i7-8086K

[Vario]

360€ is nothing, at least for me, i am waiting till Tuesday because i have a friend of mine who works at a PC shop and he told me that maybe he could get it a few € cheaper, about voltages and how well it overclock i am curious too.

Let us know for sure! I hope you get a good sample too.

 

[FireFox]

Let us know for sure! I hope you get a good sample too.

My main concern is voltage.

 

[biffzinker]

I want to see you buy this because I am curious about how well it overclocks and what volts it runs at compared to the 8700K. My hunch is the same as 8700K, but I'd like to know either way, just because I am sure most people will not buy it due to the price.

Your in luck, The Tech Report did a unboxing, and overclocking via live stream earlier today.
https://techreport.com/news/33784/join-us-live-at-noon-et-as-we-unbox-and-test-the-core-i7-8086k

 

[FireFox]

I will watch it later when i arrive home, thanks for the link.

 

[las]

And 4.4GHz it is not enough for Gaming? however there is always the overclock option

We're not talking about what's "enough". 6C/12T at 5 GHz will beat 8C/16T at 4.6. Games are not heavily multithreaded and prefers higher clocks.
The OC headroom is going to be bigger on 6C version.
And you're going to pay more for a 8C version - Money that would be better spent on faster GPU or better RAM (high speed/low latency).

Personally not interested in neither tho. Waiting for Cannon Lake in early 2019 instead; New uArch (way bigger jump in performance compared to the last 3 gens), 10nm, spectre and meltdown fixes in hardware (instead of software fixes that lowers performance), new chipsets, PCI-E 4.0 or 5.0 and maybe even DDR5 support. Adding a GTX 1180/2080 to the mix too. 7nm + GDDR6. Gladly waiting for all this.

Coffee Lake is simply just Skylake uArch with more cores. 2015 tech... Booooooring.
Z170, Z270 and Z370 are also identical.
Intel milked hard since Skylake. Good for AMD tho, they have gained alot of CPU marketshare lately.

 

[Vya Domus]

Games are not heavily multithreaded

Yes they are , wish we would be done with this myth already.

 

[dj-electric]

AC:O is not "games".
This is a case-by-case situation. There will be 4C CPUs ahead of 8C ones in certain games.

 

[Vya Domus]

There will be 4C CPUs ahead of 8C ones in certain games.

Have I mentioned anything about that ? I only claimed the statement "games aren't heavily multithreaded" to be false.

 

[Vayra86]

Yes they are , wish we would be done with this myth already.

I know, Denuvo takes a LOT of threads like that Deus Ex, similarly puts 100% load on all cores you throw at it. Does not translate to a single FPS - you're still GPU limited for 90-95% of all gameplay.

Should that be any basis for a conclusion that 'you need 8 cores?' (which is what fired this multi core debate) NO. Note the similarities beyond 4c/8t CPUs. There is barely any performance to be had. All you do is remove the bottleneck for Denuvo to keep calling home.

 

[Vya Domus]

I know, Denuvo takes a LOT of threads like that. Deus Ex, similarly puts 100% load on all cores you throw at it. Does not translate to a single FPS.

You know I was always curios if Denuvo really does fuck things up to that degree. Unsurprisingly given the nature of something like that I cannot find any benchmarks from any reputable sites.

I do find , however , videos such as this along side many claims from people that it actually made no difference whatsoever.

http://www.game-debate.com/news/245...ows-no-performance-gains-over-legitimate-copy

Should that be any basis for a conclusion that 'you need 8 cores?' NO. Note the similarities beyond 4c/8t CPUs.

No , but it's enough to brake the myth that games don't use many cores. Which was ll that I had to say from the beginning.

 

[Vayra86]

No , but it's enough to brake the myth that games don't use many cores.

That myth stems from pre-PS4, get with the times Quad core + HT/SMT is still optimal though, 6 core is bonus. 8 core has no purpose.

I was going to look up the reddit post about Denuvo killing ingame performance, but its somewhere up here on TPU already and I cant find it. Both games (Deus Ex as well) do suffer from a repeated stutter every once in a while on 4c8t CPUs.

 

[Ruru]

Probaby generally unoverclockable without delidding like all the i7 115x chips since Ivy Bridge.

 

[las]

Yes they are , wish we would be done with this myth already.

No they are not. AC Origins is one of the ONLY games that are decently multi threaded. Yet 4C/8T still performs great, especially when those 4C are ran at high clocks (which they are not in that test).

They are using a 1700X/6850K for this. My old 6700K @ 5 GHz would beat both those CPU's in this game. They simply disable cores, which means their 4C/8T test score are ran with low clocks compared to how fast clocks mainstream 4C/8T usually run at, especially when OC'ed.
4 GHz is low.

 

[Vya Domus]

No they are not.

You may deny it as much as you want , games have been well threaded for years now. That doesn't mean they scale perfectly nor is it all that matters but it's the truth nonetheless. Anyway I went off topic for long enough.

 

[las]

You may deny it as much as you want , games have been well threaded for years now. That doesn't mean they scale perfectly nor is it all that matters but it's the truth nonetheless. Anyway I went off topic for long enough.

A newer Intel 4C/8T at ~5 GHz (with RING BUS instead of MESH) would beat those low clocked 6C/8C CPU's in AC Origins anyway.

The 4C/8T result is performed with low clocks. Still it's almost the same as the 6C/12T result...

More cores is good, as long as these cores are not gimped by low clocks.
4C/8T is still enough for gaming. It's a fact.

 

[Vario]

I will watch it later when i arrive home, thanks for the link.

https://www.techradar.com/news/inte...-its-overclocking-potential-as-it-hits-724ghz

Der8auer shows the process in a YouTube video (below) where he explained that he more or less used the same presets as when previously overclocking Intel’s 8700K, and that the new 8086K anniversary chip is essentially a “good pretest 8700K”.

 

[cameronh779]

Never even heard of this chip. Certainly an odd processor name.

 

[FireFox]

Your in luck, The Tech Report did a unboxing, and overclocking via live stream earlier today.
https://techreport.com/news/33784/join-us-live-at-noon-et-as-we-unbox-and-test-the-core-i7-8086k

I started watching the video and when a saw a few BSOD i stopped, i rather test it when i get it.

6C/12T at 5 GHz will beat 8C/16T at 4.6.

Agree with you but we don't have any numbers yet, right now we are just guessing.

https://www.techradar.com/news/inte...-its-overclocking-potential-as-it-hits-724ghz

I dont watch those videos where Der8auer does Extreme overclocking because those are overclock that wont be used for 24/7

 

[therealmeep]

One on order, went to mc today and saw them, didn't buy one because mine has shipped, will report when it comes in.

 

[biffzinker]

Wait for the i9-8088K anniversary instead?

PC Perspective has their 8086K in for review. Overclocking isn't any better than what The Tech Report managed.

Also the CPU doesn't want to Turbo up too 5.0 GHz even with a single core load, and the same issue with a second 8086K.

Much to my surprise, even on purely single-threaded workload, such as Cinebench R15 in Single mode, the processor wasn’t getting close to its 5.0GHz Single Core Turbo Boost frequency, in fact, I never saw it get above 4.5GHz. We corroborated these issues with another piece of CPU monitoring software, HWInfo64.

As you can see in the screenshot from XTU, the processor was sitting at a cool 48C while this was going on, and no other alerts such as the motherboard power delivery or current limit throttling were an issue during our testing.

Moving to another motherboard, the ASUS Strix Z370-H Gaming, again on the latest UEFI release, we saw the same behavior.

So far, we have been unable to get this processor to operate at the advertised 5.0GHz Turbo Boost frequency, on a multitude of different hardware and software setups.

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Our-Core-i7-8086K-Experiences-Problematic-Best

 

[Hood]

I can understand keeping it as some sort of a collectible item

Is that even a thing? Do people collect CPUs for historical value, and are rare ones worth a lot? Or is it more like a keepsake, sentimental value only? I see you can buy an original 8086 for $10 on ebay, so even chips from the 70s and 80s aren't very rare.

 

[therealmeep]

8086k is in!
Benchmark results/pics in a bit (at stock)
Specs:
i7 8086k
Corsair h115i
Maximus X Hero
32 GB Ballistix sport 2400
Gtx 1080
Samsung 960 Evo 500GB
CPU-Z validation:
valid.x86.fr/900v8v
Comparison: 6800k@4.4GHz
valid.x86.fr/a1cnqh
Edit:
Score for 5GHz all core
valid.x86.fr/ksayi6

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'd expect sub 4 GHz base, 4.2-4.4 boost all cores

Stop being a troll.

 

[natr0n]

Entered an Intel contest with a high probability I will win this chip.

 

[therealmeep]

Decent chip, yet to really push it all I've done is up the core turbo from 1 core to all core 5ghz. Chip hits about 80c under 280mm rad. Would probably be a star with a delid as it's pretty snappy with the uncork (all core turbo instead of single)