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As promised here's a slightly better picture, and now including the complete (working) collection:

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I have a few duplicates of the 3500 that I didn't include as they're all in various states of disrepair. The VooDoo 4 4500 PCI is going into the Pentium Pro PC for certain, and the STB VooDoo 2 12MB SLI pair are going into the IBM Aptiva. The rest will reside dormant for awhile, though I've got plans to get some stands so they can have a shelf in the display case.
 

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@phill l I used 4CoreDual-SATA2 R2.0 for my AGP testing (because QX9770 support) : LINK.
Some say 775i65G/Conroe865PE are better because Intel vs. VIA chipset, I say - I like my 45nm Quad Core more than a bit better chipset ;)
I do however own ALiveDual-eSATA2 (with Phenom II 965 x4 BE), so... not sure which combo I would use if I did AGP testing again.

I remember having one of the 4CoreDual-SATA2 boards, wasn't the best thing in the world and definitely needed a bit of a hand to get the best from it.. A few hardware mods for sure as everything was so locked down in the bios.. Not much you could do with any of it.. But didn't have it long.. Shame really, should have just kept it for memories really..

But I have a feeling that this following pic might put me in good books of the legendary @Robert B I think...

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Time for bed I think but I hope that's a pleasing pic !! :)

Yes sir thinking about selling it all

You might regret that if your like most of us here!! I sell things and then wish I sure hadn't later on... :(
 
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@phill I always wanted to find one of these & kept drooling over pictures & literature :D For a while, I was even willing to invest serious money into buying V5 5500 but then I thought abut it & realized it's probably not worth it...

Glide was totally awesome for its time & age, and it made games look absolutely amazing. Unfortunately, as Direct 3D, DirectX took over the market, Glide lost its advantage so to speak, therefore running powerful "Voodoo" card seems kinda pointless, at least in my personal opinion. In other words, Voodoo is a perfect & natural choice for all the games up to early 2000s, but as of that moment, games were better with Direct3D hardware, mainly nVidias & ATIs. And let's face it, Voodoo2 in SLI and/or especially Voodoo3 (even the basic "2000" model) had more than enough power to handle just about any game up to this point!
 
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@phill - You're doing well my apprentice, you're doing well!:D:) It's great to see the V4 4500 up and working - It makes me remember my V4-L. In my case it wasnt a smooth ride. NOOO SIIIRRR!!!

I've started cleaning the CPU cooler I got Saturday. Needless to say that now I have to keep the damn thing in a bag as it attracts fingerprints like a magnet. Sheeeshhh.

The Annihilator 2 almost got annihilated by dust. I sure hope it is still alive. (GF2 GTS - GB0010)

I found a CPU for my GA-8TM.
 

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Eh....talk is cheap.
Never know though.


Here's the claim now:

"Rob XXX: Yes. 4800. I DO have 4500s as well though. I also have two experimental prototype boards from Kyro development somewhere. But like most stuff I have it’s buried in piles of stuff. One of these days I’ll show you a pic of storerooms and you’ll see what real hoarding is :')"
 

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@phill - You're doing well my apprentice, you're doing well!:D:) It's great to see the V4 4500 up and working - It makes me remember my V4-L. In my case it wasnt a smooth ride. NOOO SIIIRRR!!!

I've started cleaning the CPU cooler I got Saturday. Needless to say that now I have to keep the damn thing in a bag as it attracts fingerprints like a magnet. Sheeeshhh.

The Annihilator 2 almost got annihilated by dust. I sure hope it is still alive. (GF2 GTS - GB0010)

I found a CPU for my GA-8TM.

Well I've not cleaned it yet and I think the fan might have a little issue, but I'm just glad it works!! I'll see what I can do for cleaning it over the next few days :)

@phill I always wanted to find one of these & kept drooling over pictures & literature :D For a while, I was even willing to invest serious money into buying V5 5500 but then I thought abut it & realized it's probably not worth it...

Glide was totally awesome for its time & age, and it made games look absolutely amazing. Unfortunately, as Direct 3D, DirectX took over the market, Glide lost its advantage so to speak, therefore running powerful "Voodoo" card seems kinda pointless, at least in my personal opinion. In other words, Voodoo is a perfect & natural choice for all the games up to early 2000s, but as of that moment, games were better with Direct3D hardware, mainly nVidias & ATIs. And let's face it, Voodoo2 in SLI and/or especially Voodoo3 (even the basic "2000" model) had more than enough power to handle just about any game up to this point!

Well looking at some of the prices for Voodoo cards, they have gone utterly bonkers!! I found a few on Ebay...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Dfx-Voo...m=332545365703&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-...693147?hash=item2aacdb819b:g:XokAAOSwYtla0l9o

Bloody crazy money!! There was a 5500 going for about £100 ($135 I think it was) but that got sold within not very long at all.. Gutting really as I was just telling a friend about it!!
 
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Well I've not cleaned it yet and I think the fan might have a little issue, but I'm just glad it works!! I'll see what I can do for cleaning it over the next few days :)



Well looking at some of the prices for Voodoo cards, they have gone utterly bonkers!! I found a few on Ebay...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Dfx-Voodoo-4-4500-32Mb-PCI-WITH-BOX/332545365703?_trkparms=aid=888007&algo=DISC.MBE&ao=1&asc=49131&meid=3dc837249da642f48923fdde50efdc85&pid=100009&rk=1&rkt=1&sd=183288693147&itm=332545365703&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-...693147?hash=item2aacdb819b:g:XokAAOSwYtla0l9o

Bloody crazy money!! There was a 5500 going for about £100 ($135 I think it was) but that got sold within not very long at all.. Gutting really as I was just telling a friend about it!!
Actually I was just talking about this phenomenon, couple of days on other forum & it wasn't about 3dfx, I was talking about the company Shure which (as of recently) decided to pull the plug on phono cartridge (and styli) production, causing the prices to skyrocket! Leaving people buying (and selling) cartridges & styli for two, three times the price of what they USED to cost, only couple of months ago.

Bottom line - it's all about supply & demand. I remember the times when I could pick Voodoo2 & Voodoo3 cards for nothing, I even had forumers giving them away to me, for absolutely nothing. And yet, now we are facing completely opposite situation, where 3dfx hardware is being sold for absurd prices! But regardless of how much, they eventually DO get sold, because there's always someone out there who wants one! So you either need to have your pockets full of cash OR get extremely lucky (and act fast), to bid on one of those once-in-a-lifetime deals where you get 3dfx stuff for next to nothing ;)
 

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Just like with everything now I think @Trekkie4, make someone want something enough it quickly becomes very expensive and valuable.. Some of my Mega Drives games I have are over the £100 mark each.. When they were new they weren't new for that money.. Isn't it funny how things we sell and then wish we hadn't, looking back, I wish I'd kept pretty much everything I've ever bought... That said, were the heck would I have put it all??..... The mind boggles....
 
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Just like with everything now I think @Trekkie4, make someone want something enough it quickly becomes very expensive and valuable.. Some of my Mega Drives games I have are over the £100 mark each.. When they were new they weren't new for that money.. Isn't it funny how things we sell and then wish we hadn't, looking back, I wish I'd kept pretty much everything I've ever bought... That said, were the heck would I have put it all??..... The mind boggles....
Oh, I know! As I already pointed out (several posts earlier), I wish I hadn't sold my S423 Pentium 4 rig, with Asus P4T mobo & Rambus memory... :( The same goes for the first video card which I bought (and replaced) on my own, Abit Siluro (nVidia) FX5600, or even my own Diamond Monster 3DII, 12mb Voodoo2 card from back in a day. Fortunately, I'm lucky enough to still have the original Pentium II machine from back in a day, including the original sound card & Quantum Fireball hard drive, but the Voodoo2 & ATI Rage IIc AGP card had been replaced, to match the lost original(s) :(

I also did the same, stupid mistake with HiFi... Used to have the legendary Shure M91 cartridge & brand new, never used stylus, removed from dad's turntable & kept it inside my desk drawer for years. Before one day (around 2010, 2011) I decided to sell it, thinking I won't be using it any longer *sigh*
 

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Ain't hind sight a bitch?? :( :laugh: :toast:
 
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This is not (yet) retro... but still nice HW to have. :)

I was lucky to get the boards cheap as not tested... luckily, both are working perfectly. :D

Tyan S7002 - entry level dual S1366 board, but supports both Nehalem and Westmere, including 6-cores. Also using regular ATX PSU and GPU compatible pci-e slot (no need for risers).
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Supermicro X9DRL-iF - this one is dual S2011, so support for SB-E and IB-E.
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I have the boards for some time now, so it is time to get some decent CPUs too. For now just a pair of Nehalem and Westmere Xeons. Later I'll buy SB-E E5-2670 to have a pair of them (at the moment I own only one piece). At some point both platforms will take part in my tests, should be interesting fight vs socket G34 Opterons.

Xeon X5560 (4C/8T, 8MB L3, 3,06 GHz all-core turbo)
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Xeon X5660 (6C/12T, 12MB L3, 3,06 GHz all-core turbo)
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I recently got back into retro stuff.

Here's the latest machine I built. Paid 130RON ($32.59) w/ shipping. Came with a K6-2 500AFR, a stick of 128MB RAM, and a cooler that surprisingly hasn't seized yet.

Now, onto full specifications:
400W Torrent Computers LC-B400ATX (recapped and w/ 30A rectifier on 5v)
Lucky Star 5MVP3 Rev2.1
AMD K6-2 500AFR
3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 16MB AGP2x
128MB PC133 SDRAM
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MSI D-Bracket (for USB ports, as I don't have a PS/2 port on this nor a PS/2 mouse or adapter)
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and Windows 98 SE, of course!

Now I can't decide whether I should buy a Pentium II (from the same seller) or buy a Medion 19" CRT (yes, I found one and it looks BEAUTIFUL). On one side I'd buy the P2 and do another build but the other side of me would get the Medion, although I ALREADY own a Phillips 107P4 CRT.

Pics:

Mobo
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Put together in a case :)
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The front
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*ribbit*
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I recently got back into retro stuff.

Here's the latest machine I built. Paid 130RON ($32.59) w/ shipping. Came with a K6-2 500AFR, a stick of 128MB RAM, and a cooler that surprisingly hasn't seized yet.

Now, onto full specifications:
400W Torrent Computers LC-B400ATX (recapped and w/ 30A rectifier on 5v)
Lucky Star 5MVP3 Rev2.1
AMD K6-2 500AFR
3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 16MB AGP2x
128MB PC133 SDRAM
Hitachi-LG GSA-4167B DVD-RW
Realtek RTL8139C+ NIC
MSI D-Bracket (for USB ports, as I don't have a PS/2 port on this nor a PS/2 mouse or adapter)
Creative SoundBlaster 16 Value ISA CT2770
and Windows 98 SE, of course!

Now I can't decide whether I should buy a Pentium II (from the same seller) or buy a Medion 19" CRT (yes, I found one and it looks BEAUTIFUL). On one side I'd buy the P2 and do another build but the other side of me would get the Medion, although I ALREADY own a Phillips 107P4 CRT.

Pics:

Mobo
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GPU BIOS:
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MB BIOS:
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Put together in a case :)
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The front
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I say go for Pentium 2! What can I say, I'm more than attached to those things (especially 350MHz model, Deschutes core), since I owned one right from the very beginning ... not to mention 4 or 5 other systems featuring the same CPU ;)

Thing is, you will always come across CRT monitors IMO, as they're not really that rare (yet), and you can get them for next to nothing. Where on the other hand, PII is slowly becoming harder & harder to find nowdays & it holds a vintage (retro) value.
 
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I say go for Pentium 2! What can I say, I'm more than attached to those things (especially 350MHz model, Deschutes core), since I owned one right from the very beginning ... not to mention 4 or 5 other systems featuring the same CPU ;)

Thing is, you will always come across CRT monitors IMO, as they're not really that rare (yet), and you can get them for next to nothing. Where on the other hand, PII is slowly becoming harder & harder to find nowdays & it holds a vintage (retro) value.
Yeah, CRTs are quite disappearing in here. And they're not cheap either (by our economy).
By the way, searched it - my Phillips does 1920x1440 @120Hz native (can't read anything at that res though hehe) , while the Medion seems to support 1600x1200 at about 160Hz.

In the end though, even if not related, I might get a VCR :) There's a Grundig available, and maybe I can get it cheap. Hope these are durable. Shame that the Schneider broke down.

I'd advise you to update the GPU BIOS. It can be easily found online. I did mine years ago, easy as hell and rarely a problem.
Believe me, from someone who only ever flashed nVidia cards (yes, this was one of my flashing hobbies (beside cross MB BIOS flashing, which I am still good at ^_^ ), flashing a ATI or a 3dfx for me is like asking for trouble.

Especially since this is the only 3dfx card I ever have. It works fine anyways.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
 
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Seeing that Windows 98 really brings back memories. The sound of degaussing CRT monitor when it turn on, sound of rattling harddisk and floppy seek during bootup, Windows 98 startup sound and when you look inside the PC its filled with big fat PATA cable snaking around the innards of beige case.
 
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Yeah, CRTs are quite disappearing in here. And they're not cheap either (by our economy).
By the way, searched it - my Phillips does 1920x1440 @120Hz native (can't read anything at that res though hehe) , while the Medion seems to support 1600x1200 at about 160Hz.

In the end though, even if not related, I might get a VCR :) There's a Grundig available, and maybe I can get it cheap. Hope these are durable. Shame that the Schneider broke down.


Believe me, from someone who only ever flashed nVidia cards (yes, this was one of my flashing hobbies (beside cross MB BIOS flashing, which I am still good at ^_^ ), flashing a ATI or a 3dfx for me is like asking for trouble.

Especially since this is the only 3dfx card I ever have. It works fine anyways.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Well, I still think PII would be better investment, but with that being said I can't say I blame you... ;)


Seeing that Windows 98 really brings back memories. The sound of degaussing CRT monitor when it turn on, sound of rattling harddisk and floppy seek during bootup, Windows 98 startup sound and when you look inside the PC its filled with big fat PATA cable snaking around the innards of beige case.
"Windows 98 Starts Here!" :)
 
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Now, now... Haven't you heard the news? The size doesn't matter ;)

Speaking of old hardware, check this guy out ... now THIS is the way games are meant to be played!
 
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