AMD Responds to NVIDIA's GPP: AIB Partners to Announce New Radeon-Exclusive Brands

[Space Lynx]

This ^^^.

Plus it always seems to be easier to rush in and defend the "little guy" or the "brave revolution RTG" against big bad green nVidia.

Quoting AdoredTV's latest video, around 18:00. AMD's fan base is some of the most toxic fan base in hardware forum.

enjoy your toothpaste and new motherboard each year, or if nothing else, being left in the dark on whether or not you will need a new motherboard next release. cause communication is so overrated between a company and its consumers...

 

[Imsochobo]

This ^^^.

Plus it always seems to be easier to rush in and defend the "little guy" or the "brave revolution RTG" against big bad green nVidia.

Quoting AdoredTV's latest video, around 18:00. AMD's fan base is some of the most toxic fan base in hardware forum.

Fanboys regardless of camp is just poison, I remember fermi days, was just as bad.

Anyways, Asus cannot brand gaming cards, regardless of brand name under Asus.
Arez is not Asus, Arez is on the side but being pretty much Asus.
Subsidiary kinda deal, Thus they comply with GPP.

 

[Xzibit]

This ^^^.

Plus it always seems to be easier to rush in and defend the "little guy" or the "brave revolution RTG" against big bad green nVidia.

Quoting AdoredTV's latest video, around 18:00. AMD's fan base is some of the most toxic fan base in hardware forum.

You do realize he goes on to say that AMD fanboys are so toxic to the point reviewers hate on AMD because of them. WTF!!! (Kind of funny though because he points to his own videos about Vega) Then continues to say AMDs relationship with tech press is bad due to them. Wait what ?

 

[Kinestron]

This ^^^.

Plus it always seems to be easier to rush in and defend the "little guy" or the "brave revolution RTG" against big bad green nVidia.

Quoting AdoredTV's latest video, around 18:00. AMD's fan base is some of the most toxic fan base in hardware forum.

I don't frequent Nvidia forums much so I can't really say what AMD fans are doing en masse. The little I checked some of them on reddit, I don't see a whole lot of AMD fans but I can definitely say I see Nvidia people in AMD article comment sections always bragging about your 1080s and 1080 TIs. I'm always left wondering if your product is so great then why on earth are you anywhere near an AMD story, let alone making derogatory comments, instead of enjoying your 100+ fps on Ultra settings???

1060, great card. 1070, great card. 1080, great card. Considering the first two in a laptop if AMD cannot release at least a 570 mobile part soon. As of now, I'm currently enjoying my RX 470 playing ESO. You, I'll be nice and not say what I think.

 

[Space Lynx]

You do realize he goes on to say that AMD fanboys are so toxic to the point reviewers hate on AMD because of them. WTF!!! (Kind of funny though because he points to his own videos about Vega) Then continues to say AMDs relationship with tech press is bad due to them. Wait what ?

I just don't understand the need to bully when you already have 80% market share, like you won... but still want to spit in your enemies face... just makes no sense to me.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

I just don't understand the need to bully when you already have 80% market share, like you won... but still want to spit in your enemies face... just makes no sense to me.

AMD isnt going anywhere, they are no 3dfx

 

[Xzibit]

A lot of fluff but doesn't really saying anything other than "We can't compete in these performance niches so we'll spout platitudes instead ." Since the subject came up, all I can remember is the commercial for Burger King with the old granny muttering "Where's the beef ?". When nVidia came out w/ PhysX, AMD could have a) produced a competing technology or b) licensed it. When nVidia came out w/ G-Sync, they could have a) produced a competing technology or b) licensed it ...instead they chose c) Create a name similar to G-Sync, only provide a part of the technology and sell the lesser featured package at reduced price. AMD could have included a hardware module in the Freesync monitors, but they chose not to ... some Freesync monitor manufacturers did include such a MBR module but they were not well recived because when the Freesync monitors were able to offer motion blur reduction buy adding the necessary hardware, they no longer had that big price advantage... and AMD never jumped on the MBR bandwagon cause they chose instead to sell on price.

nVidia has been taking more and more control from it's board partners legally, driver wise and physically with successive generations. Now it is willing to give 3rd party vendors a boost by partnering with them to create high performance model lines that customers are willing to pay for. We will write our drivers so as to allow higher clocks, if during the install it detects PCBs that meet certain criteria with regard to voltage control, cooling, etc.

And if they do so, all they are saying that if you are using what we give you to increase mindshare and generate high margins, you can't allow our competitor to take advantage of the branding ***we*** helped you build. This is business as usual in America ... newsflash .... America is a capitalist dog eat dog country... deal with it. If you own a pizza joint, Coca Cola will give you a refrigerator to hold its products... you want to put Pepsi in there, you violate the licensing agreement and we take back OUR fridge.

Where's the beef ? If Asus calls the nVidia line Strix and their Radeon line Arez, so what ? If AMD says that Asus can't not sell an AMD based card called Arez, would there be such a steenk ? Buger King can sell a 1/4 pound burger but thye can not call it "the quarter pounder" There is nothing anti-competitive; nothing more sinister limiting the use of the name then there is about not putting our competitor's products in the free fridge we gave you. In the end, all AMD is saying ... "well we gonna offer free fridges too"... and now when we buy pizza, we'll see two fridges ...one with AMD stuff inside and one with nVidia ... great EXACTLY what I wanted ... a way to read the logo on top of the fridge telling me this is where I can find an nVidia product inside and here's where I can find and AMD product inside. Nothing anti competitive, more like truth in advertising. The nVidia Strix products of recent generations are overclocking by 14 - 31%. The AMD cards are in single digits for the most part. The only thing AMD loses by the name limiting partnership agreement is that no one will be purchasing a product thinking that because their nVidia Strix OC's 25%, their AMD Strix is capable of doing the same.

I hope Intel soon does the same as I am frustrated by confused users sending me proposed 8700k builds with X370 MoBos cause they think X370 is a cheaper version of the Z370.

Nvidia didnt come out with PhysX. Its well known that they bought Ageia to acquire it. Ageia acquired NovodeX to get PhysX

NovodeX (NovodeX Physics) - physics engine, developed by company NovodeX AG (situated in Switzerland), spinoff from ETH Zürich.
NovodeX was choosen by Ageia as software platform to support their upcoming Ageia PhysX PPU card, and in 2004 NovodeX was aquired with all its software developments and personell.
Many NovodeX employees were working in Ageia for years, you can even find some of them (like Dr. Matthias Müller-Fischer, NovodeX AG co-founder, now - PhysX SDK research lead) in NVIDIA PhysX Development group.

Your refrigerator analogy is weird? Coke->Bottlers->Restaurant.
AMD isnt offering a refirgerator too. Asus is making them a brand in-order to comply with GPP.

Quarter Pounder is Trademarked by Mc Donalds 1973

 

[T4C Fantasy]

Nvidia didnt come out with PhysX. Its well known that they bought Ageia to acquire it. Ageia acquired NovodeX to get PhysX



Your refrigerator analogy is weird? Coke->Bottlers->Restaurant.
AMD isnt offering a refirgerator too. Asus is making them a brand in-order to comply with GPP.

Quarter Pounder is Trademarked by Mc Donalds 1973

man i love things that will kill me, when i go to mcdonalds or burger king i get a pounder or a quad whopper

 

[Xzibit]

man i love things that will kill me, when i go to mcdonalds or burger king i get a pounder or a quad whopper

I hear you and I remember try'n this thing a few years back

Double-Down from KFC

Half-way through I felt my arteries clog. Still didn't learn my lesson.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

I hear you and I remember try'n this thing a few years back

Double-Down from KFC

Half-way through I felt my arteries clog. Still didn't learn my lesson.

LOL

 

[moproblems99]

 

[btarunr]

For this GPP assholery alone, my next VGA purchase will be an AMD Radeon, no matter how bad its performance/Watt is.

 

[xkm1948]

For this GPP assholery alone, my next VGA purchase will be an AMD Radeon, no matter how bad its performance/Watt is.

Welp you have my ultimate respect then. You go man!

 

[Patriot]

For this GPP assholery alone, my next VGA purchase will be an AMD Radeon, no matter how bad its performance/Watt is.

Work in the server industry... Nvidia withholds the Tesla releases from the server vendors for 6mo+ while they sell to Amazon and Google cloud and their own DGX boxes. Used the server vendors to establish themselves and are now competing in a very very dirty manner. They just did it again with the new x16 nvlink box... and they keep asking us for help making their shit scale... fucking assholes the lot of them.

 

[Deleted member 172152]

Seems like 1180 is only 15-20% faster than 1080 ti, so AMD still has a chance of catching up, especially since it seems AMD might refresh vega with 12nm SEPARATING gaming and professional GPUs, which should help their gaming GPU performance in the long run.

For now, I'll just get an Asus vega 64 strix oc and sell it later to upgrade to 12nm (and make a nice profit while I'm at it because of taxes), which is at the very least a better deal for me than a 1080 with a g-sync monitor. I know Asus is part of General Poop Practices, but at least I'm not supporting Nvidia and one extra AMD card from Asus will be more noticeable for them then one less Asus card, so honestly there isn't much point buying a non-GPP manufacturer's cards unless they're cheaper.

Still, I should have some extra budget next year, so hypetrain for Navi it is!

 

[Xzibit]

GeForce Partner Program Helps Gamers Know What They’re Buying


The GeForce Partner Program is designed to ensure that gamers have full transparency into the GPU platform and software they’re being sold, and can confidently select products that carry the NVIDIA GeForce promise.

Before GPP

After GPP

And thus no one ever confused them from this moment forward. Unlike before.

 

[dj-electric]

For this GPP assholery alone, my next VGA purchase will be an AMD Radeon, no matter how bad its performance/Watt is.

*raises both eyebrows*

Go with your brain, not with your heart.

 

[Vayra86]

For this GPP assholery alone, my next VGA purchase will be an AMD Radeon, no matter how bad its performance/Watt is.

Pics or it didn't happen

 

[medi01]

Equally AMD don't want freedom of choice

How to express your hate towards an underdog: 101

 

[RH92]

*raises both eyebrows*

Go with your brain, not with your heart.

Yeah for this to happen a brain is needed to begin with .....

 

[medi01]

Yeah for this to happen a brain is needed to begin with .....

You mean a brain is needed to figure when to vote with your wallet? Figures...

 

[Readlight]

i feel like ps4 haw 24 fps next ryzen and 6 gen gpu will be exciting.

 

[RH92]

You mean a brain is needed to figure when to vote with your wallet? Figures...

No i mean a brean is needed to figure that smart peoples buy whatever fits their needs and budget not the brand ....

Vote with your wallet ? You need to know what you are voting for to begin with !

 

[bug]

It was expected AMD should react somehow. Yet of the things they could use, they went with "choice". In a two-players market

 

[Space Lynx]

Shouldn't Nvidia be worried if AMD dies though? If they become a true monopoly like Microsoft did, I believe Microsoft was hit hard in the late 90's by the USA government on fines for being a monopoly... can't remember exactly... but I do remember monopolies get punished hard... so it is in Nvidia's best interest AMD stay afloat...