AdoredTV at it again - Over an hour long video about Nvidia's business practices.

[GlacierNine]

It's not quite, in my opinion, as clearcut and simply damning, as his companion video about Intel. A lot of what he talks about, well, he has the evidence for it, but from the tech press, devs, etc, whereas in the Intel video he often relied on actual court transcripts and documents released during lawsuits that Intel ultimately lost.

In any case, there's definitely a lot of truth in what he's talking about here and it's well worth watching.

 

[looniam]

hard pass.

i've seen enough of his tabloid trash editorials with cherry picked facts presented for fuel for the hate train. i'd rather clamp down a vice on my penis than watch his vids anymore.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Adoretv ranting about nvidia and intel is not news. It's not worth 10 minutes of my time, let alone an hour. Funny he mentions mx150 having two variants, but forgets rx 560.
Again,this guy is to Amd's Alex Jones. He has a very specific audience he targets at, and it pays off.

7 mins watched and the guy's both accurate and telling it how it is , exactly why I have boycoted Nvidia from my pick list for the last 5 year's, and it should have been sooner but i loved my herculese prophet 2 Gts and it blinded me to their Bs, watch and learn about the real Nvidia because im sorry if it hurts's but that's life and this is how business works or do you think it's all about innovation , daring doo and business guile.

If Nvidia were your mate , he'd be the one who turned up drunk , slept on your couch after a three hour pissed chat you didnt need at 1Am ,nicked your stone rose's or rolling stones cds then got cosy with your wife in the morning while you were in the shower before buggering up the toilet plumbing and suing you for straining his nut sack. Imho. was a jk

 

[Vya Domus]

Oh boy did this turn instantly in a fanboy shit show. Good job everyone , the clock is ticking on this thread.

As pointed out above , the guy tells the truth and gives his own opinion on the matter. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[GlacierNine]

It really is remarkable how often people reach for the "But, <competitor> did x too!" card in relation to stuff like this.

Sure they did. But the video isn't a retrospective of the graphics card industry's history of litigation and business practices. Its a history of the litigation and business practices of a single company within that industry, just like the Intel video was the same thing for that company, not an attempt to articulate a complete history of the CPU industry.

If you want to try and take on the task of producing any such retrospective of your own in this much depth then by all means I'd love to see it. But in this instance, saying "but what about what the competitor did" is a bit like the defendant in a murder trial trying to get off the hook by pointing out the victim was also a murder suspect. That may well be, but its not the crime on trial.

 

[jboydgolfer]

still love my 980, 970, 750ti, etc . Frankly, as it stands now, i dont care how the cow is killed, as long as i get my steak.

srsly tho, I cant get into stuff like this, mainly due to bias's pushed by presenters. For that reason i avoid most OpEd stories, etc (not something about this particular topic, just in general), i find it angers me often.

 

[Easy Rhino]

It's not quite, in my opinion, as clearcut and simply damning, as his companion video about Intel. A lot of what he talks about, well, he has the evidence for it, but from the tech press, devs, etc, whereas in the Intel video he often relied on actual court transcripts and documents released during lawsuits that Intel ultimately lost.

In any case, there's definitely a lot of truth in what he's talking about here and it's well worth watching.

Somebody actually spent time on this? It has zero impact. SAD!

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

he needs to do one on Amd and IBM too , both for even ness and they too would be interesting i watched it all , bit of bias since a film/rant about one company is going to be,but having lived through seen and messed with most of the things mentioned and even read those same forums at the time they happened its right.
easily pause readable on any written part , i did they are as factual as any need be including any litigation and the anti-tec slur, they just are ,Ifit suits their business, I do get that.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I endorse what jboydgolfer said 100%. I've had nvidia cards since maxwell and g-sync (was an amd supporter before), and they're killing it since then. Anti-consumer ? I am a consumer. If I choose to wait a year for V64 just to get 1080 perfromance at 1080 SLI power draw and more expensive, I am choosing the most anti-consumer thing I could do to myself. AMD plays the "nvidia came and did things to our fanny " card more than anything else, and that's why guys like adoredtv thrive. They've had cpu overhead issues on dx11 games, instead of fixing it they blamed gameworks. That was the last straw that made me switch teams. I ain't buying cards from crybabies. Nvidia has a problem - they fix it. AMD will whine and do nothing.
Adored's goal is obvious here: AMD have no cards to compete with geforce.... so what about that time when nvidia wanted async removed from aots.... do you think it morally right to buy their product now ?

 

[xkm1948]

I am tired of spending same amount of money for inferior product. No matter how much someone may hate Nvidia, their tech is top notch.

Don’t blame your own failure on others success. Survival of the fittest. You got good tech you got good lawyers you profit, simple capitalism.

 

[cucker tarlson]

They've got 7nm ready, they could release something to outperform 1080Ti. I bet they're gonna focus on consoles and workstation though and leave their V64 limping behind Pascal, release the 7nm gaming GPUs in 2019 long after the green team roll out 11- series, then call nvidia anti-progress and anti-consumer.

It's not that I respect adored from the professional standpoint. I think he's very incisive and meticuouls. It's just the fact he's full of s**t that puts me off.

 

[xkm1948]

They've got 7nm ready, they could release something to outperform 1080Ti. I bet they're gonna focus on consoles and workstation though and leave their V64 limping behind Pascal, release the 7nm gaming GPUs in 2019 long after the green team roll out 11- series, then call nvidia anti-progress and anti-consumer.

GCN is way too old. Neither good for gaming nor good for GPU accelerated computing (99% researchers use CUDA). RTG need a completely new GPU design overhaul and that takes time. David Wang just took over. At least those “hype train” during Raja’s reign is now gone. I hope that means they actually are working on solid tech instead of “poor volta” or “make some noise” cringe marketing.


Personally i have supported ATi/AMD/RTG far too long. Buying exclusively team red GPU since R300 days. I will be going green for the up coming 1180 series.

 

[cucker tarlson]

It's not that I respect adored from the professional standpoint. I

What they've got to do is make their got damn tile based rendering working like they promised with Vega and never did. They're gonna keep getting their ass handed to them in the enthusiast semgent as long as nvidia has an advantage here.

 

[kruk]

If anyone wonders why I dislike nVidia: this video lists all the reasons. They were shady ~20 years ago and nothing seems to have changed since then.

And the worst part of all: instead of people forcing them to change and score a huge win for all consumers, they defend everything they do, blame the competition and so on ...

 

[cucker tarlson]

If anyone wonders why I dislike nVidia: this video lists all the reasons. They were shady ~20 years ago and nothing seems to have changed since then.

And the worst part of all: instead of people forcing them to change and score a huge win for all consumers, they defend everything they do, blame the competition and so on ...

How is me buying a vega instead of 1080/1080Ti a win for anyone else than AMD who manages to sell an inferior product for the same price as the competition. You people have lost your minds.

 

[kruk]

How is me buying a vega instead of 1080/1080Ti a win for anyone else than AMD who manages to sell an inferior product for the same price as the competition. You people have lost your minds.

You know why AMD couldn't deliver the best products in recent times? Because they have been struggling with acquiring enough R&D money. And talking sh*t about their products, blaming them for anything nVidia does wrong, and so on, certainly won't help them becoming competitive on the high end again.

Buy the card that best suits you, I don't care, but don't spread misinformation*. Change the mindshare (AMD sucks*) and in long term everyone wins, it's really simple.

* this is not directed at you specifically, but spoken generally ...

 

[dorsetknob]

Buy the card that best suits you, it's really simple.

THIS ^^^^ And from what is available in your price Range

 

[cucker tarlson]

You know why AMD couldn't deliver the best products in recent times? Because they have been struggling with acquiring enough R&D money. And talking sh*t about their products, blaming them for anything nVidia does wrong, and so on, certainly won't help them becoming competitive on the high end again.

Buy the card that best suits you, I don't care, but don't spread misinformation*. Change the mindshare (AMD sucks*) and in long term everyone wins, it's really simple.

* this is not directed at you specifically, but spoken generally ...

Calm the hell down. I get what you're saying. I just don't believe in it. Not in the slightest. They forged their own fate. They're a CPU maker that bought a GPU company,which was doing great without them, and thought they could control everything, including consoles. They're reaping what they sowed.
Nvidia is the company whose clear scope is on PC gaming, that's why I'm supporting them. AMD better decide who they cater for, cause I doubt it's enthusiast pc gamers anymore. When they get back on the right track I'll support them again.


"Buy the card that best suits you " after a tirade about how I'm wrong about choosing nvidia is borderline split personality stuff.

 

[Xzibit]

GCN is way too old. Neither good for gaming nor good for GPU accelerated computing (99% researchers use CUDA). RTG need a completely new GPU design overhaul and that takes time. David Wang just took over. At least those “hype train” during Raja’s reign is now gone. I hope that means they actually are working on solid tech instead of “poor volta” or “make some noise” cringe marketing.

PCWorld: AMD's new graphics engineer pledges yearly GPU releases to make PCs fun again

 

[cucker tarlson]

“maybe incremental architecture changes.”

 

[eidairaman1]

THIS ^^^^ And from what is available in your price Range

Yup many forget that when the Life Force Leaves the body you can't take anything from this realm with you. So Elitist thinking is pretty pointless since we are here for a pretty short time anyway.

 

[cucker tarlson]

we are here for a pretty short time anyway.

So what's the point of a boring life then .....

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I considered NVIDIA shady since they created closed-source CUDA and bought out Aegia.

 

[eidairaman1]

I considered NVIDIA shady since they created closed-source CUDA and bought out Aegia.

Sli, forcing card makers into gpp which didnt bode well for them either.

 

[cucker tarlson]

BTW OT (or maybe a little bit on topic tho) : I heard rumours from several sources that nvidia is bringing back "hot clock" this gen.