lindgren]

Cant you advance the timings to get a higher, BLK? Or have you tried?

I think something happens with BCLK when you go pass 114Mhz. My guess is that it sets to 125MHz.

I found the UBU-tool and modified my BIOS for ASUS P9X79 with updated roms for Intel RST and LAN. Finally I got TRIM to work with 2 SSDs in RAID0. I also inserted the ASUS ROG logo at boot

UBU
https://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html

 

[jaggerwild]

I don't have USB issue's, but then again I have no NEW USB stuff to test on it. Now and again it will not SEE something when plugged into it(my phone)or camera. I guess it is getting long in the tooth, just not a big issue here as of yet. I changed my profile to reflect my rig, I do have the sky lake CPU but mainly keep it for testing main boards I buy for resale(I have a ton of CPU'S for testing).

 

[Ubersonic]

Just thought I would mention that the Asus USB 3.1 PCI Express Type A card works flawlessly with my Rampage IV Gene. In case anyone else wanted USB 3.1 on Rampage X79.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Earlier today i was trying to get the new Battlefield 1 update, but I noticed that everytime i would try and update that it would knock that particular drive 'offline' Like I would still see it in windows but i wouldnt be able to read or write to it. This happened twice but i messed about with the connections and it seems OK for now.

This hiccup doesnt make me any less terrified that one day im gonna wake up and my PC will refuse to boot because the motherboard has died. I already know its a wounded beast with the rear USB 3.0 ports being dead but i honestly cant afford a new setup at this time.... If it dies I'll most likely take the cheap way out and buy a secondhand X79 for extremely bad value off ebay.

I dont like how im dragging out this setup when it should of been laid to rest but I just cant do it right now...


I swear to god I will give it a viking funeral in my backyard when it dies or if i manage to get a new system before it kicks the bucket...


The problem could be my SSD too! but i checked in SSDlife Pro and it still shows 100% (its a crucial so its supposed to be invincible unless bad firmware strikes)


I know my PC is gonna die sooner or later but

 

[dalekdukesboy]

My Rampage which is pretty much your board and I'm using same cpu @ same speed btw it's more than enough to do your gaming. You got the bandwidth and CPU power to play any game at extreme settings and you probably couldn't throttle the game via CPU/board/memory etc if you tried. So honestly getting a second hand board isn't a bad idea, they aren't exactly that expensive I'd bet you could get a good one at a reasonable price, just a pain in the ass swapping all the stuff over of course but that's just par for the course.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

My Rampage which is pretty much your board and I'm using same cpu @ same speed btw it's more than enough to do your gaming. You got the bandwidth and CPU power to play any game at extreme settings and you probably couldn't throttle the game via CPU/board/memory etc if you tried. So honestly getting a second hand board isn't a bad idea, they aren't exactly that expensive I'd bet you could get a good one at a reasonable price, just a pain in the ass swapping all the stuff over of course but that's just par for the course.

Ebay prices arent that great... £100+ for ONE motherboard. Guy selling a rampage+3930k combo for £250. Theres some Asus X79 LE's and some crappy cheap chinese rubbish like this BLACK SERIES X79R-AX DELUXE which probably wont OC at all. GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 is available on ebay as well. A lot of people doing Mobo+CPU+Ram combo deals so im going to have to fork out £250 to have something around the level of my X79 Pro board

 

[Aquinus]

This is kind of why when I saw a P9X79 Deluxe and a 3930k going for a more than reasonable price, I jumped on it. Honestly, building a machine right now is so expensive and it's nice to know that if I kill the 3930k or the board, I still have the 3820 and the same board crunching in the attic. The cost of DRAM and GPUs has made buying a machine or upgrading rather unpalatable.

Honestly, right now the only upgrades I'd even consider are cooling and storage upgrades.

 

[Tatty_Two]

By complete coincidence, I was looking at one of the UK tech sites literally a couple of minutes ago and came across an open box sale and saw a 4820k for £215, they had an open box 4830k too so posted here for UK members for information, presuming of course that your x79's got a Bios update for Ivy Bridge compatibility.......

https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecial...idge-E)+Processor+-+OPEN+BOX+?productId=62936

 

[FreedomEclipse]

By complete coincidence, I was looking at one of the UK tech sites literally a couple of minutes ago and came across an open box sale and saw a 4820k for £215, they had an open box 4830k too so posted here for UK members for information, presuming of course that your x79's got a Bios update for Ivy Bridge compatibility.......

https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-4820K+3.70GHz+(Ivy+Bridge-E)+Processor+-+OPEN+BOX+?productId=62936

Not really VFM tbh, 4c|8t for £215 is extremely poor value. i5-8400 is £160-180 and is a hexa core and will walk all over this 4820 as well as my 3930k. although you'll need to get a complete new machine for that 8400. but the argument is that if i was to pay £215 then i might as well cough up the another £200 more and get the whole shabang.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Not really VFM tbh, 4c|8t for £215 is extremely poor value. i5-8400 is £160-180 and is a hexa core and will walk all over this 4820 as well as my 3930k. although you'll need to get a complete new machine for that 8400. but the argument is that if i was to pay £215 then i might as well cough up the another £200 more and get the whole shabang.

But in context, 215 for an i7 as a replacement when you already have the platform isn't bad. If I could get a board for a decent price I would get the Hex and crunch with it as I still have some very decent 2133mhz DDR3 and an H80i lying around unused.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

This is kind of why when I saw a P9X79 Deluxe and a 3930k going for a more than reasonable price, I jumped on it. Honestly, building a machine right now is so expensive and it's nice to know that if I kill the 3930k or the board, I still have the 3820 and the same board crunching in the attic. The cost of DRAM and GPUs has made buying a machine or upgrading rather unpalatable.

Yes considering my rig most of it is literally 2012 or earlier, it still laughs at the stuff I typically do on it. Admittedly I was thinking going the lower tier boards/cpu for x79 was cutting edge and not that much better in some ways but I'm glad I did it's a beast and with good OC and fast memory etc it still is able to keep up in many tests/games etc with stuff brand new, and beats the lower tier stuff kinda sad but lucky for us in a way!

Honestly, right now the only upgrades I'd even consider are cooling and storage upgrades.

By complete coincidence, I was looking at one of the UK tech sites literally a couple of minutes ago and came across an open box sale and saw a 4820k for £215, they had an open box 4830k too so posted here for UK members for information, presuming of course that your x79's got a Bios update for Ivy Bridge compatibility.......

Agreed, I've got the 3930k and it works splendidly I just would prefer ivy but price was right and my ES 3960x was great and lower voltage/memory ability etc but I'd have to settle for a bios several years older due to ES compatibility dropped and newest bios was far better and more stable hardly any bluescreens or weird boots etc it really does make a difference bios can be all the difference in stability and OC.

https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-4820K+3.70GHz+(Ivy+Bridge-E)+Processor+-+OPEN+BOX+?productId=62936

But in context, 215 for an i7 as a replacement when you already have the platform isn't bad. If I could get a board for a decent price I would get the Hex and crunch with it as I still have some very decent 2133mhz DDR3 and an H80i lying around unused.

Agreed Tatty! As I said earlier this platform is far too viable for far too long but due to AMD sucking for so long Intel had no real reason to push the envelope just tweak and shrink for the most part and only recently has AMD even become a viable option due to lower price and good performance but still not to level of Intel last I checked anyway. I got an h110i and it's great for cooling particularly if you throw big fans on it lol, also some old but really good 2400 mhz memory that I think with an IVY I could get much better results out of but even as is it's pretty good!

I screwed up the first multi quotes so my reply is in the box and under the OP of the poster, sorry just FYI if you didn't look too closely, my bad.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Im debating whether it's worth me sending my motherboard out to a tech repair company to get it recapped.

Im thinking if i can get the who thing done for well under £100 it might just be worth it

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Did you check fleabay and such for a decent replacement just to see what it would cost with shipping etc?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I have. Not a lot of decent pickings given the platforms age sadly, Currently looking at a mobo+cpu combo (X79 pro + 3930k like my setup) which has just recently placed online but Thats probably going to go for £200-300 more or less.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I have. Not a lot of decent pickings given the platforms age sadly, Currently looking at a mobo+cpu combo (X79 pro + 3930k like my setup) which has just recently placed online but Thats probably going to go for £200-300 more or less.

Yeah, the real reason it's hard to find at a reasonable price for something that is ancient in tech years age is that the new platforms are so sucky that x79 is still extremely viable to use and even compared to the newest iteration intel has holds its' own...which it shouldn't. I bought mine in 2012 and here it is over half a decade later and even if I had the money to upgrade I wouldn't because there's no point...x99 meh and now we have the newest socket and it has some new features a die shrink and so on but overall it's just not worth several grand to get relatively similar performance especially considering you can clock the crap out of x79. What I'm going to do as the prices continue to go down is replace my 3930k with a nice 22nm ivy bridge probably 8 cores + and as AMD becomes more viable I'll update system in few years when they make real improvements worth money and time to replace every piece of system. For now....no thanks!

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Sigh..... I bit the bullet and bought a new system on credit... I have a grace period of 9 months before they start the direct debit payments from my account.

I have 9 months to find proper full time employment (Im currently P/T) or suffer the consequences of paying a butt tonne of interest ontop of the loan. I honestly didnt want to but I really have no choice atm I dont think my X79 board will hold up a few more months and the random shutdowns are getting more frequent.

The moment i sell my 3930k and ram I will shove it straight back to the lenders. so that should knock £200-250 off instantly. fingers crossed that my 3930k and ram sells for a decent amount.
i'll probably throw up my X79 pro mobo on ebay as a faulty parts and see if anyone is willing to take it.

It is farewell from me my brothers my 8600k setup should be here in a few days.

The road ahead is a long, dark and fearful one, But i now have the motivation to get my ass in gear and find F/T employment

New system shall be codenamed "Icarus" -- After that dumbass who flew to close to the sun... A very fitting name indeed

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Awwww....so now I have one less person to talk to about X79 what ever shall I do!? Lol. Seriously though prayers on Easter Sunday for you and for me, I know much of what you're talking about I've had a lot going on last year or two with money/work etc so I hear you! Just keep at it and it'll work out eventually. Yes I remember well the story of Icarus, melted his wings away essentially flying too close to the sun. Yeah I will have my X79 for many years to come unless I find a more lucrative living. Anyway feel free to post here with curses or fond memories of your X79 and honestly as the OP please feel free to post away about your 8600K setup because I'd actually like to see comparable numbers with that modern I5 setup versus our X79 setups...should prove interesting comparison!

By complete coincidence, I was looking at one of the UK tech sites literally a couple of minutes ago and came across an open box sale and saw a 4820k for £215, they had an open box 4830k too so posted here for UK members for information, presuming of course that your x79's got a Bios update for Ivy Bridge compatibility.......

https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-4820K+3.70GHz+(Ivy+Bridge-E)+Processor+-+OPEN+BOX+?productId=62936

Oh Tatty I just went back to this and wanted to just say keep me in mind for any good Ivy bridge E deals I am looking to upgrade this 3930K myself with a good ivy bridge hopefully unlocked and/or a crapload of cores.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I think i will be in very good hands with the 8600k. It looks to be more of a sidegrade. If you go the cinebench thread here and ctrl+f '8600k' you will find me with my 3930k not far behind it

the brute force clock speed beats down whatever advantage HT and quad channel memory offer me on my 3930k

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I think i will be in very good hands with the 8600k. It looks to be more of a sidegrade. If you go the cinebench thread here and ctrl+f '8600k' you will find me with my 3930k not far behind it

the brute force clock speed beats down whatever advantage HT and quad channel memory offer me on my 3930k

Just got a pretty good deal on the aforementioned E5-1680V2 there were 2 left when I bought it and shortly after last one was gone so glad I got it while I could! Anyway I also got it in mail today when it only hit the mail Friday so I am glad I didn't pay extra for the 2 day or next day shipping....I essentially got 2 day or even next day shipping practically because it got here so fast must not be much mail moving around, went from California to Massachusetts no less! Anyway I tried to take picture of it and I'll post the picture of it but my phone takes lousy picture so I'll use regular camera to get picture of the physical processor but slow internet so will take a while to upload a high-res picture. Will post more as I plop it in a bit later today and get some results! Should be nice upgrade from my mediocre OC'ing 3930K.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Just got a pretty good deal on the aforementioned E5-1680V2 there were 2 left when I bought it and shortly after last one was gone so glad I got it while I could! Anyway I also got it in mail today when it only hit the mail Friday so I am glad I didn't pay extra for the 2 day or next day shipping....I essentially got 2 day or even next day shipping practically because it got here so fast must not be much mail moving around, went from California to Massachusetts no less! Anyway I tried to take picture of it and I'll post the picture of it but my phone takes lousy picture so I'll use regular camera to get picture of the physical processor but slow internet so will take a while to upload a high-res picture. Will post more as I plop it in a bit later today and get some results! Should be nice upgrade from my mediocre OC'ing 3930K.

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My 3930k is up for grabs if any of you are interested. it will probably still do 4.6 I originally had it at before the board started getting a little older and i had to relax it to 4.5

 

[dalekdukesboy]

My 3930k is up for grabs if any of you are interested. it will probably still do 4.6 I originally had it at before the board started getting a little older and i had to relax it to 4.5

Oh come on all you have to say in reply to my good news is to hawk your 3930K? lol. Actually as long as I don't have an issue with new CPU I'll be getting rid of my 3930K too but I may keep it just as a backup not sure the 3930K is worth much more than 150 bucks or so.