NVIDIA GPUs Can be Tricked to Support AMD FreeSync

cucker tarlson · Aug 29, 2018

Well,IS freesync really working properly ? Or is it just one guy in one game screaming "it works!" ? Maybe it's the monitor osd malfunction,displaying freesync mode when it's not active. Only way is the verify that empirically, readings can be wrong.

StrayKAT · Aug 29, 2018

cucker tarlson said:
Well,IS freesync really working properly ? Or is it just one guy in one game screaming "it works!" ? Maybe it's the monitor osd malfunction,displaying freesync mode when it's not active.

Not sure how all displays work. I can easily test it just by tapping the resolution status on my TV. If Freesync is running, it'll say so.. and have a fluctuating Hz number.. i.e. quick switches between 58-59hz, for example. Kind of useful to always have this fps type of counter on tap).

cucker tarlson · Aug 29, 2018

StrayKAT said:
Not sure how all displays work. I can easily test it just by tapping the resolution status on my TV. If Freesync is running, it'll say so.. and have a fluctuating Hz number.. i.e. quick switches between 58-59hz, for example).

I've seen the monitor osd say it's in g-sync mode,and g-sync indicator displayed on the scrren, and it still wasn't working, the refresh rate conter was dead on 165 and I could see it wasn't working, when frames are out of sync with hz I see that immediately. That's why I'm very skeptical about the the certainty people just take it with that "it works".

StrayKAT · Aug 29, 2018

cucker tarlson said:
I've seen the monitor osd say it's in g-sync mode,and g-sync indicator displayed on the scrren, and it still wasn't working, the refresh rate conter was dead on 165. That's why I'm very skeptical about the the certainty people just take it with that "it works".

Fair enough.

That's happened to me, but just in one case... Bethesda (because they bake Vsync into FO4/Skyrim and it interferes.. if not outright causes strange behavior).

medi01 · Aug 29, 2018

londiste said:
Both GSync and FreeSync are doing proprietary stuff for HDMI support.

nGreedia Bullshit.

cucker tarlson said:
freesync really working

Are you at least paid for spreading anti-AMD FUD, or are you doing it for free?

Vayra86 · Aug 29, 2018

cucker tarlson said:
Well,IS freesync really working properly ? Or is it just one guy in one game screaming "it works!" ? Maybe it's the monitor osd malfunction,displaying freesync mode when it's not active. Only way is the verify that empirically, readings can be wrong.

True, it might just be fake

cyneater · Aug 29, 2018

Why can't there be an open standard that works with all monitors.
Rather than Team Red and Team Green.

PC master my ass.

More like backwards greedy companies.

cucker tarlson · Aug 29, 2018

medi01 said:
Are you at least paid for spreading anti-AMD FUD, or are you doing it for free?

the fact that the monitor's osd is displaying freesync mode does not mean freesync is working properly,get it through your skull before you end up writing another BS comment.

StrayKAT · Aug 29, 2018

cucker tarlson said:
the fact that the monitor's osd is displaying freesync mode does not mean freesync is working properly,get it through your skull before you end up writing another BS comment.

Well, I agreed with that.. although I just have one experience (Vsync interfering). I can see it happening elsewhere.. like untested foolery in this reddit article.

medi01 · Aug 29, 2018

cucker tarlson said:
...my empty skull....needmonez...

I mean, I'd expect fanboi to be able to state so. So you are a paid shill, huh. That is sad, I feel for you.

cucker tarlson · Aug 29, 2018

medi01 said:
I mean, I'd expect fanboi to be able to state so. So you are a paid shill, huh. That is sad, I feel for you.

It's not even the fact that I have any particular dislike for AMD or any of their products, I just don't want to be associated with your type.

StrayKAT said:
Well, I agreed with that.. although I just have one experience (Vsync interfering). I can see it happening elsewhere.. like untested foolery in this reddit article.

I've seen it many times. It was either windows game bar interfering, or more commonly, windows not properly recognizing the display as primary. That is why there really should be room for skepticism until this is proven to be working. Sad you can't get trolls like medi01 to understand that,only thing to they seem to get off on childish stuff. Maybe they should get back to the sandbox instead of coming here. :laugh:

Vayra86 · Aug 29, 2018

medi01 said:
I mean, I'd expect fanboi to be able to state so. So you are a paid shill, huh. That is sad, I feel for you.

cucker tarlson said:
It's not even the fact that I have any particular dislike for AMD or any of their products, I just don't want to be associated with the your type.

Get a room kiddos

medi01 · Aug 29, 2018

Vayra86 said:
Get a

Sense of appropriate comment to the right person, I get it your feelings about Huang are strong, but still.

cucker tarlson · Aug 29, 2018

medi01 said:
Sense of appropriate comment to the right person, I get it your feelings about Huang are strong, but still.

Oh,he's right about the person,don't worry about that.

Mysteoa · Aug 29, 2018

cucker tarlson said:
the fact that the monitor's osd is displaying freesync mode does not mean freesync is working properly,get it through your skull before you end up writing another BS comment.

Did you when and read the source? The person tested with the Freesync windmill demo and some games.

cucker tarlson · Aug 29, 2018

Mysteoa said:
Did you when and read the source? The person tested with the Freesync windmill demo and some games.

What source ? There's no sourcing in the OP, it only says

"When poking around with system settings in "Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth," bryf50 discovered that you can switch the "rendering GPU" on the fly, without having to physically connect your display to that newly selected GPU. ", mentions one guy and one game. I guess there is a picture of a windmill tho, so it has to be legitimate.

Vayra86 · Aug 29, 2018

Mysteoa said:
Did you when and read the source? The person tested with the Freesync windmill demo and some games.

True but that is no guarantee it will work on all other games too. Its a hack, and it may even be a temporary one..

I'd refrain from running off to the store for a cheap AMD card

cyneater said:
Why can't there be an open standard that works with all monitors.
Rather than Team Red and Team Green.

PC master my ass.

More like backwards greedy companies.

There are many of those.

And you know what they say about standards...

cucker tarlson · Aug 29, 2018

Vayra86 said:
True but that is no guarantee it will work on all other games too. Its a hack, and it may even be a temporary one..

That too,very much so.

renz496 · Aug 29, 2018

GreiverBlade said:
well, duh... of course they can.. and i am 100% sure, even without needing a AMD gpu to do the trick ... well ... unlike G-Rapsync errrr G-Sync, Freesync is royalty free open standard so Nvidia could even support it if they weren't total greedy @$$

uh? ... well ... with G-Sync you don't even need a second GPU to pay more

and here i was about to answer to that : what waste? if not used (SLI/CFX aren't technically useful lately ) PCIeX X16 slot are a waste of space... well i do have 2 X16 and 3 X1 completely free well i don't like SLI and i don't need a soundcard, PCIeX SSD are too expensive and not many daughter card use a X1 and are useful to me.

then why after a few years it is still not "hacked" by people? this work around using APU is fine proof simple software hacked will not going to let nvidia GPU suddenly capable of supporting VESA DP VRR. while it is sad that nvidia did not want to support open standard i still believe nvidia hardware was lacking something to truly support VRR the way AMD does with Freesync. anyway if you look at another perspective nvidia is not that "greedy" for not supporting VESA display port VRR spec. if they really want to crush AMD and get all the sales from AMD just support Vesa VRR and people will have one less reason to own AMD GPU.

dir_d · Aug 29, 2018

If you look around WCCF Tech tried the trick and made a video about it, and it did actually work. What this tells me is that if Nvidia wanted to they could support both. I think they should and let the consumer choose Gsync or Freesync or maybe just a ULMB monitor.

Enterprise24 · Aug 29, 2018

SetsunaFZero said:
do I see a NGreedia Hotfix driver incoming

Ahahahahahaha they will fix anything that is good for their customers but bad for their business.

Hidden method to activate dithering just got "fixed" not too long ago. I ask them and they said "That is the result of a bug in how the control panel was meant to work. I can't do anything other than accept your feedback here." The short answer is enjoy your color banding. We will not fix it.

GreiverBlade · Aug 29, 2018

renz496 said:
then why after a few years it is still not "hacked" by people? this work around using APU is fine proof simple software hacked will not going to let nvidia GPU suddenly capable of supporting VESA DP VRR.

oh .... you only did retain the part you highlighted in bold ...

the "why" in you question is answered by : "unlike G-Rapsync errrr G-Sync, Freesync is royalty free open standard so Nvidia could even support it if they weren't total greedy @$$ "
there is no "hacking" to be done it's not "they don't let poor little Nvidia use it", it's rather a "Nvidia does not support it because they want to sell more G-Sync modules"

renz496 said:
anyway if you look at another perspective nvidia is not that "greedy" for not supporting VESA display port VRR spec. if they really want to crush AMD and get all the sales from AMD just support Vesa VRR and people will have one less reason to own AMD GPU.

mmhhh ... oh so they aren't supporting it to give a chance to AMD and not utterly crush them? how nice of them

renz496 said:
i still believe nvidia hardware was lacking something to truly support VRR the way AMD does with Freesync.

mhhh ... i seriously doubt it ... they could support the VESA VRR or Freesync (which base on VRR ) without any hitch ... but they wouldnt get 200$+ per user who want it, as if a 900$ 2080 and a1500$ 2080Ti werent enough (ok ok .. previously it was a bit cheaper per card ... a 550-600$ 1070 wasn't so bad ... or so i thought ... )

Enterprise24 said:
Ahahahahahaha they will fix anything that is good for their customers but bad for their business..

i look forward to the "latest" driver release that will gimp my 1070 performance in an attempt to convince me that i need to upgrade to a 2070 or above.... to get a Vega 64 instead ...

Enterprise24 said:
Hidden method to activate dithering just got "fixed" not too long ago. I ask them and they said "That is the result of a bug in how the control panel was meant to work. I can't do anything other than accept your feedback here." The short answer is enjoy your color banding. We will not fix it.

which explain why i usually run my card with a 6 month old driver ... the "latest" are usually "fixing" thing that does not need to be fixed or bring some instability ... talk about driver superiority :laugh:

Slizzo · Aug 29, 2018

cyneater said:
Why can't there be an open standard that works with all monitors.
Rather than Team Red and Team Green.

PC master my ass.

More like backwards greedy companies.

There is an open standard, it's just that no one uses it: VESA Adaptive Sync.

GreiverBlade · Aug 29, 2018

Slizzo said:
There is an open standard, it's just that no one uses it: VESA Adaptive Sync.

while freesync is also one ... just like VESA VRR (adaptive sync) who serve as a base ...

krykry · Aug 29, 2018

cyneater said:
Why can't there be an open standard that works with all monitors.
Rather than Team Red and Team Green.

PC master my ass.

More like backwards greedy companies.

Actually freesync is an open standard (I think), if Nvidia wanted, they could implement it, but for reasons obvious they would never do something that doesn't benefit them.

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