Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

YautjaLord · Apr 19, 2018

My next purchase Johan45, see how this one will perform under my newly purchased EK-FB GA-AX370 monoblock. Won't happen before August 12, tho: Bloodstock Open Air 2018 is calling.

The monoblock:

Insane, isn't it?

Perfect weapon for my job.

Cheers.

Johan45 · Apr 21, 2018

Managed to squeeze 4000 memory out of this 2700X CL14

HTC · Apr 21, 2018

Johan45 said:
Managed to squeeze 4000 memory out of this 2700X CL14

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Congratz, dude: you're the 1st one i'm aware of that managed to get RAM @ 4000+ on Ryzen platform with "proper" timings.

VS ... say ... 3200, what performance boost from RAM only did you manage? Assuming ofc you tested the difference.

Johan45 · Apr 21, 2018

HTC said:
Congratz, dude: you're the 1st one i'm aware of that managed to get RAM @ 4000+ on Ryzen platform with "proper" timings.

VS ... say ... 3200, what performance boost from RAM only did you manage? Assuming ofc you tested the difference.

This is the same clock speed memory at 3733 to give you an idea. I haven't run any benches at 4.55 with 3200 ram just seemed counterproductive.

HTC · Apr 21, 2018

Johan45 said:
This is the same clock speed memory at 3733 to give you an idea. I haven't run any benches at 4.55 with 3200 ram just seemed counterproductive.

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The intent was to see how much performance uplift were to be gained by going 4000 VS 3200 on the RAM (without touching anything else): is the difference comparable to 3200 VS 2400? With the same difference between the 2 (RAM speed), is the performance uplift proportional?

I'm just curious!

the54thvoid · Apr 21, 2018

Guessing it's not worth upgrading to from a 1700X? Plus I will keep my current AM4 mobo.

HD64G · Apr 22, 2018

A very useful video for anyone already having a good X370 mobo and being tempted to change it for X470.

the54thvoid · Apr 22, 2018

Well, my mobo allows 3200Mhz memory at 14 timings. All core OC at 3.82Ghz. Without watching video (out at mo) I'm guessing I stay put.

HD64G · Apr 22, 2018

the54thvoid said:
Well, my mobo allows 3200Mhz memory at 14 timings. All core OC at 3.82Ghz. Without watching video (out at mo) I'm guessing I stay put.

Correct. Zen gen 2 (not the recently released Zen+) will be the one for you logically.

Johan45 · Apr 23, 2018

HTC said:
The intent was to see how much performance uplift were to be gained by going 4000 VS 3200 on the RAM (without touching anything else): is the difference comparable to 3200 VS 2400? With the same difference between the 2 (RAM speed), is the performance uplift proportional?

I'm just curious!

OK ran a 4.0 with 4000Mem for comparison

HTC · Apr 23, 2018

Johan45 said:
OK ran a 4.0 with 4000Mem for comparison
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So there's an increase of 1 point in CB R15 in single core, it seems. Unfortunately, you're covering the multi-score with the CPU-Z left screenie: what was the uplift VS 3200 MHz on the RAM?

In your opinion: is it worth it to get RAM to run @ high speeds on the platform (over 3600 MHz)?

EDIT

I'm an idiot: you're covering the result with the screenie but it still shows in the upper left quadrant ... DUH ...

22 points more with RAM @ 4 GHz VS @ 3.2 GHz: how much in clock speed is needed for that increase @ the same RAM speed?

Nuckles56 · Apr 23, 2018

Holy hell, it looks like you got a golden chip right there @Johan45, I'm very impressed and also jealous as hell

Johan45 · Apr 23, 2018

HTC said:
So there's an increase of 1 point in CB R15 in single core, it seems. Unfortunately, you're covering the multi-score with the CPU-Z left screenie: what was the uplift VS 3200 MHz on the RAM?

In your opinion: is it worth it to get RAM to run @ high speeds on the platform (over 3600 MHz)?

EDIT

I'm an idiot: you're covering the result with the screenie but it still shows in the upper left quadrant ... DUH ...

22 points more with RAM @ 4 GHz VS @ 3.2 GHz: how much in clock speed is needed for that increase @ the same RAM speed?

Roughly ~ 100 MHz would cover that ground maybe score a bit higher

R0H1T · Apr 23, 2018

Johan45 said:
Roughly ~ 100 MHz would cover that ground maybe score a bit higher

So were the tests run at fixed clocks with XFR2 disabled?

Johan45 · Apr 23, 2018

Yes they were both set to 4.0 GHz in BIOS, once you set a fixed clock XFR/CPB is automatically disabled

phanbuey · Apr 23, 2018

Johan45 said:
Managed to squeeze 4000 memory out of this 2700X CL14

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@Johan45 amazing scores man!

What do you run as 24/7 settings on it?

Johan45 · Apr 23, 2018

I haven't gotten that far but, I could likely run 4.2 with 3600 CL16 pretty easily I think. Not even sure I would set a static OC clok on the new chips. I think it would be more beneficial over all to use the PB Overdrive and run a higher boost all core up to 41-4200 and whatever the single will max out at.

Johan45 · Apr 25, 2018

Just a follow up on my previous comment. Spent a couple hours and got a decent 3600 stable ram speed out of it. This is with the G.Skill SniperX 3400 CL16 which was supplied with the kit. A quick check with Thaiphoon shows it as Samsung "B" which I had a feeling it was. I'm not saying this is 100% stable but it ran for 2 hours on AIDA Stability with only cache and memory selected which does a decent job of loading the DRAM. The RAM voltage is at 1.46V and SOC at 1.15V could probably lower the SOC, I just wanted a baseline for a decent 24/7 setting at 3600 MHz

YautjaLord · Apr 27, 2018

AvP 3/2010, Carmageddon: Max Damage, Serious Sam 3: BFE, DOOM 4/2016 & soon Serious Sam 4 - good gaming benchmarks to test Ryzen 7 1700X & 2700X for starters?

Will also include regular 3DMark, Unigine Heaven 4.0 & Valley 1.0 suites.

phanbuey · Apr 27, 2018

YautjaLord said:
AvP 3/2010, Carmageddon: Max Damage, Serious Sam 3: BFE, DOOM 4/2016 & soon Serious Sam 4 - good gaming benchmarks to test Ryzen 7 1700X & 2700X for starters? Will also include regular 3DMark, Unigine Heaven 4.0 & Valley 1.0 suites.

Fallout 4 is good too -- very heavy on cpu/memory.

YautjaLord · Apr 27, 2018

phanbuey said:
Fallout 4 is good too -- very heavy on cpu/memory.

That's the deal, never really was into all the series, will probably dig it (played & loved another post apocalyptic game S.T.A.L.K.E.R Shadow of Chernobyl), but i need to get motivated to play it,

plus i only have 55GB of free space left on my 850 Pro SSD, but thanx for suggestion. Will probably dig this game someday. Both as game & benchie.

GoldenX · Apr 28, 2018

Built a 2200g with an A320 for a client, motherboard is not on it's latest bios... Good thing I have a 1200.

Space Lynx · Apr 28, 2018

PerfectWave said:
vega and ryzen will do damn good cos of infinity fabric

I'm sure Intel is loading Jim Keller with loads of money right now since they just hired him back, Intel will find the performance of this infinity fabric through Jim Keller, and then throw 5x as much money at Jim Keller as AMD was able to do to beat it handily. Sadly, this is the way of capitalism, AMD is truly tiny in the size of 80% market share giants like Intel and Nvidia.

HD64G · Apr 28, 2018

lynx29 said:
I'm sure Intel is loading Jim Keller with loads of money right now since they just hired him back, Intel will find the performance of this infinity fabric through Jim Keller, and then throw 5x as much money at Jim Keller as AMD was able to do to beat it handily. Sadly, this is the way of capitalism, AMD is truly tiny in the size of 80% market share giants like Intel and Nvidia.

Until then, allow us "poor" customers to have a choice between Intel and AMD cpus. We have at least 3-4 years more until the possible new gen cpu core from Keller's design team arrive to the market. Till then, Zen core will most possibly keep things close to balance and Intel somewhat on their toes me thinks. Especially if the news about new delays for Intel's 10nm are true.

Space Lynx · Apr 28, 2018

HD64G said:
Until then, allow us "poor" customers to have a choice between Intel and AMD cpus. We have at least 3-4 years more until the possible new gen cpu core from Keller's design team arrive to the market. Till then, Zen core will most possibly keep things close to balance and Intel somewhat on their toes me thinks. Especially if the news about new delays for Intel's 10nm are true.

I was just stating the reason as to why Intel recently hired Jim Keller... but sure thing, infer I was referring to AMD as poor people. neat.

Side note: 8700k has been on sale multiple times on monoprice for $280 free ship no tax... so....

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Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

YautjaLord

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HTC

Johan45

HTC

the54thvoid

Intoxicated Moderator

HD64G

the54thvoid

Intoxicated Moderator

HD64G

Johan45

HTC

Nuckles56

Johan45

R0H1T

Johan45

phanbuey

Johan45

Johan45

YautjaLord

phanbuey

YautjaLord

GoldenX

Space Lynx

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HD64G

Space Lynx

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