Xeon Owners Club

[dorsetknob]

as for buying the cpu.. will it be better to buy from ebay or taobao?

i'm from the UK as is @CAPSLOCKSTUCK and while i have had Dealings with Ebay ( No Problems)
I have not had dealings with Taobao (i had to google who they were and it turns out they are Alibaba
So cannot comment on their Reliability or security in relation to if/when things go wrong

 

[Recon-UK]

Welcome Kelun.

If your board is a board that comes with 32NM support, it will boot a Xeon with no messing about.
For example the ASUS P6X58D-E and Premium versions are Xeon capable from the factory.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Welcome Kelun.

If your board is a board that comes with 32NM support, it will boot a Xeon with no messing about.
For example the ASUS P6X58D-E and Premium versions are Xeon capable from the factory.

Right. They did mention that they had a Sabretooth board and if IIRC, all of the X58 Sabretooth boards were 32nm and Xeon ready.

@kelun1 Look up your exact model number on the ASUS website and make sure you have the most recent bios revision.

 

[FireFox]

I got something new to play with

EVGA x58 SLI + Xeon W3670

 

[lexluthermiester]

I got something new to play with
EVGA x58 SLI + Xeon W3670

MicroATX X58 boards are a bit rare, and with 12GB of ram. Nice! Don't you have a few spare X56xx's? I would swap out the W3670 for one to get the extra performance from the faster QPI(6.4 vs 4.8).

 

[kelun1]

hi lex! thank you for the advise for the low power chip.. this one looks good and also help to cut down on the overall power consumption and allowing it to run cooler.

actually guys.... do i need a ECC ram for my board? i have looked around, seems like i do not need to change. hope that i am right... thank you.

 

[lexluthermiester]

hi lex! thank you for the advise for the low power chip.. this one looks good and also help to cut down on the overall power consumption and allowing it to run cooler.

You're welcome, happy to help.

actually guys.... do i need a ECC ram for my board? i have looked around, seems like i do not need to change. hope that i am right... thank you.

With that board and the X58 chipset in general, no, ECC RAM is not required. However, it can be of good use as it reduces the number of errors that go uncorrected in RAM, thus reducing the chances of crashes and/or BSOD. Standard ram will work well though.

 

[FireFox]

Don't you have a few spare X56xx's?

Yeap, i have a few X5675-X5677-X5690

 

[kelun1]

You're welcome, happy to help.

With that board and the X58 chipset in general, no, ECC RAM is not required. However, it can be of good use as it reduces the number of errors that go uncorrected in RAM, thus reducing the chances of crashes and/or BSOD. Standard ram will work well though.

so you mean that this board can use ECC ram right?

reason for asking about ECC is because it is relatively cheaper here. the price of ram is around 6gb ram = 12gb ECC.

 

[lexluthermiester]

so you mean that this board can use ECC ram right? reason for asking about ECC is because it is relatively cheaper here. the price of ram is around 6gb ram = 12gb ECC.

Generally speaking, yes. Unless the board was specifically engineered not to accept ECC RAM, it will as the X58 chipset was designed to natively support it. So you should be good, have at it! And I would definitely go for 12GB. If you plan on doing any heavy number crunching 18GB would likely be better.

 

[kelun1]

Both of those are good, but you'll get better bang out of an X5675 if you want to stay in the 95w range;
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Lot-of-...-Six-Core-12Mb-6-4GT-s-Processor/232705036254
But best bang over-all can be had with the x5680;
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Intel-X...5675-X5680-LGA1366-CPU-Processor/332363971652
Your existing cooler will be fine for the X5675 and X5680 both. Your i7-950 is a 130w part and if your cooler is working for it then you'll be good to go.

What you want to aim for will depend on what you want to spend. I have several Xeons, all 1366 and I've been pleasantly surprised by how well they are standing the test of time.

hi lex, i have went to read on this 2 processor... can you please teach me why X5680 is better then X5675? i see that 5680 uses more power and of cos higher freq...


an am looking at ecc ram too.. 16GB 2R*4 does it means 2 strips of 8gb? =x

 

[lexluthermiester]

hi lex, i have went to read on this 2 processor... can you please teach me why X5680 is better then X5675? i see that 5680 uses more power and of cos higher freq...

That about sums it up. The X5680 is a 130w rated part like your i7-950, runs at 3.33ghz, has two extra cores, has two QPI links that run at 6.4GT(instead of the 950's single 4.8GT QPI link). The X5675 is nearly identical in all respects except the speed which is 3.06ghz and being rated at 95w.

an am looking at ecc ram too.. 16GB 2R*4 does it means 2 strips of 8gb? =x

Remember you have triple channel ram capable motherboard and if you only use 4GBx4 then you will be stuck with single channel ram access speeds if you have them arranged 2+1+1, which is very slow. You'll be limited to dual channel access speeds if you arranged them 2+2+0 which is better but still slower than the potential of the board. It's best to arrange them in 3's, IE 1+1+1(=12GB) or 2+2+2(=24GB). If you're buying them in pairs get three pairs(6 x 4GB) and you'll have more ram then you'll likely ever need for that system. But if you are only getting two pairs then install three and leave the fourth out of the system. Also, Asus Sabretooth boards can run DDR3-1600 easily and there is plenty of that speed available, even with ECC.

 

[Recon-UK]

Been running mine in dual channel for ages with no difference in benchmarks, i have even beaten i7 9xx at similar clock speeds.

I have ran this memory kit with better timings, more mhz, gone above spec with them and not seen a single ounce of a difference for gaming or productivity.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Been running mine in dual channel for ages with no difference in benchmarks, i have even beaten i7 9xx at similar clock speeds.
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I have ran this memory kit with better timings, more mhz, gone above spec with them and not seen a single ounce of a difference for gaming or productivity.

Weird. I saw a big difference in video/image editing and remastering/re-encoding. You're right though, it just depends on what you're doing.

 

[FireFox]

If anyone is interested in an EVGA x58 SLI + Ram, Xeon W3670 or a paired Xeon X5690 PM me.

 

[kelun1]

That about sums it up. The X5680 is a 130w rated part like your i7-950, runs at 3.33ghz, has two extra cores, has two QPI links that run at 6.4GT(instead of the 950's single 4.8GT QPI link). The X5675 is nearly identical in all respects except the speed which is 3.06ghz and being rated at 95w.

i shall replay this part first.. the ram part i haven got time to digest! haha

noted! and since i want it to be lower power consumption, i will go with the X5675 which is the total same as X5680 but with a smaller appetite! =)

 

[FireFox]

i will go with the X5675 which is the total same as X5680 but with a smaller appetite! =)

X5680 uses more watts and has more GHz, the X5675 uses less watts and has less GHz, from my point of view they are almost but not the same.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

and since i want it to be lower power consumption, i will go with the X5675 which is the total same as X5680 but with a smaller appetite! =)

Here is the thing when you OC any of those 6 core Xeons power consumption is relative to yours voltage tweaking in the bios and silicon lottery....so if you plan to do OC and not to run CPU on stock speeds and original Voltages you can forget about that written specs...

 

[FireFox]

silicon lottery

That is the most important part when buying a CPU, if he gets a good X5675 the voltage shouldn't be that high, some of those X5675 i have runs 4.5Ghz 1.326V or some others with 1.348V

 

[lexluthermiester]

X5680 uses more watts and has more GHz, the X5675 uses less watts and has less GHz, from my point of view they are almost but not the same.

Thinking there's a slight language barrier thing here. What I think he meant was that aside from the speed, they have the same specs at lower power usage, which seems to be an important variable, thus the X5675 is more attractive in this case.

 

[kelun1]

Thinking there's a slight language barrier thing here. What I think he meant was that aside from the speed, they have the same specs at lower power usage, which seems to be an important variable, thus the X5675 is more attractive in this case.

hi yes lex got me! sorry about my language! haha

but i also do understand slightly what knoxx and zyll means too! im still gonna check out both of them and see how can i get hold of them. mostly will be from china!

If anyone is interested in an EVGA x58 SLI + Ram, Xeon W3670 or a paired Xeon X5690 PM me.

i am! i like the form factor of this board. been thinking of the cpu case issues for my sabertooth..

can i please ask how much will this be?

 

[lexluthermiester]

hi yes lex got me! sorry about my language! haha

No worries. Your english is good.

 

[FireFox]

As i told you ask in here if it's worthy to buy my Motherboard +Ram

 

[pasnger57]

ok few days now stable not set and real OC just letting it be itself
Processor..::Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650 @ 2.67GHz::.. Clock..::3192MHz::.. Cache..::21KB::.. Memory..::6212/12279MB (50.59%) Motherboard· Manufacturer..::EVGA::.. Type..::132-BL-E758

 

[kelun1]

hi guys. i have gotten my X5680! it is running well in stock with a avg temp of 40C with no air-con. Will get a 212EVO by next week to make it lower. and i will try to OC it (which by then i will ask for more advise, totally new to this! but excited to try).

And i do have a question now. currently i am running 3 x 2gb Kingston HyperX 1600 ram. i am thinking of increasing the ram to 6 x 2gb, making it 12GB in total. but its so hard to search for the same kind as those rams has consider old in the market now. or i can mix 3 x 2gb value ram 1333/1600 with this hyperx, will it affect anything?

But if i were to swap out those hyperX ram, i may need to go for value ram due to the availability and price. by then i will aim to go for 6 x 4gb, making it 24gb. but, will value ram affect the OC?

Cost if stay at 12gb
ram cost for hyperX 2gb around 15~20sgd each (note easy to find)
ram cost for value ram 1333 2gb around 10~15sgd (market flooded with it, not easy to find kingston 1600)

Overall cost for 3 ram purchase > 20sgd x 3 = 60sgd

Cost if change to 24gb
ram cost for value ram 1333 4gb around 25~30sgd

Overall cost for 6 ram purchase > 20sgd x 3 = 180sgd

Reason for so much ram is to hope that this setup will last me a long run for the next few year. i am running video rendering for and playing diablo 3 at the same time. 24gb sounds juicy... but do i need so much ram? x.x