Monitors won't go to sleep... Why?

[MrGenius]

Yeah...sorta kinda. But technically...no. It's called image persistence(which is not the same thing as burn-in). Plus you have to try real hard to make it happen. And it's usually not permanent. Not something I'd waste any of my time worrying about. But go right ahead and fret about it...if you must.

 

[Atomic77]

I was told that it is best to completely turn off a device or computer if your not going to be using it for a lengthy period of time but it’s ok to leave it on if your coming right back to it.

 

[Ruyki]

There's a command line tool that can turn off the monitor.
It's called nirmcd.

The command to turn the monitor off is:
nircmd.exe monitor off

The monitor will turn back on when there is mouse or keyboard input.

 

[trparky]

So I tried the "nircmd.exe monitor off" command it did indeed work so we know it can go to sleep but it's still not putting the monitors to sleep automatically as per the Power Profile Settings.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I was told that it is best to completely turn off a device or computer if your not going to be using it for a lengthy period of time but it’s ok to leave it on if your coming right back to it.

That's mostly lawyer talk so they don't get sued. You read the warnings for just about any device and it will say to unplug from the wall and/or remove batteries if not going to be used for extended periods. Remember, to completely turn off a computer, you have to unplug it from the wall, or flip the master power switch on back of the power supply (if yours has one). Otherwise, it is just in standby and not completely turned off. And unplugging from the wall or reaching around in back is not very practical, or convenient.

 

[Static~Charge]

Yeah...sorta kinda. But technically...no. It's called image persistence(which is not the same thing as burn-in). Plus you have to try real hard to make it happen. And it's usually not permanent. Not something I'd waste any of my time worrying about. But go right ahead and fret about it...if you must.

Is "Burn-In" Still an Issue on TVs and Monitors?

Burn-in is permanent damage to a screen caused by showing the same image for a long period of time. For example, if you have a TV on which you watch CNN 24 hours a day, you'll likely experience the burn-in of the CNN logo in the bottom right-hand corner. Even when you change the channel or turn off the TV, a faint outline of that logo will still be there because it's "burned in."

Burn-in is permanent, but it's often confused with "image persistence," which is a temporary version of the same thing.

At my office, we have a Sharp 32" LCD TV plugged in to a PC to display marketing PowerPoint slideshows. Some parts of the multiple slides display the same thing in the same location (like the company's name). Over time, the TV has developed a nasty case of screen burn-in. It took some effort to accomplish this, but there is nothing temporary about the ghost images.

 

[Ruyki]

So I tried the "nircmd.exe monitor off" command it did indeed work so we know it can go to sleep but it's still not putting the monitors to sleep automatically as per the Power Profile Settings.

It could be the mouse sending tiny movements to the computer even when it's not moving. Try unplugging it.

 

[trparky]

I tried turning the mouse off, that didn't do anything.

 

[Devastator0]

Hey mate, just wanted to drop my 0.02c into this post. I have run into the same issue and did quite a bit of investigating about this. Turns out that the problem **can** be caused by a bug that exists in nVidia's GeForce Experience software. More specifically the Shadowplay/Screen recording & overlay functionality. You could potentially try and disable that through the GeForce Experience software and see how it goes?

 

[Caring1]

Hey mate, just wanted to drop my 0.02c into this post. I have run into the same issue and did quite a bit of investigating about this. Turns out that the problem **can** be caused by a bug that exists in nVidia's GeForce Experience software. More specifically the Shadowplay/Screen recording & overlay functionality. You could potentially try and disable that through the GeForce Experience software and see how it goes?

A similar thing was mentioned in the Nvidia community pages, that GeForce experience can cause this issue.

 

[eidairaman1]

Hey mate, just wanted to drop my 0.02c into this post. I have run into the same issue and did quite a bit of investigating about this. Turns out that the problem **can** be caused by a bug that exists in nVidia's GeForce Experience software. More specifically the Shadowplay/Screen recording & overlay functionality. You could potentially try and disable that through the GeForce Experience software and see how it goes?

A similar thing was mentioned in the Nvidia community pages, that GeForce experience can cause this issue.

Got to learn something new today. Software is a pretty tricky thing to troubleshoot at times.

Is shadowplay a separate service?

 

[Devastator0]

Got to learn something new today. Software is a pretty tricky thing to troubleshoot at times.

Is shadowplay a separate service?

I *think* that you may just need to disable the overlay and that should be it. I also think that shadowplay *may* be tied to that but not 100% sure. It's very much so a kind of a hit and miss in trying to fix this particular issue lol

 

[eidairaman1]

I *think* that you may just need to disable the overlay and that should be it. I also think that shadowplay *may* be tied to that but not 100% sure. It's very much so a kind of a hit and miss in trying to fix this particular issue lol

Definitely would be good to try to disable the overlay and if that doesn't stop it disable the service if there is one. If it fixes it, id send a bug report in each month till they fix it.

 

[trparky]

So I uninstalled the nVidia Experience software and nope, the monitors would still not go to sleep. I then went to go watch my Monday night television shows and during the commercials I had an idea; the Gigabyte motherboard software.

I killed every process associated with the Gigabyte motherboard software and sure enough, the monitors went to sleep as they should. I then went into investigating what part of the software package was causing it and that's when I discovered that the Gigabyte motherboard LED software was always doing something, always had CPU usage. I killed just that process and sure enough the monitors went to sleep just as they should.

Whew. Now I have to decide if I should reinstall the nVidia Experience software or just leave it off the system.

 

[dorsetknob]

great that you have solved the problem
and thanks for letting us know the Root cause of that problem
so many people fail to report back with the problem cause

 

[Devastator0]

great that you have solved the problem
and thanks for letting us know the Root cause of that problem
so many people fail to report back with the problem cause

Ain't that the damn truth. I'm also glad that the OP got to the cause of the problem but yes, I mean me, I personally try and properly resolve any forum thread I start.

 

[trparky]

Does anyone know if there's a reason to have the nVidia Experience software installed? Should I even have it installed? Or is it just more bloatware that many of you guys remove?

 

[coonbro]

don't know if it was said yet or not , but check your displays manual or menu and see it that is a setting in it as well mine I can set in the display to sleep [+ amount of time to go in to sleep ] or never

'' Does anyone know if there's a reason to have the nVidia Experience software installed? Should I even have it installed? Or is it just more bloatware that many of you guys remove?''

I never use it anymore in a long time . all I install today is the cards driver under custom install [heck I don't even have PhysX installed ]

look it up and see all the complaints on it and what ever good

for me now that tops it off is a account and just another data collector in the end [??? ] thing is the card works as expected with out it anyway

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...use-geforce-experience-without-an-account-/1/

https://forums.evga.com/What-do-you-think-of-Geforce-Experience-m2153170-p2.aspx

its the drivers that run the card not the gimmickware . you use it all at your own enjoyment or risk .

in the end the less crap you have to deal with is the less crap you have to deal with . so I guess if you just installed the cards driver this issue may not of even popped up and you chasing your tail figuring it out here ..

it s all in your opinion on whats best for ''YOU '' in the end

good luck

 

[rtwjunkie]

At my office, we have a Sharp 32" LCD TV plugged in to a PC to display marketing PowerPoint slideshows. Some parts of the multiple slides display the same thing in the same location (like the company's name). Over time, the TV has developed a nasty case of screen burn-in. It took some effort to accomplish this, but there is nothing temporary about the ghost images.

There is. It can be gotten rid of on LCD’s. It may involve multiple runs of an all white screen for awhile, followed by being off for awhile (like unused for over a day and unpowered), then by hours of a full-screen screensaver with rotational objects.

It’s simply a matter of memory, that the LCD can unlearn. This is where they differ from CRT’s which had no ability to remove the image.

@trparky to answer your most recent question, no, there isn’t an actual reason to have GFE experience installed. However, if it is, Windows 10 will defer to it on driver updates for GPU. GFE you can tell “no” to, and you’ll not be forced to update GPU driver...it actually listens, unlike Windows.

 

[coonbro]

Samsung

'' Although much less susceptible than Plasma TVs, LED TVs are still subject to screen burn in (image retention). ... Avoid keeping a static picture or a picture with static elements (black bars, black borders, logos, etc.) on your LED TV for more than two hours at a time. ''

may try any fix tips if your seeing it

https://lifehacker.com/5982108/is-burn-in-still-an-issue-on-tvs-and-monitors

 

[FireFox]

Honestly, this shouldn’t be a real problem. I had the major parts of my previous system for 6 years, started and shut down every day.

In fact what he said is hilarious i tried not to laugh but i couldn't resist, however, Jokes aside, sometimes I do turn on and off my Machine several times a day.

 

[dorsetknob]

OP has sorted his Original Problem
Now People are Drifting off subject

I can't help but to think is not good for the LCD screen itself.

He never said there was a problem only a concern

 

[neatfeatguy]

Does anyone know if there's a reason to have the nVidia Experience software installed? Should I even have it installed? Or is it just more bloatware that many of you guys remove?

I found it a waste of space. Last time I had it installed (probably 12+ months back) it had issues of some sort that just irritated me and for the life of me I can't remember what it was now. To me, it's just unnecessary software that I never made use of anyway, so why even have it installed? If you don't make use of any part of it, don't install it.

 

[coonbro]

In fact what he said is hilarious i tried not to laugh but i couldn't resist, however, Jokes aside, sometimes I do turn on and off my Machine several times a day.

me too.

seems like if I leave it unattended for more then a bathroom break or get a drink thats when something goes wrong and I was not sitting there to see what went wrong . like left it on over night and wake it up to a blue screen or boot looping . one thing else I don't do is leave the internet on unlees its in use by me . don't need any of them under the nose downloads or something behind my back kinda things [ not disconnected but OFF some times unplugged ]

my oldest rig here is from 2000 and turning them off through out the day as needed has yet to affect anything that I can see .

 

[Aztec]

I just solved my problem with my monitor not going to sleep. firstly i would recommend doing ALL the other checks that r recommended here,ie making sure that the power option is not set 2 NEVER , ect,ect.
so this what i did #1 i set the power option to 1min. ( the min.) so as i checked dif things i didnt have 2 wait a long time(i also used a stopwatch)
#2 i unplugged diff peripherals ,1 @a time, waited the 1 min 2 see if my monitor would go 2 sleep . I use a controller 4 some of my games, so when i unplugged the controller my monitor went 2 sleep after 1 min.
I know that most of u dont use a controller but its the testing the diff peripherals that might solve your problem .The use of a controller had also caused a problem with my Steam launch, causing it to take up to 2.5 min to launch.I dont know what the controller had to do with the monitor not going 2 sleep but its now been 3 days with no problems.
I hope this helps some of u with this issue.
Aztec.